The ones who can disappear, are..not so well known though.
Meghan and Harry attempting to get total privacy from the press..wouldn't even work if they moved to a deserted island. The drones would be following them snapping pics :laugh:

:laugh: Why is it so hard for people to understand that :skull:

...but you weren’t familiar with her pregnancy pic and that it’s something that people can commonly do now, have that type of more personal pose...and you maybe thought that be an ‘extremely theatrical Meghan, type thing’ if you hadn’t seen anything similar before...but it’s actually just a commonplace thing that would probably not been thought anything of, had it not been Meghan and Harry and how they announced it...

They could easily, they were in Canada for six weeks and the press didn't touch them and no one was any the wiser, this was before it all blew up and they said they were leaving

Yes that was before the media jumped on the bandwagon to bully them and now it's really impossible for them to have the privacy they want. It's not really that hard to understand tbh.

nothing says "we want privacy" more than a 90 minute cringe-fest with the queen of mawkish narcissism Oprah

:laugh:

sorry babe xx

and the prize for the most tenous rebuttal goes to????

what is that meant to prove? Harry and Megs are not friends with Donnie :laugh:

well no because they lost press protection and the Palace is letting them fend for themselves, you reap what you sow and all that

If they had gone about leaving in the right way in the first place instead of throwing toys out of prams it might all have been very different.

...this is kind of admitting that whatever they do, they cannot avoid press though?

Not sure its a good move as when Michael Jackson did his interview with Oprah ,people still believed all the gossip about him ,it didn't matter what HE said I think it just depends on the person on whether you like them or not to start with .Personally ,I don't really care what they do, but have to admit i find it strange they want to do this.:wavey:

as Piers wrote:

"BREAKING: Harry & Meghan have announced they’re pregnant and released this cheesy photo of themselves to ensure the media gives the story about their private life more prominence - in their latest courageous effort to stop the same media focusing on their private life."

checkmate

I wasn't calling you shallow, and I definitely had no intention of calling you a racist. I was saying that judging them (or me, or you, or anyone) on the basis of one interview is shallow, and I think that would be a pretty hard thing to argue against.


So to recap, the reasons you don't like them are

Bad interview
Instagram announcement
Showed concern for the environment but still fly themselves
Moved during lockdown
Myriad of unspecified other hypocritical acts
Other royals

I'm not trying to change your mind on them, you're an adult with enough upstairs to make your own decisions. I didn't reply to you, you decided to reply to me by inferring all these things about the intent of my post, when all I really said was if the forum is that invested in these 2, shouldn't the chance to see them in their own words be more useful than pretending some on here have an inside track to their innermost thoughts and desires (again, not you, but generally).

I'm just baffled if I'm honest, and my view is that most of the people arguing in these threads aren't arguing over evidence or facts, it's just become a way for a watered down tibb (compared to the old days), where people that don't really like each other have an excuse and a platform for an argument. Just talking in general terms here, and not about you or any other individual. I don't think they were always like this, i think that's just how the debate (I use that word extremely lightly) has evolved.

These threads are weird entertainment to me.

Personally, I think they're judged really harshly, and there are some definite racial undertones to the campaign against them. Not necessarily on here, but in the media, where most of the opinions on them are derived from, and the Meghan/Kate comparisons in the daily mail make this so blatantly obvious, that I'd actually like to see someone argue against that fact.

I'm not surprised at people taking hypocrite Piers Morgan who is obsessed and an awful bully as gospel

Megan continues to live in Piers' mind rent free. He's so obsessed with her, it's pathetic.

And he has the cheek to call Meghan an hypocrite when he went abroad during christmas and he slated people for breaking rules.

He's a repugnant hypocritical beast through and through.

He will not stop.

Michael Jackson was accused of being a paedophile though........bit of a difference there

Meghan being compared to someone accused of being a peadophile.... And people wonder why the couple don't want anything to do with the UK.

Believe me I am not basing it on the pregnancy picture. Its the way she presents herself in interviews and these podcasts and the Documentry...I read the full context of her fathers letter...the way she told the world about her miscarriage...everything she does comes across as something out of a Barbra Cartland novel...its theatrical and dramatic just like the photo :laugh:

He was also found not guilty, all I am saying is what you touched on, people will just believe what they want depending on who they like and don't like.

No one compared her ,can you read ? pfft

I just can't at judging someone as being 'theatrical' for coming telling people they've suffered a miscarriage....