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Ammi 11-06-2021 06:21 AM

…I’m perfectly fine with it, I’m not extreme left or extreme anything and any way that I might vote politically for my reasons…have no bearing on that I’m fine with it…

AnnieK 11-06-2021 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 11057137)
…I’m perfectly fine with it, I’m not extreme left or extreme anything and any way that I might vote politically for my reasons…have no bearing on that I’m fine with it…

This for me too

Liam- 11-06-2021 08:15 AM

If being ‘extreme left’ means that I’m fine with people protesting against racism and trying to make actual changes to help fight discrimination, then count me the **** in

arista 11-06-2021 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 11057137)
…I’m perfectly fine with it, I’m not extreme left or extreme anything and any way that I might vote politically for my reasons…have no bearing on that I’m fine with it…


So what.


This is the Wrong Politics
on a Live UK Football Match



It will be Boooo'd every time.

arista 11-06-2021 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 11057157)
If being ‘extreme left’ means that I’m fine with people protesting against racism and trying to make actual changes to help fight discrimination, then count me the **** in


No you are Forcing USA BLM
on a UK Match.

Ammi 11-06-2021 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11057174)
So what.


This is the Wrong Politics
on a Live UK Football Match



It will be Boooo'd every time.

…it’s not politics for those taking the knee, it’s a simple gesture of unity and like mindedness against racism and in support of equality…why should those who are practising it and know it’s meaning for them, take on the politics of others because they’re seeing their own meaning and placing political on it…

…society is only where it is through persistence and determination over things like booing ../…resistance to change or progression….

Niamh. 11-06-2021 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 11057228)
…it’s not politics for those taking the knee, it’s a simple gesture of unity and like mindedness against racism and in support of equality…why should those who are practising it and know it’s meaning for them, take on the politics of others because they’re seeing their own meaning and placing political on it…

…society is only where it is through persistence and determination over things like booing ../…resistance to change or progression….

I agree with this, there is and has always been a problem with racism in football/soccer and I think it's a nice gesture of solidarity among the players. I don't think any player should be forced into doing it but I don't see a problem with those who want to do it, to continue doing it? I don't see how it warrants boos either

joeysteele 11-06-2021 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 11057228)
…it’s not politics for those taking the knee, it’s a simple gesture of unity and like mindedness against racism and in support of equality…why should those who are practising it and know it’s meaning for them, take on the politics of others because they’re seeing their own meaning and placing political on it…

…society is only where it is through persistence and determination over things like booing ../…resistance to change or progression….

I totally agree.

I support the players doing so myself too.
There clearly us from the booing, still elements of racism that perhaps needs to be stamped out of sport.

arista 11-06-2021 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 11057228)
it’s not politics for those taking the knee, it’s a simple gesture of unity and like mindedness against racism and in support of equality…why should those who are practising it and know it’s meaning for them, take on the politics of others because they’re seeing their own meaning and placing political on it…

…society is only where it is through persistence and determination over things like booing ../…resistance to change or progression….


That does not matter
The Fact they are Doing the USA BLM Political Move
Upsets the UK Fans
can you not understand that???????????????

Ammi 11-06-2021 12:59 PM

…why the lots of question marks, Arista…15 of them, I think…to express your disapproval that I don’t agree with you…yes, I do understand that others are trying to place some type of political meaning on it that isn’t there for those who are expressing it as a simple united gesture ….against racism and supporting equality…

… Wilfried Zaha doesn’t wish to take the knee so instead he ‘stands tall’…it still equates to the same gesture of being united against inequality…booing is booing equality, it’s not booing a gesture…I completely understand…

Liam- 11-06-2021 01:28 PM

No offence, but English football fans have shown over the years that they might be in dire need of a lecture or two on equality and racial sensitivity

Nicky91 11-06-2021 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 11057280)
No offence, but English football fans have shown over the years that they might be in dire need of a lecture or two on equality and racial sensitivity

+ i don't think UEFA wouldn't mind this at all, given their own #SayNoToRacism motto

arista 11-06-2021 01:54 PM

"yes, I do understand that others are trying to place some type of political meaning on it"


BLM USA Politics have no place
at the match

Crimson Dynamo 11-06-2021 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11057293)
"yes, I do understand that others are trying to place some type of political meaning on it"


BLM USA Politics have no place
at the match

bang on right Arista and hopefully the cacophony of boos at each match will ram the point home

get up off your knees

Ammi 11-06-2021 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11057293)
"yes, I do understand that others are trying to place some type of political meaning on it"


BLM USA Politics have no place
at the match

…and they’re not at the match unless you yourself are personally placing those politics at the match in your own mindset in a way to dismiss a simple equality support/anti racism gesture because enough is enough with this darn equality, let’s limit and restrict it, please…supporting a gesture is not supporting a movement and any and all politics attached or unattached to it…the players understand this and the federation understands this and apparently the government understand this as well as they’ve nodded their support of the gesture today and I would hope that most of the fans support it….so you can repeat to me, Arista…but it won’t change that taking the knee is not political….it’s an equality gesture and those who boo it are booing what it stands for…they’re booing equality and anti racism….

Swan 11-06-2021 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 11057280)
No offence, but English football fans have shown over the years that they might be in dire need of a lecture or two on equality and racial sensitivity

Honestly the majority of fans aren't racist at all, and couldn't care less if the players take a knee (we included). We just wanna support our team and hope they do well.

arista 11-06-2021 02:33 PM

No they are Booo ing the USA BLM Politics

arista 11-06-2021 04:41 PM

Scottish Teams have said they will Stand.

Thats better

bots 11-06-2021 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11057389)
Scottish Teams have said they will Stand.

Thats better

they are going to kneel at wembley

Cherie 11-06-2021 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11057389)
Scottish Teams have said they will Stand.

Thats better

yes

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soc...ches-1.4589735

they will take the knee when they play the England game in solidarity

I think taking the knee is too mixed up with other issues, and it comes from America. they should come up with their own gesture which might have more impact tbh

Crimson Dynamo 11-06-2021 05:16 PM

Just get on with the game and leave the silly VS to social media

arista 11-06-2021 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11057407)
they are going to kneel at wembley


Will they Get to Wembley?

bots 11-06-2021 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11057418)
Will they Get to Wembley?



Scotland play England at Wembley next week :laugh:

Cherie 11-06-2021 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11057418)
Will they Get to Wembley?

They are in the same group... :hee:

arista 11-06-2021 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11057421)
Scotland play England at Wembley next week :laugh:


OK


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