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Tom4784 29-09-2021 01:25 PM

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GoldHeart 29-09-2021 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 11098873)
I'd like to know how his victims feel about this.
Presumably and hopefully they'll have been properly consulted on this.

That's if anyone bothered to have enough empathy to actually consult them . More often than not when producers want to make a drama about real life trauma they care very little about the families or victim's involved.

When that disrespectful movie about Sharon Tate's murder was made , the director/ people involved never gave a crap about how upsetting it was for the sister . it wasn't handled sensitively at all.


So I'm not sure this Savile drama is a good idea, but we'll see .

Cherie 29-09-2021 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11099369)
https://www.independent.ie/entertain...-40889964.html

Alan Partridge star Coogan said: “To play Jimmy Savile was not a decision I took lightly.

“Neil McKay has written an intelligent script tackling sensitively a horrific story which, however harrowing, needs to be told.”

The makers of the programme were “working closely with many people whose lives were impacted by Savile to ensure their stories are told with sensitivity and respect”, the BBC said in a statement.

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Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 11099530)
That's if anyone bothered to have enough empathy to actually consult them . More often than not when producers want to make a drama about real life trauma they care very little about the families or victim's involved.

When that disrespectful movie about Sharon Tate's murder was made , the director/ people involved never gave a crap about how upsetting it was for the sister . it wasn't handled sensitively at all.


So I'm not sure this Savile drama is a good idea, but we'll see .

.

user104658 29-09-2021 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 11099286)
Everything about this is tasteless. This abuse shouldn't be dramatised and it shouldn't be done by the very company that tried to cover it up, no doubt that they'll come off in the drama smelling of roses...

There's that as well which I hadn't even thought of. I find this abhorrent in general but it being made by the BBC is just on another level really isn't it. They knew what he was.

Niamh. 29-09-2021 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 11099518)
Those dramas weren't handled by the people who enabled those murderers though. I don't think enough time has passed since the news broke about this story, I think the BBC will lessen their own faults in this story, and I won't trust them not to turn this into a Bafta-baiting character piece for Steve Coogan.

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 11099562)
There's that as well which I hadn't even thought of. I find this abhorrent in general but it being made by the BBC is just on another level really isn't it. They knew what he was.

Yeah that's true, they're not going to hang themselves out to dry, are they?

user104658 29-09-2021 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11099303)
but a drama about say 9/11 is ok?

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 11099337)
This seems like a "See Steve Coogan play Saville" type drama, that's going to hell HIS story from HIS perspective.

This for me as well basically. I personally think we could do without full dramatisations of things like 9/11 as well but, at the very least, I don't imagine that there are any that are character dramas about the hijackers themselves and that's the difference.

Again, I personally feel if something like this is being done, it's one thing to have an in-depth documentary series with dramatised/acted out sections (as is quite common in documentaries these days) but turning it into a full drama series is something quite different.

So no... I honestly don't think they're necessary. That goes for other similar series' that have been made in the past. The dramatisation of the Shannon Matthews story was ****ing gross too, made by the BBC, and I imagine this will be along the same lines.

user104658 29-09-2021 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 11099563)
Yeah that's true, they're not going to hang themselves out to dry, are they?

If BBC staff are featured in it finding out about his crimes, be prepared for lots of " :omg: D: :omg: ", instead of the more accurate "Oh jeez this is all coming out is it". He clearly had power and influence, and what he was up to was quite clearly an open secret.

Niamh. 29-09-2021 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 11099569)
If BBC staff are featured in it finding out about his crimes, be prepared for lots of " :omg: D: :omg: ", instead of the more accurate "Oh jeez this is all coming out is it". He clearly had power and influence, and what he was up to was quite clearly an open secret.

Did John Lyndon get banned from the BBC for trying to speak out against Jimmy Saville in the 70's?

Cherie 29-09-2021 03:50 PM

I can’t imagine there are many people left at the Beeb who worked with Saville? And they didn’t write the script

bots 29-09-2021 03:53 PM

the more i think about this, the worse it gets. The BBC will be selling this drama world wide as they always do. So they are in effect profiting from a predator that they enabled for decades

Cherie 29-09-2021 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11099572)
I can’t imagine there are many people left at the Beeb who worked with Saville? And they didn’t write the script

Neil McKay

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0571032/

He wrote The Moors murders and Appropriate adult (Fred West

joeysteele 29-09-2021 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11099576)
the more i think about this, the worse it gets. The BBC will be selling this drama world wide as they always do. So they are in effect profiting from a predator that they enabled for decades

Well yes, there's another sickening aspect to it.

GoldHeart 29-09-2021 04:07 PM

Also wasn't it enough that the Discovery channel released a documentary about Saville ?. Why do we need a full drama aswell let alone by the BBC of all broadcasting channels .

Crimson Dynamo 29-09-2021 04:15 PM

The BBC and all such TV broadcast platforms make most of their money from murder. Rarely will a hit drama not be about it. Line of Duty etc.

Why?

Because we love to watch them. David Tennant just got a lot of plaudits from his Dennis Nilson one and Martin Clunes starred in one about that taxi driver who hammered girls to death

GoldHeart 29-09-2021 04:24 PM

It's still fresh in people's heads , it adds another level of raw insensitivity to the whole thing aswell . As mentioned it's been what only 10 years ? since it was revealed what a disturbed creep Savile really was .

Maybe they should have waited longer , and then made sure the victims and people involved were ok with it ? . But as i said is it even necessary to make a drama .

rusticgal 29-09-2021 04:33 PM

However distasteful it might be....people will watch it. Just like we watch dramas about serial killers...where often children are involved.

Livia 29-09-2021 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 11099518)
Those dramas weren't handled by the people who enabled those murderers though. I don't think enough time has passed since the news broke about this story, I think the BBC will lessen their own faults in this story, and I won't trust them not to turn this into a Bafta-baiting character piece for Steve Coogan.

That is a very good point. Personally I think enough time has passed if it was handled sensitively... but not by the BBC.

Zizu 29-09-2021 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 11099571)
Did John Lyndon get banned from the BBC for trying to speak out against Jimmy Saville in the 70's?


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Zizu 29-09-2021 05:38 PM

Steve Coogan to play Jimmy Savile in BBC drama
 
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Vanessa 29-09-2021 05:41 PM

I'm sure he will be great. He's an excellent actor.

Marsh. 29-09-2021 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11099591)
The BBC and all such TV broadcast platforms make most of their money from murder. Rarely will a hit drama not be about it. Line of Duty etc.

Why?

Because we love to watch them. David Tennant just got a lot of plaudits from his Dennis Nilson one and Martin Clunes starred in one about that taxi driver who hammered girls to death

The BBC make dramas about the murders of fictional people in Line of Duty so that makes dramatisations of the real life abuse of real children ok?

Reach of the day.

Gusto Brunt 01-10-2021 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11099576)
the more i think about this, the worse it gets. The BBC will be selling this drama world wide as they always do. So they are in effect profiting from a predator that they enabled for decades

It's sickening.

Crimson Dynamo 11-10-2021 02:38 PM

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arista 29-11-2021 02:45 PM

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...my-Savile.html

arista 03-04-2022 12:22 PM

He Spoke Live
about Playing Jimmy Saville
on Sunday Brunch Ch4HD Live

Out later this year on, BBC1HD


He said it was Professionally played
and Jimmy Saville victims
came along to the shoot

they were in consultation with the BBC Producer
Jeff Pope.



At this time,
The British Horror of Saville Documentary
is on Netflix


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