I totally called it not long after they started the "flashback scenes" firstly that the helper was "001" (that seemed obvious early on) and then also that he was Vecna (and from that, that it was him who killed all the other kids & Vecna was created by Eleven going nuclear and punting him into the upside down). I didn't guess about him being the son from the house. Awesome scenes though - full-strength El is clearly much more powerful than 001/Vecna so I guess we can assume she's going to return to Hawkins powered up and ruin his day.

Also, poor Nancy... I don't think they're going to kill her off... and I have a horrible suspicion about what will bring her back. They've made a big deal about the favourite songs and the "emotional resonance" leading the person back. But there's no access to music for her. But ... Steve is stood with her. I have a strong suspicion that they're going to go full-cheese and it'll be Hairy Steve telling Nancy that he still loves her and wants to be with her that "reaches her" and leads her back. Ew :joker:. Poor Jonathan!

wow Lord Vecna really being so powerful, how he simply crushed Chrissy and Fred like that, why don't Eleven's powers work, her powers need to work though, she is a crucial pawn to open the portal to the upside down for my lord vecna to walk into our world amazing quality kills there i am proud of my master

Why does Henry/001 have powers? Where did he get them from, we know Eleven was given drugs while in her mothers womb but was it just that he got them naturally and Brenner just tried to copy his then or what? and how did Brenner know he had powers to take him in to study?

We guessed that Henry was No.1 early on, pretty much as soon as No.1 was mentioned, never guessed he was Victor's son though or that he was Vecna (not until right before it was revealed anyway). I never believed that Eleven killed all the other children but didn't know what happened up until that episode either.

"Hairy Steve" :laugh: I like Steve, him and Dustin have been my favourites this season but i hate that they're bringing back the him and Nancy love story. They made such a big thing about how her and Johnathon were so into each other and she dumps Steve only for them to get back together again the minute Johnathon is gone for 5 minutes bleh

i wasn't sure if henry was an alien or not, i think thats yet to be explained. The plot obviously has some place yet to go with another series on the way

What made you think that?

I think the implication was that no one knew these abilities existed, Henry for whatever reason had them - there was some weirdness about the nest of black widows? Not sure what that's about or if even related. But basically I think it's just that 001's powers existed, he ends up being studied by Brenner who seeks to understand, enhance and duplicate those abilities in the other kids, and it works better in some than others, maybe some already have the "potential" to have those abilities and he just wakes them up rather than creating them... and 11 had the most potential of any of them (more "raw power" than Henry even).

As for how Brenner got hold of him... I think they said that Victor Creel contacted Brenner (or I guess, "the government")? I might be misremembering that. Either way, it's implied that Brenner/the government people at Hawkins Lab always knew that Victor Creel hadn't killed his family and that other things (stranger ones :hehe: ) were at play.