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arista 10-07-2022 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11188351)
There is no constitutional method to remove a prime minister, no-one in the country has that power and labour know it very well. All they have is a vote of no confidence in the government, not specifically the PM

Very True

Zizu 10-07-2022 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11186825)
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-b2116510.html


He does not want Johnson staying as a Care Taker


Hardly surprising

:)


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joeysteele 10-07-2022 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11188351)
there is no constitutional method to remove a prime minister, no-one in the country has that power and labour know it very well. All they have is a vote of no confidence in the government, not specifically the PM

I think you'll find it could be possible the 1922 committee could find the way to ensure this disgraced PM goes near immediately.

This is what Labour is really pushing for from the newly elected 1922 committee to be elected tomorrow.
I think you'll find they CAN find the way IF they really want to.

They can and do have the greatest influence.
There are Conservative MPs who will be demanding him gone sooner rather than later.

If the 1922 committee don't alter by not holding a members vote for the new leader.
They'll need to look at all and other possible option.

arista 10-07-2022 01:58 PM

"you'll find it could be possible the 1922 committee could find the way to ensure this disgraced PM goes near immediately."


Joey that would be great

Raab the Deputy is not in the Race
and could move right in.

joeysteele 10-07-2022 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11188369)
"you'll find it could be possible the 1922 committee could find the way to ensure this disgraced PM goes near immediately."


Joey that would be great

Raab the Deputy is not in the Race
and could move right in.


Yes, I agree.
That's what Labour is hoping to pressure the committee to set out to do.

Raab as Deputy PM is already in place to act in the caretaking role.
It should have been explored on the day all was changing.

bots 10-07-2022 02:22 PM

the tories could just resign from Boris's cabinet again on mass, so that's one option, but i cant imagine a situation where they would give the power to a committee to decide who could and couldnt run the country

Zizu 10-07-2022 03:21 PM

Keir Starmer Backs Snap General Election
 
I didn’t think this is a unique situation ..

Isn’t it normal for the PM to stay in situ for about 3 months after resignation to give the party time to choose a replacement ?


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joeysteele 10-07-2022 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11188376)
the tories could just resign from Boris's cabinet again on mass, so that's one option, but i cant imagine a situation where they would give the power to a committee to decide who could and couldnt run the country

He's only a puppet PM now bots.
It's ludicrous he's left in place.

It's a powerful committee which acts on the will of the backbenchers.

It's even more ludicrous to have current, possibly even temporary Cabinet Ministers.
Now running to be leader and some setting out to tear up the policies of Johnson now.
It seems farcical and ridiculous.

This is NOT a normal dismissing of a leader.
It's that this leader Johnson has thrown out endless deceit and lies to parliament, his Ministers, his MPs and even worse to the whole of the UK.

He should have been gone over this weekend if the Cons hoped to get some decency and credibility back.

This is no way a normal end to a PM's premiership due to his absolutely disgraceful behaviour.

Zizu 10-07-2022 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 11188380)
He's only a puppet PM now bots.
It's ludicrous he's left in place.

It's a powerful committee which acts on the will of the backbenchers.

It's even more ludicrous to have current, possibly even temporary Cabinet Ministers.
Now running to be leader and some setting out to year up the policies of Johnson now.
It seems farcical and ridiculous.

This is NOT a normal dismissing of a leader.
It's that this leader Johnson has thrown out endless deceit and lies to parliament, his Ministers, his MPs and even worse to the whole of the UK.

He should have been gone over this weekend if the Cons hoped to get some decency and credibility back.

This is no way a normal end to a PM's premiership due to his absolutely disgraceful behaviour.


What has he actually done that is so disgraceful , specifically ?


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joeysteele 10-07-2022 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11188381)
What has he actually done that is so disgraceful , specifically ?


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With full respect if you can't see that.
It's pointless me explaining it.
I'll try a bit though.

His Cabinet resigned because of him sending them out to the media after deceiving them.
He's broken his own laws he dictated to and inflicted on the whole Country.
Just 2 for starters.

His backbenchers were demanding a new vote of no confidence in him.
Which was clearly going to be a massive negative to him.

The facts now really speak for themselves to I'd say most people actually.

Zizu 10-07-2022 04:38 PM

Keir Starmer Backs Snap General Election
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 11188383)
With full respect if you can't see that.
It's pointless me explaining it.
I'll try a bit though.

His Cabinet resigned because of him sending them out to the media after deceiving them.
He's broken his own laws he dictated to and inflicted on the whole Country.
Just 2 for starters.

His backbenchers were demanding a new vote of no confidence in him.
Which was clearly going to be a massive negative to him.

The facts now really speak for themselves to I'd say most people actually.


As I understand things , most of his detractors were remainers ... the rest presumably just followed to save face and save their own skins - not wanting to be seen to be loyal to Boris ...

Then when they were asked afterwards who they would like to be PM not a single one of them had the courage to put a name forward as they were all keeping their cards close to their chests ( self preservation) ..

So what specifically do you find so abhorrent about Boris .. that wouldn’t apply to just about every politician you care to name ....

I saw a photo of Boris having a sandwich in a huge garden but there’s a video of Starmer knocking back a beer in a tiny room full of people ..


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hijaxers 10-07-2022 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 11188383)
With full respect if you can't see that.
It's pointless me explaining it.
I'll try a bit though.

His Cabinet resigned because of him sending them out to the media after deceiving them.
He's broken his own laws he dictated to and inflicted on the whole Country.
Just 2 for starters.

His backbenchers were demanding a new vote of no confidence in him.
Which was clearly going to be a massive negative to him.

The facts now really speak for themselves to I'd say most people actually.

Bunch of out for themselves back stabbers. So Tory

joeysteele 10-07-2022 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11188392)
As I understand things , most of his detractors were remainers ... the rest presumably just followed to save face and save their own skins - not wanting to be seen to be loyal to Boris ...

Then when they were asked afterwards who they would like to be PM not a single one of them had the courage to put a name forward as they were all keeping their cards close to their chests ( self preservation) ..

So what specifically do you find so abhorrent about Boris .. that wouldn’t apply to just about every politician you care to name ....

I saw a photo of Boris having a sandwich in a huge garden but there’s a video of Starmer knocking back a beer in a tiny room full of people ..


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I don't know of a single PM who.while in office has been found to have broken the law.
His own law too.

Johnson relaxed the covid rules in April/May 2021 in order to allow campaigning work in the Council, mayoral and Hartlepool by election/s too.
Johnson broke his laws in 2020 during the intense and rigid rules HE laid down for everyone in the Country.
He's a serial political deceiver, liar and a lawbreaker too.

If I was to list all the things I consider bad about Johnson.
I'd be making my.longest ever post on tibb.
So I'll pass on that.

I appreciate you like and support him.
I'll never understand why, just as it seems you don't understand those who don't like or don't support him.

I've NEVER liked him and wouldn't ever have trusted him with power.
My hand is up that I'm biased against him.
I think for his deceit and lies and lawbreaking, for me he is the worst ever PM the UK has had.

However I appreciate of course you see him differently and that of course is fine for you.

bots 10-07-2022 05:56 PM

Everyone knew exactly what they were getting with Boris, but they still voted him leader and then huge swathes of brexit supporters gave him a massive majority. All this crap about Javid and Sunak seeing the light is nonsense :laugh:

The thing is, Boris wont go quietly into the night. He will interfere as much as he can and he never actually said he was resigning, so I don't think this is over yet at all

joeysteele 10-07-2022 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11188415)
Everyone knew exactly what they were getting with Boris, but they still voted him leader and then huge swathes of brexit supporters gave him a massive majority. All this crap about Javid and Sunak seeing the light is nonsense :laugh:

The thing is, Boris wont go quietly into the night. He will interfere as much as he can and he never actually said he was resigning, so I don't think this is over yet at all

I fear you could be worryingly right here.
Which is why it should have been he was ...'made in sorts'... to go right away.

You have raised a possible strong point there.

Zizu 10-07-2022 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 11188414)
I don't know of a single PM who.while in office has been found to have broken the law.
His own law too.

Johnson relaxed the covid rules in April/May 2021 in order to allow campaigning work in the Council, mayoral and Hartlepool by election/s too.
Johnson broke his laws in 2020 during the intense and rigid rules HE laid down for everyone in the Country.
He's a serial political deceiver, liar and a lawbreaker too.

If I was to list all the things I consider bad about Johnson.
I'd be making my.longest ever post on tibb.
So I'll pass on that.

I appreciate you like and support him.
I'll never understand why, just as it seems you don't understand those who don't like or don't support him.

I've NEVER liked him and wouldn't ever have trusted him with power.
My hand is up that I'm biased against him.
I think for his deceit and lies and lawbreaking, for me he is the worst ever PM the UK has had.

However I appreciate of course you see him differently and that of course is fine for you.


No worries ..

I certainly wouldn’t want to fall out over a bladdy politician !!

:)


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Zizu 10-07-2022 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11188415)
Everyone knew exactly what they were getting with Boris, but they still voted him leader and then huge swathes of brexit supporters gave him a massive majority. All this crap about Javid and Sunak seeing the light is nonsense :laugh:

The thing is, Boris wont go quietly into the night. He will interfere as much as he can and he never actually said he was resigning, so I don't think this is over yet at all


A tiny part of me wonders what WOULD happen if hundreds of thousands of Boris supporters actually did go down to London on masse to protest at the way he’s been ousted .. there has been talk about this .


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Liam- 10-07-2022 07:44 PM

I mean, if those people want to make fools of themselves by protesting the ‘ousting’ of a man who knowingly promoted an admitted sex pest through the ranks of the party, then let them knock themselves out if that’s the hill they want to die on

Zizu 10-07-2022 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 11188440)
I mean, if those people want to make fools of themselves by protesting the ‘ousting’ of a man who knowingly promoted an admitted sex pest through the ranks of the party, then let them knock themselves out if that’s the hill they want to die on


They interviewed a group of them the other night on Sky - they all looked well over 50 and were delighted that Boris delivered Brexit and feel that there voice / vote / opinion is being discounted

One guy actually said something like .. “ 13 million of us voted for Boris .. how dare they just force him out of office ! “


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arista 11-07-2022 09:44 AM

Starmer is Now Live SkyNewsHD



Gateshead

arista 11-07-2022 10:02 AM

Live taking Starmer Questions


BBC attacking him
first question


Liz Bates SkyNewsHD asks him about Rishi
should they ban him as he was fined etc.

Starmer says yes

arista 11-07-2022 10:12 AM

Starmer has a Point
as Conservative Tom would not say
how he will fund the Tax Cuts.


He has Finished
once again loads of Press missing.

Starmer looks on his list
says "Liz Bates"

Liz says I spoke to you


Starmer then said, sorry
and left.


Only on SkyNewsHD

GBNewsHD showed half of it

Zizu 11-07-2022 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11188590)
Starmer has a Point
as Conservative Tom would not say
how he will fund the Tax Cuts.


He has Finished
once again loads of Press missing.

Starmer looks on his list
says "Liz Bates"

Liz says I spoke to you


Starmer then said, sorry
and left.


Only on SkyNewsHD

GBNewsHD showed half of it


Is he losing his grip already ?

:)


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arista 11-07-2022 11:26 AM

Labour MP Live was on the Green


Smiling
She said call a General Election


Rachel Reeves MP




BBCnewsHD

arista 11-07-2022 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11188602)
Is he losing his grip already ?

:)



No, but he needs his Manager
to check what press are Present,


Just before he starts



2nd Time Starmer calling names
of Papers and TV Professionals

NOT THERE,



Liz Bates said School children
took the empty seats


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