I think GoldHeart's point (and I agree with her) is that 16 year olds aren't mature enough to fully understand the risks and benefits, regardless of what the UK law says.

Exactly
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And whether people want to admit it or not ,there is little kids out there being called "Transgender", because it's being forced / pushed on them . Like I said 16 isn't as bad as 5 ,but a 16 year old might still change their mind &..... not actually want to go through the medically procedure of transitioning.

We seem to have drifted away from the point - that too much legal and social recognition of trans identities erodes women's rights. Whether or not kids should take pointless medications is a different discussion.

I don’t believe 16 is the age of consent medically as patients are still classed as a child and put in a children’s ward up to age 18

That is definitely a tricky debate because whilst I agree with you that women's rights need to be upheld, we also can't infringe upon Trans rights either.

Tbh I really don't have the answers to solve that particular issue, but tbh I doubt that our Politicians necessarily do either.

And to Liam, I do apologize btw, I shouldn't have been calling you "self-righteous" and in general getting too worked up over this discussion.

Transpeople and women should both have the same rights to single sex spaces, which would mean transwomen going with the other males :shrug: half the population are women, while like half of a percentage of people are transwomen ... Who should be given priority?

The issue isn't Trans women sharing women's spaces, I'm Pretty sure a few of us women have already shared public bathrooms etc with them . The issue is disgusting predators taking advantage of this, the average trans woman or even trans man will most likely be in & out a space without you even noticing .

I doubt they'd want to draw attention to themselves,as they're just getting on with things.

But the problem is any idiot these days can put on an outfit & a wig and claim they're "trans". And we're meant to just say "ok that's great" .

This has been proven time and time again that these weirdos will hide behind the trans card ....to take advantage of the system. We're seeing it in prisons aswell, when sickos are being put in women's prisons and getting them pregnant!.

Some of these so called "trans women" aren't even registered as female and they've made very little effort to transition , they've literally just decided that's what they want to be identified as. There's no proper assessment or concerns for the safety of other women.

Great post Goldie, Primark backtracking over communal changing rooms for all just shows how quickly the idea of getting into a changing room with women purely to harass them took off, yet we were told that would never happen TERF