Now you're just trolling or being age ist for the sake of it.

Ageism is no better than homophobia. You know that, right?

He's a 'protected class' ...... so he thinks it's ok to dump on others.

Yet nobody bats an eyelid when people continuously demean young people

I bat an eyelid but at the same time I respect increasing age and increasing experience, whether I give off a pompous know-it-all air or I don’t.

Here we go with the tit for tat bs .

It's hilarious when plenty including myself are supportive towards lowering the voting age to 16 , yet some people think older people 'shouldn't vote' hmmm.... that's not very progressive is it ? :whistle:.

Todays youngsters are very immature.. they’d be better off increasing the age to 21


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The governing bodies are completely out of touch with reality .. unless they feel that the younger ones will be easier to fool ..


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Imagine believing labour under Starmer will do anything they say they will. Keir has never met a promise he hasn't reneged on.

i'm quite hopeful on that front, he has said brexit means brexit, which should mean we go back into the EU customs union :laugh:

The exception I missed out, was that any right wing pledges he makes, you can absolutely take to the bank. It's only issues that could be considered progressive that he has no interest in.

Without any pledge to undertake a massive house building project, you can file this under "imagine believing labour"

Sure Slim
that comes at the next Election
next year.

The pledge comes before the next election or after it?

Just before The Next General Election.

Keirsta Starmarista?

I still agree wholeheartedly with the reduction of the voting age to 16.

As I said before, teenagers I've talked to, talk far more sense about the Country and politics than some of those very much older.

I just wish Starmer, since he's open to it, something else he's open to but doesn't want to commit to yet.
Is to adopt PR for elections..
He'd ensure a likely landslide if he did.

Many 16 year olds are content to be messing around in class and throwing paper aeroplanes around when they should be revising for GCSE exams in a few weeks


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His team came out a few days ago and said he's never been in favour of PR, despite, y'know, previously being in favour of it.

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices...-b2329451.html

Why does anyone trust a thing out of this mans mouth?

And many adults are content to be pissing around on benefits when they "should be" working (apparently) so should they be denied a vote as well?

I have on good authority that he is open to PR but NOT at this time.
That makes little sense to me admittedky.
His last statement on it when asked was, it's not a right policy for this coming election.

I think and hope, that PR along with other things he KNOWS full well are popular.
If he wins this time, that they'll BE policy for the election after.

He will be in massive difficulty if he fails to adopt them.
That's for sure.

I've seen and heard loads of utter more tripe and nonsense from people much older too.
I think the young often have a better idea of how things should be.

They couldn't make a worse mess than the current older generation have.
Look at the state of the Country.
Look at the chaotic mess there is

He's pissed away his tory incompetence lead, so we both know PR is never going to raise it's head. I don't know why you keep putting yourself through this, Joey. I understand the need to vote for him to get tories out, but i don't understand the need to keep pretending he's something he isn't.