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Vanessa 23-08-2023 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Redway (Post 11321601)
Mhm-hm. Definitely the best it’s been since at least 2014 (2010 was the last properly decent year they had before that). 2019 was okay but there was a lot wrong with Oates’ EastEnders still. I think it’s the fact that it came just before the pandemic and was the last time the show was settled again before this time last year that makes it look better to some people than it actually was.

I like the new producer, the best since Kate Oates. And he's bringing a lot of favorites back.

Redway 23-08-2023 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 11321602)
I like the new producer, the best since Kate Oates. And he's bringing a lot of favorites back.

Yeah, Clenshaw’s alright. I was a bit sceptical at first and there are still one or two stories not hitting the mark (Stacey/Theo and everyone around Theo acting like totally oblivious idiots to facilitate it being a prime example) but his passion for the show can’t be denied.

Swan 01-09-2023 10:51 PM

I think Drama skipped an episode today, i imagine it's to do with little Mo being raped. I understand that, but just cut it out, no need not to air the whole episode. They've done this with loads of episodes, it's annoying.

Redway 01-09-2023 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Swan (Post 11324647)
I think Drama skipped an episode today, i imagine it's to do with little Mo being raped. I understand that, but just cut it out, no need not to air the whole episode. They've done this with loads of episodes, it's annoying.

Think it’s airing on Drama at around 01.45 this morning (something like that). I think they felt like it was a bit too dark to go out at the normal pre-watershed time but it ain’t been dropped altogether.

Swan 01-09-2023 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Redway (Post 11324652)
Think it’s airing on Drama at around 01.45 this morning (something like that). I think they felt like it was a bit too dark to go out at the normal pre-watershed time but it ain’t been dropped altogether.

You're right, thanks for that!

Vanessa 17-10-2023 04:12 PM

Catching up on classic EastEnders. It's so good!

Swan 17-10-2023 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 11348889)
Catching up on classic EastEnders. It's so good!

Yeah i need to catch up on this, where are you at in the show Vanessa?

Vanessa 17-10-2023 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Swan (Post 11348902)
Yeah i need to catch up on this, where are you at in the show Vanessa?

The police just questioned Janine over Barry's death. But she's way ahead of them.

Swan 17-10-2023 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 11348904)
The police just questioned Janine over Barry's death. But she's way ahead of them.

Ah yeah, i watched that one the other day. i think im about 4 episodes behind atm.

Vanessa 18-10-2023 12:32 PM

Omg Dirty Den is back!

Vanessa 19-10-2023 12:29 PM

Dennis vs Den. That was brilliant.
Nigel was so good on EastEnders.
I loved Dennis Rickman :love:

Swan 15-11-2023 01:07 PM

Sonia really gets on my nerves.

Vanessa 15-11-2023 01:21 PM

Too much Sonia. Brink back Dennis :fist:

Swan 15-11-2023 01:40 PM

Big Mo and Mickey crack me up :laugh:

Vanessa 29-12-2023 05:59 PM

Omg Dirty Den just set Phil up. That was brilliant!
These two are fantastic!

Swan 16-01-2024 11:44 PM

15 year old Stacy Slater has just turned up in Classic Eastenders. Little Mo's rape trial just done too.

Redway 17-01-2024 03:48 AM

I’m kind of glad the over-criticism of 2004 hasn’t quite withstood the scrutiny of time. I always thought it was at least alright but it and Louise Berridge have been known to get a lot of unfair flack. There’s a lot of golden moments this year, excellent new arrivals (including a much grittier Jean) and it’s mostly decent when it’s not focused on the Ferreiras or Den/Kate (good characters but the affair was a bad story, minus the Chrissie/Kate catfight/hair-clipping). It’s mostly good in the first and last few months of the year.

Early Jean was a revelation. I won’t say she doesn’t have her own nicely niche personality now (or at any other point since she became a regular character) or that she isn’t on the whole an honest reflection of bipolar disorder there’s a certain gritty rawness about Jean in her earlier appearances that we haven’t seen as much of since (minus 2009 when she was nursing Stacey when she started showing symptoms). Obviously she was unwell but 2004-05 Jean is a billion miles away from the ditzy grandma or sausage-surprise nut we have now. That version of Jean lines up more with how Jean was in Stacey and Sean’s childhood. I feel like that grittier essence of Jean (bipolar or no bipolar) has been lost over the years. And the Stacey/Jean week in Dec. ’05 (also the week Frank returned for Janine’s trial and Chrissie decided to plead guilty) is beyond-doubt one of the best single weeks in the history of the show. A little underrated (especially next to the likes of Kat/Zoe you ain’t my mother) but pure gold.

By the way, anyone else love stalker Sarah?

Swan 17-01-2024 08:14 AM

Yeah i didn't actually mind that stalker Sarah. And Jane has pretty much established herself as a main character now, her and Ian are getting closer. She's soo much better than the awful Laura. A much better actress too.

Redway 16-03-2024 03:56 PM

Ugh. 2005. What a glorious year.

Redway 17-05-2024 03:08 PM

Go Sam. (Unearthing Dirty Den.)

Kate! 17-05-2024 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Redway (Post 11452808)
Go Sam. (Unearthing Dirty Den.)

Belting episode

Vanessa 17-05-2024 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Redway (Post 11452808)
Go Sam. (Unearthing Dirty Den.)

Ooooh I need to catch up!

Redway 17-05-2024 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 11452819)
Ooooh I need to catch up!

This is the point where 2005 really steps up, you know, 'ness. You might want to just jump in from here and carry on as it goes from Shannis' wedding-day.

GoldHeart 17-05-2024 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Redway (Post 11452808)
Go Sam. (Unearthing Dirty Den.)

That actress was a much better performer than Westbrook, it's a shame they ditched her. I haven't seen Medcalf in anything else since her EE days .

Redway 17-05-2024 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 11452855)
That actress was a much better performer than Westbrook, it's a shame they ditched her. I haven't seen Medcalf in anything else since her EE days .

This version of Sam (Medcalf) had actually been in it off-and-on over the past 2 years, to be fair. But Westbrook and Medcalf’s versions of the characters were indefinitely abridged so Sam’s characterisation was never allowed to advance in the way that it was in her 2002-05 journey. That Sam left with Johnny Allen’s threats and basically hasn’t been back, not fully.


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