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Crimson Dynamo 25-11-2024 04:23 PM

This is an advert for ‘assisted dying’ on the London Underground.
 
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GdPoXbKW...jpg&name=small

sorry, what?

Beso 25-11-2024 04:26 PM

As silly as this sounds.


If you think your family dont want to see you suffer, you must doubt you loved them enough.

arista 29-11-2024 06:27 AM

She spoke on GMBHD itv
saying if the vote
does not go her way
she will go to Switzerland.

then come back to haunt them?

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/l...5fa3a06d6c.png

Ammi 29-11-2024 06:31 AM

…it’s a strange one, isn’t it…because it’s not only about choice, it’s about wealth, I would say…and who can afford assisted dying…if it’s going to be made choice, I wish it would be something available to all but I’m not thinking that it will be…

arista 29-11-2024 06:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 11582800)
…it’s a strange one, isn’t it…because it’s not only about choice, it’s about wealth, I would say…and who can afford assisted dying…if it’s going to be made choice, I wish it would be something available to all but I’m not thinking that it will be…


It looks like
it will go through Parliament today.

joeysteele 29-11-2024 07:00 AM

Hmm, While conflicted still.
I couldn't support this.

I'd love to be wrong and that it could be set up with the absolute 100% safeguards in place.
However I don't believe the safeguards could be perfect.
One error on this and that would be one too many.

The don't even get DNR rightly set up.

I could even see Doctors being prosecuted by families claiming their loved one would never have voluntarily agreed to this.

I honestly would hate to be an MP voting on this today.
For most their conscience must be being tested cruelly.

If it's passed and I think it will be.
I fear the slippery slope will not be far behind once it's implemented.
I never ever thought I'd agree with Ann Widdecombe on virtually anything.
Her opposition to this is rigid when she was on TV weeks ago talking about it.
I agree with her 100%

Like her, I don't believe there could be the perfect safeguards to ensure no wrongdoings or no errors.

arista 29-11-2024 07:16 AM

Esther stated
it is only those who are Officially Terminally Ill
that can get this

joeysteele 29-11-2024 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11582808)
Esther stated
it is only those who are Officially Terminally Ill
that can get this

How do you determine the time left to live?
In EVERY case.

A relative of mine, not living in the UK admittedly was told they had 6 to 9 months to live.
They lived for 2 more years.
They saw a daughter have her first child.

I just don't think now the perfect safeguards can be put in place.
Certainly they're not, in my view, in this Kim Leadbeater bill.
Sorry but no way could I vote for this.

arista 29-11-2024 08:36 AM

With a Estimated 6 months left to live

Only

smudgie 29-11-2024 09:18 AM

The best bet is to assist yourself when you can.:shrug:
Mine is planned, however the timing is everything, this is where your doctor could come in handy.

UserSince2005 29-11-2024 09:45 AM

why she so desperate to change the law?
for attention?
changing this law will result in so many unjustified deaths
she should just shut up and just fork out the £50 for an easyjet flight to zuirich.

Zizu 29-11-2024 10:10 AM

Esther Rantzen has cancer & joined Dignitas/Labour Party Assited dying bill
 
.

thesheriff443 29-11-2024 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smudgie (Post 11582855)
The best bet is to assist yourself when you can.:shrug:
Mine is planned, however the timing is everything, this is where your doctor could come in handy.

I’m amazed by your mindset and strength
What’s your secret of having no fear ?

Zizu 29-11-2024 10:23 AM

Esther Rantzen has cancer & joined Dignitas/Labour Party Assited dying bill
 
.

arista 29-11-2024 11:58 AM

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/ace/standar...86a96.jpg.webp

joeysteele 29-11-2024 12:09 PM

The useless ' I 'paper cannot even report this right.
Utterly useless and misleading press.

It's not 15 years since the last vote on this.
It is not even 10 years since.

It was defeated at second reading in 2015 in fact.

arista 29-11-2024 12:11 PM

We hope to get the Vote in
Parliament, at around 2:30PM.

Today

arista 29-11-2024 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 11582954)
The useless ' I paper cannot even report this right.
Utterly useless and misleading press.

It's not 15 years since the last vote on this.
It is not even 10 years since.

It was defeated at second reading in 2015 in fact.


Sure a Maths problem
very common

arista 29-11-2024 01:19 PM

Assisted dying bill vote

is in a min.

joeysteele 29-11-2024 01:24 PM

That's actually a smaller majority than I was expecting.
330/275.

arista 29-11-2024 01:24 PM

The Vote Won

Yes 330

No 275
Majority 55


Ref: SkyNewsHD Live

Livia 29-11-2024 01:57 PM

Good news. It must be ensured it is not abused.

Ninastar 29-11-2024 02:30 PM

I think I’m for it. We are able to put our pets out of misery when they become too old/too injured to live comfortably anymore.

It’s an act of love. No one wants to say goodbye. You wish that you could have forever together. But to help put someone/something out of pain and let them rest eternally… I think that’s somewhat beautiful

Gusto Brunt 29-11-2024 02:50 PM

Just gives the green light to mentally ill people who want to choose death over treatment for depression.

Also gives the go ahead to greedy relatives wanting to bump off their gran or grandad so they can get their inheritance early.

I do not agree with this bill.

arista 29-11-2024 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gusto Brunt (Post 11583026)
Just gives the green light to mentally ill people who want to choose death over treatment for depression.

Also gives the go ahead to greedy relatives wanting to bump off their gran or grandad so they can get their inheritance early.

I do not agree with this bill.


Rubbish


Terminally Ill Only

Not everyone is a Criminal


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