Loreen has confirmed she will not hand Isreal the trophy and a number of Spokespeople who were scheduled to give out their countries votes have now decided they won't take part

Israel exposing the bigots and antisemites

we love to see it

:clap1:

So these people are encouraging bullying of one of the contestants?

This sounds a lot like the end run of The X Factor.

Is it bullying? Isreal should not even been there and there has been confirmed situations of the Isreali delegation bullying and harassing other contestants

She’s an open supporter of their genocide, anybody that condones and celebrates the murder of 14,000 children deserve all the criticism and ridicule they receive

Go to bed Liam

This is about a song contest

Jesus wept

:umm2:

When did she do that?

Never I expect ....

I'm objecting to the treatment towards the singer.

If the Delegation is doing anything wrong then fair enough, but it doesn't appear to be bad enough to get the Police involved at least.

And I do agree with you that the Government of Israel is bad, just like Hamas are also bad, I think that just needs to be put out there, both groups are bad.

But I'll always say this, an individual shouldn't be being judged for what their country's Government is doing, and that's such a slippery slope to go down that so many people are looking for any excuse to justify being nasty towards a singer.

Do you believe that she'd be allowed to say otherwise?

And besides, even if she does support her country's actions, she will probably be emotionally thinking about October 7th for starters.

Plus a lot of people (and maybe she falls into this category,) are very patriotic towards their leaders, and don't want to believe the worst about them, there are a lot of people like that across the world, and they would support atrocities as well if it were their country committing the crime. But on many other topics they might be lovely people.

My point being that it doesn't necessarily make these people evil, and I certainly don't believe that justifies some people wanting to physically harm her.

I'm going to think that he has at least heard about it from a reputable source tbf.

NPO and AVROTROS file an official complaint against Joost's disqualification, and want to bring the EBU to court

I am interested to hear their side of the story tbh.

Weren't the police called.
What did they do or say.

If he's not charged for anything yet, why should he be disqualified.
Surely security could ensure no further incidents, whatever this incident really was.

Or is this more about him showing some negativity to Israel.

As Mock says, it will be interesting to see what comes from this.

However, if nothing really comes from it at all.
Then his disqualification is wrong.
I actually think it was anyhow.
In the absence of even police recommending same.

The organisers have made an almighty mess of Eurovision this year.
It was wrong to remove a Nation voted in by the public to the finals from the final itself just a few days later.

The Netherland's should have been able to perform.
After all the hard work to get there.

I agree. There was no need to disqualify them. A warning would have been enough.
I hope Netherlands sue and win.

Very charitable.

Good. I hope they win. There was no need to kick Netherlands out.

with tensions already high, the last thing the organisers needed was someone stirring up trouble. They were absolutely right to take the action they did

Exactly a warning would have been more appropriate.

Then any future incidents for more action.
Absolutely.

all thanks to Israel :idc:

us dutchies will have our revenge though


we will destroy the EBU through many lawsuits

https://wiwibloggs.com/2024/06/06/du...vision/281891/

Netherlands threatening with withdrawal from the 2025 contest, and keeps defending Joost

The whole thing was an absolute mess this year. Don't get me wrong - I enjoyed it, but hey... I enjoy a mess :shrug:. It definitely had a very different feel to usual though.

and if Netherlands withdraw, participation fee will go up massively for other countries, so expect more withdrawals next year ;)


maybe only 20 competing countries or something :joker:

Anymore years like this last one, and it could end up being the end of Eurovision.

There was far too much negativity surrounding the Show, which is always the start of a Show on the decline.