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Originally Posted by Alf
(Post 11481946)
Yeah, boys will be boys. They like to brag about their conquests. Sometimes they exaggerate too.
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Women talk like that too, especially in private as "girl code". Men are much more brazen and braggy out in the open, but girls talk **** a huge amount too. It's way more common than people think. So it's not just a male thing, by any means. I guess I'm the listening type because I attract people who want to be listened to, but some will be very brazen about the things they think and are up to. One girl I knew was very brazen about cheating/sleeping around and calling their current boyfriend a total loser because they didn't give XYZ as a gift or were doing "this" or "that' wrong. The usual bullsh*t. She was enjoying the power she held over men.
Only several years later to have gotten a marriage proposal and then being everything about this marriage and wanting to make that their world. I didn't really care for the negative chatter, but I thought how sad that they thought of relationships that way and didn't understand how to make the most of life. I asked some questions but there's no point in trying to change what I can't change. Not that I had a clue then, anyway :laugh: Still, there was an age gap and she told me some things that still make me think. Not quite a role model or anything, but just a person who isn't afraid to be human to another human being...
Anyway, I didn't have any real expectations. Years later I saw her, that boyfriend proposed. She did seem to enter into a strange mindset where she looked forward to the future, but also anxious and just seemed somewhat more depressed compared to before. Maybe she realized what her past had been or maybe she wasn't actually looking forward. I didn't pry. She was trying to get her life straight and that was a huge focus. Her very much not an asshole then boyfriend was trying to help her including his family to try to be her rock, but she seemed super anxious about the future because she spent her high school years literally *******ing around (her words) and staying up all nights clubbing and drinking. She was clearly humbled by something. Now she had to catch up really quickly. She was a senior for 3-4 years, ffs. I don't think people always stay the same and I hope she figured things out. People are obviously not perfect and I get rid of that expectation as quickly as possible when I meet people.
That doesn't make them any person any less of an asshole who engages in that behavior. I'm not going to say "You get 'em, girl!". However, I think on average, people who are like this are just more honest about it. Whether they're honest with themselves, is a whole different matter. I don't actually know and I leave that between other people and God. But men who talk like this remind me of that girl and I think they're both the same animal, using other people to get their way and not really thinking about the consequences. Sort of like with Trump and the constant venom. It may temporarily feel good to constantly be the star of your own show, but it gets that person in trouble eventually.
To that end, I don't really care who the President has slept with. I think that as long as he didn't break the law (rape, drugging people, etc), then it's not really my business. If they put up two people as candidates and one was more closer to my moral ethics or whatever, way of thinking that translated into good policy, obviously I'm more inclined to vote for them. But I'm not a fool. I know people really can't be held to an ideal standard without at least some part of the illusion breaking apart. We get it wrong in the US when we focus too much on personality traits. Every single one of these human beings have massive baggage or have done something that will offend a good portion of the public. It's just a matter of it becoming public and offending the "wrong" people... and whether they can survive that without imploding, I guess.
There are many more who are quite happy to play risky games with romance and use their sexual prowess to get a foot in the door. Some people would do it just for literally attention. It's present in all aspects of life, from the lowly Starbucks employee on up. The more competitive people feel, the more this behavior will play out. Politics is as competitive as real sports, so I think that aspect of trying to "get one over" will never change. Whether it be sex or exchange of information with the expectation of political favors...
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Originally Posted by bitontheslide
(Post 11481948)
i'm optimistic about a Kamala win, and at the end of the day, it's a positive vibe, and if enough americans feel the same, she will win. It's that simple
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I'm feeling it's optimistic moreso given the media and politicians have gone in lockstep in making sure she is the dream nominee. Even I'm more accepting of it. :laugh:
Trump can be reassured by this, but should be really concerned as well, that Kamala is still fairly opaque for most people and there's so much projection going on around her image...
It's to her advantage because she can possibly puppy eye her way past all his crap and secure a win that way. Trump's garbage is all out there in the open and there's no sanitizing his image. But that's the advantage he has... everyone pretty much knows exactly what he is. So there's no surprises. For Kamala, unless something pretty major comes out or she flubs hard during a debate or campaign event, nobody will be able to be figure it out what is what within that short period of a time. She can make all the promises she wants, but virtually anything she says is unvetted as to her ability to deliver on said promises. Most will be projecting whatever it is they think she could be as President in their vote, as there's no evidence how she'll be really, at least until the day she is sworn in... that may be good enough indeed for a lot of people as it's a sad state of affairs, US politics that is...
