…I know this is going a bit off topic from Ali but I love these moments with Hannah and Lily and Hannah couching Lily in her ‘boot camp’….Lily is just so responsive to Hannah, it’s quite a joy to see…while many of the other HM’s have pandered to Lily and maybe even ‘baby’d’ her…Hannah is just…’now look here, missy…these are the rules and you better shape up…’…not in a confrontational way, though…firm but fair and caring…?…

Yeah. that's what people should be like with her

Honestly, Hannah is spot on there. And did she not have such a thick LANDAN YA GET ME MADEM INNIT accent, and it was delivered to Lily by Ali for example people would be like "Ali = Queen". But as it's Hannah, who does sound common as muck (but so what) people don't take Hannah seriously.

It's not how something said, or the accent, it's what is said. And if you really listen to Hannah a lot of the time in the house, she's actually very perceptive and intelligent. She makes fantastic points.

Agreed. It's a shame because the empathy and the raw cleverness seems to have been lost on a lot of people through all the mouthiness.

…yeah I think it is also how it’s said from Hannah because it really is just a…ok, so this is how it is ….but not in a critical way, Hannah’s calm but she’s also encouraging and shows great faith in Lily that she can be thoughtful and consider others…she doesn’t use language like…’..you could try…’…etc…it really is like a boot camp method of, this is what’s going to happen…:laugh:…and Lily looks so responsive to that…

Hanah was great there with Lily.....and Lily looked like she was listening and it did seem to click when she spoke to her about the screaming. Lily is just young and immature but it did look like she took it on board from Hanah....she is Big Brother's Big Sister to Lily :love:

Not like Ali who on one hand told Sarah to say it to Lily about the screaming , that she wouldn't mind but then when she did and Lily told her about it she told Lily "I don't think you scream much" that isn't helping Lily in the house at all, Hanah was trying to help her not get nominated so much

I just think, sadly, people do look down on Hannah and don't take her seriously because of her thick raw accent. Her and Sarah are fast becoming my favourite HMs. They both ooze authenticity, which i think is a great HM trait.

Half of me would like to think Segun was keeping Ali close in terms of nominations for future weeks and she still has power potentially as HOH....then again I don't think Segun is that smart.

He has given one of the best lines all series though.

Ali is the fakest HM in there, along with possibly Nathan too now (used to like him, really not sure anymore). She uses and manipulates Lily, is obvious imo. Ali is a snake, whereas as Hannah just tells it straight.

…I don’t think in the house any housemate looks down on her, I haven’t seen that from anyone…I mean, I don’t know whether her accent had any bearing on her early conversation with Khaled and aggie-gate when he seemed to interpret aggression that wasn’t there…

Coming up to half way through the series and Lilys redemption arc starts....

Zzzzzxx, boring, predictable, piss off.

Nah not in the house, the other HMs, just the things i've read online. Lots just dismiss her for her thick "common" accent. And i think it's such a shame, because if you can past her accent and listen to what she's actually saying, she makes so much sense. She's extremely perceptive and intelligent.

…I think that she oozes emotional intelligence in that she seems to absorb so many perspectives whenever there’s conflict and she also seems fairly balanced in stepping back when she feels that’s the best thing also…

The fact that people are turning on her and Segun just cause they called Ali a red witch is sending me like Ali has LITERALLY been a witch in that house she's lucky she hasn't been actually confronted or called out yet.

:joker:

I thought Nathan had finally seen the light with Ali but then he kissed her on the cheek in last nights live feed.

Here for nathan bursting into flames.

Of all the milk toast comments to make about another HM 'red witch' has to be the most milk toast :joker:

Yes, for sure.

There are too many judging her on how she says a thing, her accent, rather than what she is saying.

It's an odd venn diagram of racism and classism and good old regular BB ignorance... "You are here".

Milk toast? :laugh:

Or milquetoast if you prefer. Used mainly to mean a meek or timid person, but also to mean bland, middle of the road, or inoffensive :)

Everyday's a school day :laugh: I agree though I'd kind like being called a Red Witch tbh

yeah, it's really not that insulting :laugh:

Manky toes lily.