Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 11544093)

Exactly and I can't even stand Ali.

The Ryan spoon comment, just shows you're not allowed to say anything these days. I'll be honest ...I didn't even see her t-shirt as anything political/ controversial ,it just looked like a watermelon,I've seen a ton of watermelon design in clothing which are innocent enough. But the problem now is ...is wearing a watermelon now seen as some secret political statement? :rolleyes: .

In Ali's case she's known to do this ...as she will likely be very 'pro Palestine' , but maybe the outrage wouldn't have been the same if another housemate wore that same t-shirt.

BB producer's removing the episode from ITVX was OTT .

Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 11544093)

Exactly and I can't even stand Ali.

The Ryan spoon comment, just shows you're not allowed to say anything these days. I'll be honest ...I didn't even see her t-shirt as anything political/ controversial ,it just looked like a watermelon,I've seen a ton of watermelon design in clothing which are innocent enough. But the problem now is ...is wearing a watermelon now seen as some secret political statement? :rolleyes: .

In Ali's case she's known to do this ...as she will likely be very 'pro Palestine' , but maybe the outrage wouldn't have been the same if another housemate wore that same t-shirt.

BB producer's removing the episode from ITVX was OTT .

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 11544191)

…as he says, I don’t know how long this will stay up…(…or if the vid has been posted…)…but shows a clip of the unedited footage with Ali wearing the t shirt and then with the t shirt watermelon image blacked out…





…it does seem odd to take it off air to edit out, essentially censor when the whole concept is BigBrother …but then they do and have always censored content, haven’t they…

Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 11544198)

It's just really bizarre how a watermelon t-shirt can cause this much controversy. I wonder if BB have secretly said anything to Ali , censoring it is a bit much.

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 11544195)

…tbf, though …it isn’t a ‘secret’ political statement even though many of us might not have been aware of it…Im not commenting on her own views with regard to the subject …only that if I start to type in ‘watermelon t shirt…’…the search immediately connects Palestine …

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 11544201)

…I’m just googling because I wasn’t aware of any political connection as I don’t think any or many of us would be…this is a wiki page that came up…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waterm...%20territories.

Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 11544204)

I honestly did not know about the politics connotations / symbolism,as I've seen so many casual watermelon designs on everything & not just t-shirts,but kids stuff . It was something I never gave a thought to , It just passively went by me , like a SpongeBob squepants PJ
set or something.

Originally Posted by Kate! (Post 11543792)

No it flipping well doesn't? She most likely just thought, in all innocence, that it was just a pretty t shirt. As I would if I saw it in a shop.



Fgs.

Originally Posted by Jessica. (Post 11543821)

It's not antisemitic though, it's just an item of clothing in support of Palestine, you can hate genocide without bringing religion into it.

Originally Posted by vesavius (Post 11544388)

I am just amazed at the range of performative protest tee shirts this woman has. She is the type of superficial Guardian reading idiot that changes her facebook profile every month to the current thing in order to signal to her chums what a great person she is.

https://i.postimg.cc/XvjnyfcH/raf-36...43f4786-u1.jpgimage upload software

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11544430)

I didn't think the issue was the melon itself but that it was done as a map of Israel which would signify Israel being wiped out, look if Jews found it anti semetic who are we to judge, if I saw something that as anti Irish I would imagine many people who are not Irish would not have an issue with it

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11544439)

Controversially though (and I'm not just saying this to be nasty towards the Jewish) but every group/community it feels like is looking for any excuse to be offended by something these days.

This from Ali is pretty tame, especially compared to the Nazi & Hamas loving people that are in our society.

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 11544477)

…whatever someone’s beliefs that they hold, it’s something they hold in their mind and in their heart and not on their clothing…I mean the only statement that really makes is that rather than think of donating to something that they believe in, they’ll donate to a clothing manufacturer and does that manufacturers hold the same ethics as them also…?…anyway, I just in general don’t get the need to either buy or wear a political slogan t shirt because I suspect so many are made for profit and not for belief reasons…

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11544479)

I agree Ammi

although in my youth I had a T shirt that said

'For Fox Sake, Stop the Hunt'

which I was very proud of :laugh: