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☺♥BB5♥☻& 26-08-2007 03:52 PM

i perfer Nikki to chantelle

Captain.Remy 26-08-2007 03:53 PM

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Cute is not the word but it shows how Nikki is.
Thats nikki being herself, any problem with that.
Any problem then ! :bigsmile:

farhad 26-08-2007 03:56 PM

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Cute is not the word but it shows how Nikki is.
Thats nikki being herself, any problem with that.
Any problem then ! :bigsmile:
Must have a problem with someone enjoying themselves.

Captain.Remy 26-08-2007 03:58 PM

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Cute is not the word but it shows how Nikki is.
Thats nikki being herself, any problem with that.
Any problem then ! :bigsmile:
Must have a problem with someone enjoying themselves.
For once I agree with you Farhad, you're being rubbish now, just enjoy I agree with you, it won't happen for a long time.
And I'm enjoying myself and what ? What's the problem ?

farhad 26-08-2007 04:01 PM

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Cute is not the word but it shows how Nikki is.
Thats nikki being herself, any problem with that.
Any problem then ! :bigsmile:
Must have a problem with someone enjoying themselves.
For once I agree with you Farhad, you're being rubbish now, just enjoy I agree with you, it won't happen for a long time.
And I'm enjoying myself and what ? What's the problem ?
I was talking about Nikki enjoying herself, which you clearly have a problem with this, and calling her awful.

Captain.Remy 26-08-2007 04:03 PM

I called her awful because sometimes she's been extremely pathetic and ridiculous. That was in Big Brother, sometimes her behaviours made me mad, the last week I didn't want to watch her, I did cut the sound when they showed her. I haven't any problem with Nikki enjoying herself, good for her if she's famous.

farhad 26-08-2007 04:13 PM

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I called her awful because sometimes she's been extremely pathetic and ridiculous. That was in Big Brother, sometimes her behaviours made me mad, the last week I didn't want to watch her, I did cut the sound when they showed her. I haven't any problem with Nikki enjoying herself, good for her if she's famous.
Thats going off topic, this about Chantelles night out with Nikki, not on about BB7, and you seem to redicule her for every opportunity, most of the time without any reason.

Captain.Remy 26-08-2007 04:14 PM

No you are wrong, I've always got a reason for doing that, I'm not stupid. And you told me why I called her awful then I reply, I'm a polite boy haha.
I love Nikki but not in her "ridiculous tantrums".

farhad 26-08-2007 04:16 PM

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No you are wrong, I've always got a reason for doing that, I'm not stupid. And you told me why I called her awful then I reply, I'm a polite boy haha.
I love Nikki but not in her "ridiculous tantrums".
fine then stop rediculing her, she wasn't having a tantrum there, she looked she was enjoying herself.

Captain.Remy 26-08-2007 04:25 PM

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No you are wrong, I've always got a reason for doing that, I'm not stupid. And you told me why I called her awful then I reply, I'm a polite boy haha.
I love Nikki but not in her "ridiculous tantrums".
fine then stop rediculing her, she wasn't having a tantrum there, she looked she was enjoying herself.
I do what I want first, if I want to say she has been ridiculous sometimes in BB I say it and I think it. Good for her if she's enjoying herself but when you're drunk you don't enjoy everything and as you said earlier, she didn't ask that attention so how she could enjoying that ?

farhad 26-08-2007 04:29 PM

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No you are wrong, I've always got a reason for doing that, I'm not stupid. And you told me why I called her awful then I reply, I'm a polite boy haha.
I love Nikki but not in her "ridiculous tantrums".
fine then stop rediculing her, she wasn't having a tantrum there, she looked she was enjoying herself.
I do what I want first, if I want to say she has been ridiculous sometimes in BB I say it and I think it. Good for her if she's enjoying herself but when you're drunk you don't enjoy everything and as you said earlier, she didn't ask that attention so how she could enjoying that ?
Again off-topic, the topic is about her and chantelles night out, nothing to do with how awful she was in Big brother, I got the vid when papparazzi were harrassing both of them, in which she gave a reaction in a joking way, and now that even gets to her haters, its like she cannot do anything without being heckled.

Captain.Remy 26-08-2007 04:32 PM

But you asked me why I called her "awful" then I reply, don't call that a off-topic because you made it first.
I agree with you on the fact her reaction is funny that's all, why are you looking for some arguments ? That's terrible.

farhad 26-08-2007 04:37 PM

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But you asked me why I called her "awful" then I reply, don't call that a off-topic because you made it first.
I agree with you on the fact her reaction is funny that's all, why are you looking for some arguments ? That's terrible.
I'm not looking for argument, you started by bringing last year how awful she was, as well as Redmoon, which I replied quite patiently.

Captain.Remy 26-08-2007 04:38 PM

We were talking and you asked me why I called her "awful" that's all.

farhad 26-08-2007 04:41 PM

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We were talking and you asked me why I called her "awful" that's all.
You also keep insulting her by calling her mentally handicap in nearly all your post, when she doesn't have any dissability.

geoking66 26-08-2007 04:44 PM

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Cute is not the word but it shows how Nikki is.
Thats nikki being herself, any problem with that.
You obviously have a problem with Aisleyne being herself, she doesn't have to scream and shout about air conditioning to get third place rather than meaningless fifth place without an interview.

Captain.Remy 26-08-2007 04:48 PM

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We were talking and you asked me why I called her "awful" that's all.
You also keep insulting her by calling her mentally handicap in nearly all your post, when she doesn't have any dissability.
I didn't say that in that thread. And of course she's mental, anorexia is a mental disorder and even if she isn't anymore, she does suffer about what happens next. She needs to be loved, she needs attention, it's not insulting her because it's the truth. We talked about that in some other threads. But now back to the topic please.

farhad 26-08-2007 11:27 PM

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Cute is not the word but it shows how Nikki is.
Thats nikki being herself, any problem with that.
You obviously have a problem with Aisleyne being herself, she doesn't have to scream and shout about air conditioning to get third place rather than meaningless fifth place without an interview.
She has to show her bits to get attention, if nikki screamed and shouted, she did it in BB house in the enviroment she was living, made it her home, on the outside of BB she is by far better behaved than Trashlyene, she doesn't crave for attention, like by showing of her bits.

farhad 26-08-2007 11:29 PM

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We were talking and you asked me why I called her "awful" that's all.
You also keep insulting her by calling her mentally handicap in nearly all your post, when she doesn't have any dissability.
I didn't say that in that thread. And of course she's mental, anorexia is a mental disorder and even if she isn't anymore, she does suffer about what happens next. She needs to be loved, she needs attention, it's not insulting her because it's the truth. We talked about that in some other threads. But now back to the topic please.
But you said mentally handicap, and nikki doesn't have that, she has anorexia, same as me.

geoking66 27-08-2007 12:57 AM

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We were talking and you asked me why I called her "awful" that's all.
You also keep insulting her by calling her mentally handicap in nearly all your post, when she doesn't have any dissability.
I didn't say that in that thread. And of course she's mental, anorexia is a mental disorder and even if she isn't anymore, she does suffer about what happens next. She needs to be loved, she needs attention, it's not insulting her because it's the truth. We talked about that in some other threads. But now back to the topic please.
But you said mentally handicap, and nikki doesn't have that, she has anorexia, same as me.
Actually, it is. Anorexia is a technically a mental disorder and all mental disorders are considered handicaps (legally disabilities). Thus, an anorexic person has a handicap/disability. This applies in almost all modern day anti-discrimination acts, in the UK, US, Canada, et alii.

farhad 27-08-2007 01:29 AM

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We were talking and you asked me why I called her "awful" that's all.
You also keep insulting her by calling her mentally handicap in nearly all your post, when she doesn't have any dissability.
I didn't say that in that thread. And of course she's mental, anorexia is a mental disorder and even if she isn't anymore, she does suffer about what happens next. She needs to be loved, she needs attention, it's not insulting her because it's the truth. We talked about that in some other threads. But now back to the topic please.
But you said mentally handicap, and nikki doesn't have that, she has anorexia, same as me.
Actually, it is. Anorexia is a technically a mental disorder and all mental disorders are considered handicaps (legally disabilities). Thus, an anorexic person has a handicap/disability. This applies in almost all modern day anti-discrimination acts, in the UK, US, Canada, et alii.
What are you talking about, Anorexia is caused from lack of apetite, nothing to do with ones brain function, Nikki isn't a mentally autistic that isn'taware of life, thats all rubbish talk, so your say Russel Brand also is mentally handicap because he suffered from anorexia.

geoking66 27-08-2007 03:55 AM

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We were talking and you asked me why I called her "awful" that's all.
You also keep insulting her by calling her mentally handicap in nearly all your post, when she doesn't have any dissability.
I didn't say that in that thread. And of course she's mental, anorexia is a mental disorder and even if she isn't anymore, she does suffer about what happens next. She needs to be loved, she needs attention, it's not insulting her because it's the truth. We talked about that in some other threads. But now back to the topic please.
But you said mentally handicap, and nikki doesn't have that, she has anorexia, same as me.
Actually, it is. Anorexia is a technically a mental disorder and all mental disorders are considered handicaps (legally disabilities). Thus, an anorexic person has a handicap/disability. This applies in almost all modern day anti-discrimination acts, in the UK, US, Canada, et alii.
What are you talking about, Anorexia is caused from lack of apetite, nothing to do with ones brain function, Nikki isn't a mentally autistic that isn'taware of life, thats all rubbish talk, so your say Russel Brand also is mentally handicap because he suffered from anorexia.
Do you know the neurological basis for anorexia nervosa? Anorexia itself, although commonly implying nervosa, is actually the part of the disease that is lack of appetite. Anorexia nervosa is caused by a numerous number of chemical imbalances in the brain of different hormones, the primary being serotonin. Serotonin is a hormone that causes apptetite and ironically sexual pleasure. The imbalance of serotonin means that certain hormonal receptors in the brain do not get enough of the chemical, thus the body does not recognise that it is hungry or subconsciously denies that it is hungry. This then in turn leads to starvation, which then lowers the serotonin level even more. Serotonin is an extremely important hormone in your body and without it, you can be pretty sure that you're either going to get extremely sick or possibly die.

Like clinical depression and obsessive-compulsive disorder, anorexia nervosa is normally attributed not only to neurological, but also psychological factors. Intense emotional pain due to bullying or other emotional factors can cause chemical inbalances in the brain, some of these turn out to cause anorexia. Although not fully understood, it is known throughout the scientific community that malfunctions in hormone transport and balance are some of the major factors of anorexia.

Captain.Remy 27-08-2007 08:31 AM

Anorexia nervosa is a psychiatric diagnosis that describes an eating disorder characterized by low body weight and body image distortion with an obsessive fear of gaining weight. Individuals with anorexia often control body weight by voluntary starvation, purging, vomiting, excessive exercise, or other weight control measures, such as diet pills or diuretic drugs. It primarily affects adolescent females in the Western world. Anorexia nervosa is a complex condition, involving psychological, neurobiological, and sociological components

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Therefore Anorexia IS a mental disorder, deal with it Farhad.

Red Moon 27-08-2007 09:29 AM

But we know Nikki isn't just anorexic:

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An arduous journey of anorexia, OCD and hospitals
Nikki Grahame became a star on Big Brother – getting her own TV show Princess Nikki – but 24-year-old still battles with obsessive complusive disorder.

'I wanted to achieve something huge,' she tells Now. 'I've been out of hospital for eight years, but I've missed all my schooling. I could never go to university, but it's damn well time I achieved something good in my life and repaid my mum for all the crap I've put her through.'

She once weighed 2st 9lb

Her hilarious antics on this year's BB were in sharp contrast to her earlier health struggles, which culminated in an anorexia-induced coma at the age of 12, when she weighed a shocking 2st 9lb.

When her parents divorced around the same time that her beloved grandfather died, Nikki's happy childhood ended. The devastated eight-year-old gymnastics student began feeling inadequate and was soon convinced she was fat. 'Stopping eating was a way of keeping Mum close,' she recalls. 'It was a downward spiral that became difficult to get out of.'

BB was like being in hospital

This marked the beginning of a 10-year nightmare for Nikki, who spent most of her teens in and out of psychiatric hospitals. In fact, she found that the BB house was akin to being confined in a hospital.

'That's why I adapted so well,' she laughs. 'I'm used to being in confined areas. To me, it was just like a holiday camp. I had no responsibilities. In the house all I had to worry about was whether the bloody air-con was on or when they'd boot me out.'

Although still incredibly slim, Nikki's eating problems are now behind her. 'I have a healthy lifestyle. Yes, I'm a bit erratic, a bit stroppy and I have temper tantrums. I can be irrational, but I'm perfectly in control of my life.'

A chronic fear of germs

Sadly, Nikki's experiences and need for control and order in her life have left her suffering from obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD). This causes people to have unwanted thoughts (obsessions) and repeat certain behaviours (compulsions), interfering with their daily lives.

'If someone passed me a fork with their hand over the mouth bit, I wouldn't be able to use it,' admits Nikki. 'If someone poured me a drink and I didn't see where the cup came from, I wouldn't be able to drink it. It's different in a bar because I know they've been in the dishwasher.'

Nikki's chronic fear of germs leads to her obsessive-compulsive behaviour. 'I don't like touching door handles. I open doors with the back of my hand or get someone else to open the door. I never touch the toilet lock. I use tissue to touch the lock and the chain. I hover over the toilet seat. Not my own toilet seat, though!

There are worse things


'There's nothing wrong with being like that. It's better than starving myself to death – there are worse things I could do. It's just the way I am, I don't need to change. If I become really content in life I may forget these traits, but at the moment it's not harming me or anyone else. It's just something I do.'

OCD explained
  • Worries, doubts and irrational beliefs are common, but when they become excessive, such as endless hand washing, then it's an OCD. The disorder includes both obsessions and compulsions.
  • Common obsessions are: a fear of germs or dirt; a need to have things 'just so'; to ask questions or confess; or to repeatedly wash, count, check or touch things.
  • Although OCD is curable in some individuals, most sufferers achieve symptom relief with medication and psychological techniques, such as cognitive behaviour therapy.
  • For further information, visit www.ocfoundation.org.

Source: Now Magazine

farhad 27-08-2007 10:50 AM

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Anorexia nervosa is a psychiatric diagnosis that describes an eating disorder characterized by low body weight and body image distortion with an obsessive fear of gaining weight. Individuals with anorexia often control body weight by voluntary starvation, purging, vomiting, excessive exercise, or other weight control measures, such as diet pills or diuretic drugs. It primarily affects adolescent females in the Western world. Anorexia nervosa is a complex condition, involving psychological, neurobiological, and sociological components

By wikipedia.

Therefore Anorexia IS a mental disorder, deal with it Farhad.
Mental health disorder, not mentally autistic disorder like your trying to call her.


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