Lol a bit random but put the [img ] [/ img] tags around it with no spaces :wink:

How many times can I say it, the McCanns don't deserve anything anyway. If we banned every movie that had something about abduction in it because some morons lost their kid, then none of those movies would be shown. This is utter bullcrap. This is a complete violation of people's rights for media to be accessible.

why dont the Mcanns deserve anything? i dont understand your opinion at all. the Mcanns have been through the worst ordeal of their absoloute life and losing their daughter is one thing, but to be then accused of being the murderers is even worse for them, they do derseve a load and having a kidnapping film delayed from being released is okay for them and okay for many who sympathise with their situation and so many kids go missing all the time and this is respectful ai'nt it:sad: to release it now would be disrispectful ai'nt it, ya see:puzzled:

they are not banning evry kidnapping film are they:puzzled: they aRE temporary banning this movie only at the moment and like i explained above and many times in thread it is fair.

Edited by Sunny_01 - dressing up insults with smileys still makes them insults, any further and a warning will be issued

the vilolation of peoples rights is tough tooti and the Mcanns have won this battle and it was decided by decent people. remember the james bulger case and Childs Play 3 being banned and pulled off the shelves in respect, its same thing again but this movie is a new release and childs play 3 was an oldie so that dont matter as much i guess but i think it did matter to some but that was just tough tooti:bigsmile:

Affleck delays release

If you read the above story you might find that it was actually the director (Ben Afflecks) decision not to release to film and is not about censorship at all. It is about human feelings around a highly sensitive issue.

I feel Affleck made the right decision, he would have been slated in the press in this country, the little girl in the film that goes missing is even called Madeline!! couldnt win with this one could he, its a shame but I am sure everyone will get to see it when he decides the time is right to release the film

Controlling others freedom of choice without permission is not "decent". It is control freak arrogance....

agreed, The Government are pushing the limits of "Freedom"

Almost everyone goes through something traumatic, just because the McCann's was publicised for no real reason doesn't mean that they should be treated like royalty. I used to have serious clinical depression (but not anyway), but it wouldn't be fair if they blocked a movie about people with depression just out of decency. I know that Ben Affleck was the one who blocked it, but it's still the same principle. Nothing should be blocked "out of respect." Parents like the McCanns who leave their children unattended really need to go to parenting classes or at least some sort of therapy because they have completely abdicated their responsibilities as parents.

Clearly I remember the Bulger case better than you

The Childs Play 3 scenario was seized on by the defence and by the newspapers, the movie was pulled, after the trial it emerged that they had never actually seen it, it was nothing at all about respect it was all about selling newsprint.

You describe Childs Play 3 as an "oldie" at the time of the Bulger Killing - it only shows you do not know what you are talking about - Childs Play 3 did not have a theatrical release in this country and not certified by the BBFC for video release until November 11 1992.

Childs Play 3 was released on video on 5th December 1992
James Bulger was killed on 12 February 1993

Not exactly an "oldie"


As for peoples rights mattering only to some, and if you object its "tough tooti" ?

thats the kind of self deception that killed six million jews

Welcome to the world where you show your ID card on demand and are willing to tell the government every aspect of your private life because they tell you its good for you - I'm sure you will love it

and just because you tart up the insults to forum members with various smileys... it doesn't stop it being an insult, though there are certain people who think it does.

excuse me!!! i just said what i heard right and i heard that Childs play 3 was taken off the shelves as the james bulger case was very similar to what occured in the film childs play 3. also i heard that films dont get mentioned on the news at the same time as the bulger case for nothin and childsplay 3 was mentioned and even the picture of the video case was shown on the news and the director of the film was also interviewed so i heard

i am 19 so its oldie to me:bigsmile: and i dont know bout dates and stuff and i only know what i was told right. whats jews got to do with this discussion or id cards:puzzled: we dont have id cards but we do have a discussion on a banned kidnapping film and i brought up the Bulger case but you bring up somethin which is ridiculous? i always say tough tooti, its one of my favurite sayings okay. have you got some?

im not tarting anything up:puzzled: im having a discussion and your spoiling it by talking bout smilies:puzzled: i like smilies and i use them when i think it is apropriate,if someone complains i can always not use one or two, i used the angry one and i stopped that one a bit as it was upsetting im not taking orders from you when ive done nothin wrong:sad:

So you are 19, you tried to trivialise the pulling of a movie by using the Childs Play 3 example by inferring it was Ok as it was an "oldie".

At the time of the murder of James Bulger, which was the crux and the point of your argument excusing the pulling of a movie today you forgot or just plain did not know that at the time of the killing that movie was not an "oldie"

as for what Jews and ID cards have to do with it - it was an example, in a thread titled Censorship :

You said

I take my rights very seriously thank you very much.

You may think its "tough tooti" to have your rights violated - but I don't.

My example, as it clearly went over your head, was about what happens when people flippantly allow their rights to be taken away

It is indeed a the kind of self deception that killed six million jews - because people allowed their rights to be slowly taken away, and that road leads to totalitarianism, and it always starts small.

The first thing the Nazi's targetted for action was movies, then newspapers, then books. and people stood by and allowed it to happen, people like you allowed their rights to be violated until so many of their rights had gone that they were powerless to do anything, except sit back and tacitly agree to mass murder. and it started small, with banning movies, the russians did it, the chinese did it, the first step in controlling a population is controlling the content of its entertainment - for whatever spurious reason they can latch onto. get their "friends" in the media publishing set to start campaigns, get their business cronies to lean on distributors.


One of the first movies the Nazi's banned was a movie called M - directed by Fritz lang. Its the story of a child murderer.

Sound familiar - well not quite, call it syzyrgy.


I'm not giving you "orders" - I'm calling you on foolish and childish and ignorant comments, on giving an example of something to excuse my rights being taken away, even the small right of being able to go to a cinema to see a movie, and not having a clue about the actual facts and circumstances of the very example you gave to excuse it.

and as for the smilies - you have been insulting people and dressing up the insults in smilies - do you actually think no-one will notice the insults if you end it with :xyxwave: or :thumbs:

Obviously you do.

A discussion is not a discussion when one resorts to insult, and then cowardly and childishly ends the insult with :xyxwave: but I guess sticking your tongue out and running away is difficult to do with any kind of effectiveness when you are online .

i was saying that Childs play 3 was an oldie as i am 19 and it seemed apropriate to say because of that and nothin more -before you analyse any further fine. i did say that the movie was pulled/banned due to the Bulger case - which was correct from what i had heard okay. there is nothing trivial bout the whole two incidents. no way man:sad: in both cases there was children involved and Childsplay 3 was some poxy horror film which was temporrarily banned at that time which was indeed apropriate under those particular circumstances and those were - the poor taste of having that movie stayed on the shelves of video libraries at that time. at the moment they wish to tempory ban this new kidnapping movie and it is a fair decision as it is only some poxy kidnapping film and so what - if it gets placed back a bit and gets a temopory ban, it is right due to the feelings of the Mcanns, their friends, those who are sympathetic to their situation, and so fourth. there are going to be problems with that decision but thats just tough tooty like i said

i said (the violation of peoples rights) in the thread, true- titled (censorship) i was discussing the tempory banning of this kidnapping movie and simply mentioned Childs play 3 as it was a film from the past which i said oldie to, i know its not ancient it was a figure of speech i guess but you go back to the older days and talk bout black and white film:puzzled: okay that is older fair enough but hardly wins anyroad. my example stands fair:bigsmile: Childs play was a tempory/banned movie at the time but on video then and today it is cinema and then onto dvd. also you go on bout jews and nazis and i understand your similarities you are bringing into this discussion but i dont think that the person or persons giving the orders for the present kidnapping film to be tempory banned will take any of that into account. they just tempory ban it and thats ay okay with them and in my opinion, tought toootie to those who cant wait. i say wait a bit as its respectful okay. also the Fritz lang film does ring familiar as you said it was due to a child murderer that that is familiar terrortory ill grant you

you taking this discussion way over proportion with you criticise my use of smilies. if you have claimed to pick up on some sort of smily attack in my replies you have got it all wrong. a smily is a fun thing to add in a post and that is why they are freely there to use as and wish someone chooses to. it is not an insult as you read it, it is just the way i choose to place it in a reply,my reply and that felt fine at the time so what. you can always use it in your reply to me deary. you say bout sticking my tongue out n running away and when i am being effective and when i am on line and the difference it makes, my god you do knitpick at stuff. lucky members are doing this for theirs pleasure. but like i said earlier, some spoil it by getting to serious and you do aparently and pick on smilies which is a bit strange id thought

Would seem I'm not the only one

okay, i take yours and moderators points as i dont want a warning for using smilies:sad: i have edited any which may offend in my earlier reply to you- i thought i could use them as they were there to be used, but i see other members use them on other threads and it was okay, oh well i guess thats tough tooti to me then? if it is offending i shall only use a couple of nice ones or confused or sad ones:flowers::flower::wavey::elephant:

Banning the movie was pathetic

Down with censorship! :devil: