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Billy 26-11-2008 02:45 PM

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You say that like it's an insult? Do you expect her to do a different song every week? Cos her album isn;t going to be a collection of different styles is it? So why should it be now?
Its a singing contest and thus she should prove that she can sing a variety of songs in a variety of styles. She's still a long way from doing that.
Umm no, it's a singing contest, therefore she should prove she has what it takes to be a recording artist. Since when did that mean being able to sing every single genre imaginable? Oh wait it doesn't.

NettoSuperstar! 26-11-2008 02:47 PM

they should do songs that show us what kind of popstar they are going to be

Billy 26-11-2008 02:47 PM

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Why is it that people seem to look for reasons to hate on Diana? You say she's boring and predictable but she's the only unique one there really apart from Ruth. JLS are a smartprice Boys 2 Men, Alexandra will end up a version of Leona Lewis and Beyonce but with a lot less success, Eoghan will make one album and disapear...Diana's probably one of the most unique talents ever on X Factor, shame she can't be appreciated for it since the vast majority of X factor viewers think Talent requires someone to sing through a machine...
Once again she's picked a slow song with just one instruemnt. Theres definitely a pattern forming here. Mind you, judging by last weeks performance as many as two instruments would drown out her weak vocals.
You say that like it's an insult? Do you expect her to do a different song every week? Cos her album isn;t going to be a collection of different styles is it? So why should it be now?
errr... maybe to show her versatility? All the other acts are managing a different style of song every week, and Alex was slated in the beginning for making obvious choices. I don't see why it's so different with Diana. Surely doing different genres is the whole point of having a different theme every week
If the whole point in themes was to do different genres, then don't you think that each theme would be a different genre?

XxShortyxX 26-11-2008 02:47 PM

The most famous Artists in the world can only sing the type of songs they sing, for example, could you see Celion D singing an Opera song? or a heavy mental song? no.

hannah. 26-11-2008 02:49 PM

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Why is it that people seem to look for reasons to hate on Diana? You say she's boring and predictable but she's the only unique one there really apart from Ruth. JLS are a smartprice Boys 2 Men, Alexandra will end up a version of Leona Lewis and Beyonce but with a lot less success, Eoghan will make one album and disapear...Diana's probably one of the most unique talents ever on X Factor, shame she can't be appreciated for it since the vast majority of X factor viewers think Talent requires someone to sing through a machine...
Once again she's picked a slow song with just one instruemnt. Theres definitely a pattern forming here. Mind you, judging by last weeks performance as many as two instruments would drown out her weak vocals.
You say that like it's an insult? Do you expect her to do a different song every week? Cos her album isn;t going to be a collection of different styles is it? So why should it be now?
errr... maybe to show her versatility? All the other acts are managing a different style of song every week, and Alex was slated in the beginning for making obvious choices. I don't see why it's so different with Diana. Surely doing different genres is the whole point of having a different theme every week
If the whole point in themes was to do different genres, then don't you think that each theme would be a different genre?
I don't mean total different genres, but different styles at least. Fair enough she wants to stick to what she knows but it's just dull for her imo. I think she'd get more votes if she tried something different, because even if it wasn't as "good" as normal, people would think "oh wow, diana just tried a different style, good on her". A lot of people praised her in Disco Week because she tried something different, and it wasn't half as bad as a lot of people expected it to be.

GiRTh 26-11-2008 02:50 PM

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Oh no, how dare her fans vote for her! and how do you know she wont be good? bl***y hell you havn't even heard her yet!
Girth is looking for reasons to dislike her btw. He won't like her even if she gives a stellar performance so there's no point even trying there.
Do you honestly think thats true?

I thought her first performance was OK but since then I find my self puzzled at all you guys going bonkers over her. I couldn't see it. I looked and looked and looked and I still couldnt see it and I reckon I can spot a good singer when I see/hear one. Meanwhile, Alex was putting in some fine performance but I didnt see anywhere near the level of hysteria. I dont like hype, I dont like constant praise with no criticism and thus I thought it my duty to try and redress the balance. Thats what its about.

hannah. 26-11-2008 02:50 PM

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The most famous Artists in the world can only sing the type of songs they sing, for example, could you see Celion D singing an Opera song? or a heavy mental song? no.
that's not what I'm saying. Ruth does a lot better with heavier songs, but you still see her doing ballads, so I don't see why Diana can't experiment a bit more, she just seems to go for a safe song for her style every week

Billy 26-11-2008 02:51 PM

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Why is it that people seem to look for reasons to hate on Diana? You say she's boring and predictable but she's the only unique one there really apart from Ruth. JLS are a smartprice Boys 2 Men, Alexandra will end up a version of Leona Lewis and Beyonce but with a lot less success, Eoghan will make one album and disapear...Diana's probably one of the most unique talents ever on X Factor, shame she can't be appreciated for it since the vast majority of X factor viewers think Talent requires someone to sing through a machine...
Once again she's picked a slow song with just one instruemnt. Theres definitely a pattern forming here. Mind you, judging by last weeks performance as many as two instruments would drown out her weak vocals.
You say that like it's an insult? Do you expect her to do a different song every week? Cos her album isn;t going to be a collection of different styles is it? So why should it be now?
errr... maybe to show her versatility? All the other acts are managing a different style of song every week, and Alex was slated in the beginning for making obvious choices. I don't see why it's so different with Diana. Surely doing different genres is the whole point of having a different theme every week
If the whole point in themes was to do different genres, then don't you think that each theme would be a different genre?
I don't mean total different genres, but different styles at least. Fair enough she wants to stick to what she knows but it's just dull for her imo. I think she'd get more votes if she tried something different, because even if it wasn't as "good" as normal, people would think "oh wow, diana just tried a different style, good on her". A lot of people praised her in Disco Week because she tried something different, and it wasn't half as bad as a lot of people expected it to be.
Why would she do different styles when she knows they aren't going to work? For example, the past two themes have been Take That and Best of British. Why would she pick 2 songs that DON'T fit her style, over ones that do? It makes no sense at all.

NettoSuperstar! 26-11-2008 02:52 PM

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Oh no, how dare her fans vote for her! and how do you know she wont be good? bl***y hell you havn't even heard her yet!
Girth is looking for reasons to dislike her btw. He won't like her even if she gives a stellar performance so there's no point even trying there.
Do you honestly think thats true?

I thought her first performance was OK but since then I find my self puzzled at all you guys going bonkers over her. I couldn't see it. I looked and looked and looked and I still couldnt see it and I reckon I can spot a good singer when I see/hear one. Meanwhile, Alex was putting in some fine performance but I didnt see anywhere near the level of hysteria. I dont like hype, I dont like constant praise with no criticism and thus I thought it my duty to try and redress the balance. Thats what its about.
lol@ its your duty

Billy 26-11-2008 02:52 PM

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Originally posted by GiRTh
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Oh no, how dare her fans vote for her! and how do you know she wont be good? bl***y hell you havn't even heard her yet!
Girth is looking for reasons to dislike her btw. He won't like her even if she gives a stellar performance so there's no point even trying there.
Do you honestly think thats true?

I thought her first performance was OK but since then I find my self puzzled at all you guys going bonkers over her. I couldn't see it. I looked and looked and looked and I still couldnt see it and I reckon I can spot a good singer when I see/hear one. Meanwhile, Alex was putting in some fine performance but I didnt see anywhere near the level of hysteria. I dont like hype, I dont like constant praise with no criticism and thus I thought it my duty to try and redress the balance. Thats what its about.
I actually agree with the criticism bit. Diana needs critcism because she isn't perfect like the judges are making out, but it really does look like you try to find things to dislike about her :\ Every time your in the XF forum it is just to slate Diana, or at least it comes across that way.

hannah. 26-11-2008 02:52 PM

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Why is it that people seem to look for reasons to hate on Diana? You say she's boring and predictable but she's the only unique one there really apart from Ruth. JLS are a smartprice Boys 2 Men, Alexandra will end up a version of Leona Lewis and Beyonce but with a lot less success, Eoghan will make one album and disapear...Diana's probably one of the most unique talents ever on X Factor, shame she can't be appreciated for it since the vast majority of X factor viewers think Talent requires someone to sing through a machine...
Once again she's picked a slow song with just one instruemnt. Theres definitely a pattern forming here. Mind you, judging by last weeks performance as many as two instruments would drown out her weak vocals.
You say that like it's an insult? Do you expect her to do a different song every week? Cos her album isn;t going to be a collection of different styles is it? So why should it be now?
errr... maybe to show her versatility? All the other acts are managing a different style of song every week, and Alex was slated in the beginning for making obvious choices. I don't see why it's so different with Diana. Surely doing different genres is the whole point of having a different theme every week
If the whole point in themes was to do different genres, then don't you think that each theme would be a different genre?
I don't mean total different genres, but different styles at least. Fair enough she wants to stick to what she knows but it's just dull for her imo. I think she'd get more votes if she tried something different, because even if it wasn't as "good" as normal, people would think "oh wow, diana just tried a different style, good on her". A lot of people praised her in Disco Week because she tried something different, and it wasn't half as bad as a lot of people expected it to be.
Why would she do different styles when she knows they aren't going to work? For example, the past two themes have been Take That and Best of British. Why would she pick 2 songs that DON'T fit her style, over ones that do? It makes no sense at all.
To shut up people like me who thinks she's a one trick pony and will be completely boring once Britain gets over the "indie" singer-songwriter hysteria that's around at the moment.

XxShortyxX 26-11-2008 02:52 PM

Do you honestly think thats true?

I thought her first performance was OK but since then I find my self puzzled at all you guys going bonkers over her. I couldn't see it. I looked and looked and looked and I still couldnt see it and I reckon I can spot a good singer when I see/hear one. Meanwhile, Alex was putting in some fine performance but I didnt see anywhere near the level of hysteria. I dont like hype, I dont like constant praise with no criticism and thus I thought it my duty to try and redress the balance. Thats what its about. [/quote]


But htat's the thing, just because you think that it doesn't mean we are all going to think that, I think you need to realise some people like her, some people want her to win, like or not, a few backs I said Alex and Rachel were by far the best on the night. I luv Diana, I want her to win, I will be voting for her she is me fav, it's simple really.

GiRTh 26-11-2008 02:53 PM

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You say that like it's an insult? Do you expect her to do a different song every week? Cos her album isn;t going to be a collection of different styles is it? So why should it be now?
Its a singing contest and thus she should prove that she can sing a variety of songs in a variety of styles. She's still a long way from doing that.
Umm no, it's a singing contest, therefore she should prove she has what it takes to be a recording artist. Since when did that mean being able to sing every single genre imaginable? Oh wait it doesn't.
Let me enlighten you on somethng because you dont seem to be getting it. In a competition you have to compete. In a singng competition you have to be able to sing. end of. Not sing rock that would be a rock singing contest. Not sing blues cuz that would be a blues singing contest. Do you get it now?

X-factor has no genre boundaries thus I think its not too much to ask for the winner to have some kind of versatility.

Billy 26-11-2008 02:54 PM

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Why is it that people seem to look for reasons to hate on Diana? You say she's boring and predictable but she's the only unique one there really apart from Ruth. JLS are a smartprice Boys 2 Men, Alexandra will end up a version of Leona Lewis and Beyonce but with a lot less success, Eoghan will make one album and disapear...Diana's probably one of the most unique talents ever on X Factor, shame she can't be appreciated for it since the vast majority of X factor viewers think Talent requires someone to sing through a machine...
Once again she's picked a slow song with just one instruemnt. Theres definitely a pattern forming here. Mind you, judging by last weeks performance as many as two instruments would drown out her weak vocals.
You say that like it's an insult? Do you expect her to do a different song every week? Cos her album isn;t going to be a collection of different styles is it? So why should it be now?
errr... maybe to show her versatility? All the other acts are managing a different style of song every week, and Alex was slated in the beginning for making obvious choices. I don't see why it's so different with Diana. Surely doing different genres is the whole point of having a different theme every week
If the whole point in themes was to do different genres, then don't you think that each theme would be a different genre?
I don't mean total different genres, but different styles at least. Fair enough she wants to stick to what she knows but it's just dull for her imo. I think she'd get more votes if she tried something different, because even if it wasn't as "good" as normal, people would think "oh wow, diana just tried a different style, good on her". A lot of people praised her in Disco Week because she tried something different, and it wasn't half as bad as a lot of people expected it to be.
Why would she do different styles when she knows they aren't going to work? For example, the past two themes have been Take That and Best of British. Why would she pick 2 songs that DON'T fit her style, over ones that do? It makes no sense at all.
To shut up people like me who thinks she's a one trick pony and will be completely boring once Britain gets over the "indie" singer-songwriter hysteria that's around at the moment.
Why would she want to shut people up like you, by changing her style, when she has an army of fans who love her style the way it is?

GiRTh 26-11-2008 02:54 PM

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Oh no, how dare her fans vote for her! and how do you know she wont be good? bl***y hell you havn't even heard her yet!
Girth is looking for reasons to dislike her btw. He won't like her even if she gives a stellar performance so there's no point even trying there.
Do you honestly think thats true?

I thought her first performance was OK but since then I find my self puzzled at all you guys going bonkers over her. I couldn't see it. I looked and looked and looked and I still couldnt see it and I reckon I can spot a good singer when I see/hear one. Meanwhile, Alex was putting in some fine performance but I didnt see anywhere near the level of hysteria. I dont like hype, I dont like constant praise with no criticism and thus I thought it my duty to try and redress the balance. Thats what its about.
lol@ its your duty
Of couse its my duty.:whistle:

hannah. 26-11-2008 02:57 PM

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Why is it that people seem to look for reasons to hate on Diana? You say she's boring and predictable but she's the only unique one there really apart from Ruth. JLS are a smartprice Boys 2 Men, Alexandra will end up a version of Leona Lewis and Beyonce but with a lot less success, Eoghan will make one album and disapear...Diana's probably one of the most unique talents ever on X Factor, shame she can't be appreciated for it since the vast majority of X factor viewers think Talent requires someone to sing through a machine...
Once again she's picked a slow song with just one instruemnt. Theres definitely a pattern forming here. Mind you, judging by last weeks performance as many as two instruments would drown out her weak vocals.
You say that like it's an insult? Do you expect her to do a different song every week? Cos her album isn;t going to be a collection of different styles is it? So why should it be now?
errr... maybe to show her versatility? All the other acts are managing a different style of song every week, and Alex was slated in the beginning for making obvious choices. I don't see why it's so different with Diana. Surely doing different genres is the whole point of having a different theme every week
If the whole point in themes was to do different genres, then don't you think that each theme would be a different genre?
I don't mean total different genres, but different styles at least. Fair enough she wants to stick to what she knows but it's just dull for her imo. I think she'd get more votes if she tried something different, because even if it wasn't as "good" as normal, people would think "oh wow, diana just tried a different style, good on her". A lot of people praised her in Disco Week because she tried something different, and it wasn't half as bad as a lot of people expected it to be.
Why would she do different styles when she knows they aren't going to work? For example, the past two themes have been Take That and Best of British. Why would she pick 2 songs that DON'T fit her style, over ones that do? It makes no sense at all.
To shut up people like me who thinks she's a one trick pony and will be completely boring once Britain gets over the "indie" singer-songwriter hysteria that's around at the moment.
Why would she want to shut people up like you, by changing her style, when she has an army of fans who love her style the way it is?
Because she might make people respect her a bit more, and perhaps to practice keeping that army of fans interested when she starts to bore them, and is no longer so "original and quirky".

GiRTh 26-11-2008 02:57 PM

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The most famous Artists in the world can only sing the type of songs they sing, for example, could you see Celion D singing an Opera song? or a heavy mental song? no.
Celine Dion is a good enough singer to sing different genres.

XxShortyxX 26-11-2008 02:59 PM

At the end of the day if Diana brings out an Ablum it will have songs on there that she is comfortable with, they have to sing what they are comfortable with, it's like JLS the other week asinging Beatles, even Dannii said that wouldn't be on their Ablum.

GiRTh 26-11-2008 03:01 PM

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Originally posted by Billy21Every time your in the XF forum it is just to slate Diana, or at least it comes across that way.
Nothing could be further from the truth. I think she's a good singer but I dont understand the level of hytsteria that I'm seeing. If it seems like I'm constantly criticising its because I cant believe it when some of her fans still insist her recent performances have been good.

I said ages ago that Diana had already won the show. Now I think she's losing momentum based on her recent poor performances. I hate to say it but I think Eoghan is going to win.

Billy 26-11-2008 03:02 PM

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I actually agree with the criticism bit. Diana needs critcism because she isn't perfect like the judges are making out, but it really does look like you try to find things to dislike about her :\ Every time your in the XF forum it is just to slate Diana, or at least it comes across that way.
Nothing could be further from the truth. I think she's a good singer but I dont understand the level of hytsteria that I'm seeing. If it seems like I'm constantly criticising its because I cant believe it when some of her fans still insist her recent performances have been good.

I said ages ago that Diana had already won the show. Now I think she's losing momentum based on her recent poor performances.
I'd be the first person to admit that Yellow wasn't good, but I enjoyed Patience =\ It was her second weakest, but I still liked it.

XxShortyxX 26-11-2008 03:04 PM

And I have said Yellow wasn't good, however I like the song. But the rest of her perfroamances I have enjoyed.

LemonJam 26-11-2008 03:46 PM

-ignores entire argument-

Predictable.

supernoodles! 26-11-2008 03:47 PM

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Dee... Ewe...Double Elle.....DULL.

Another perfect song choice for Diana, just her and one instrument. Its really starting to rile me that this girl is going to win the contest. She has no range, no versatility and no power. X-Factor this year is a joke.

M X 26-11-2008 03:56 PM

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According to someone on DS, she is doing Everytime by Britney. Her American song is still to be confirmed.
I knew she would do Everytime! She'll be so good at it. :spin::spin2:

Z 26-11-2008 07:01 PM

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At the end of the day if Diana brings out an Ablum it will have songs on there that she is comfortable with, they have to sing what they are comfortable with, it's like JLS the other week asinging Beatles, even Dannii said that wouldn't be on their Ablum.

..Yeah, but they took a risk - it failed, but that's what taking risks is about. It makes their fans more protective of their act, because they sense that they are in danger and are more inclined to vote to save them; the whole vulnerability thing.


Whereas Diana is easily drowned out by the backing music, she sings in an acquired singing style that is evidently damaging her health, she's really pushed the boundaries of the themes given to her (Call Me in Disco Week? Only because it was brought out in that period of time, it's hardly a disco song) but at least she rose to the challenge and actually performed a song that nobody thought she'd pull off well. Well done to her for that. But since then she's sung badly but been praised by the judges for it, and bar times when she's HAD to change her style (Disco Week and Big Band week) she's sung the same style of songs - she's not taking any unnecessary risks, unlike every other act left in the competition who have sung risky songs and the gamble has or hasn't paid off, it doesn't really matter, they've done it.

Like GiRTh, I just don't want to see her win without A) being told when she's been bad and B) trying something out of her comfort zone. It's clear she's the chosen winner, and I don't disagree with that, I think she's a nice girl and I wouldn't object to her winning, I'd just like to see her try something different before she goes onto produce an album full of songs that are identical to the ones she sung on the X Factor - it'll bore people and she'll have no success beyond one album.


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