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bluehill 27-03-2009 04:07 PM

moreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee i want to see more

Conor 27-03-2009 11:02 PM

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I take it your doing inside the house as well?
Yep, but it will be a loooooooooong time before I begin posting any more house pics after tonight. :whistle:
I'm not sure I can wait that long Conor. (53 smillies and not one of them appropriate!)
lmao, don't worry, hopefully everything will be posted before the end of April :spin:


Finale plan:

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http://i41.tinypic.com/outn50.jpg

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- Interview area surrounded by crowd
- Sofa holds Ex HM's

Detailed eviction & finale written plans coming soon.

Zac 28-03-2009 07:17 AM

Again Conor, wow! I love how you've changed the set for the finale, you're idea's would really work. :thumbs2:

Conor 28-03-2009 11:46 AM

EDITED - Launch:

9.00pm - Starts with a video showing all the previous summer series. And ends with something like "Same old - Not this time" then 2 sec obscured teaser vids of the new housemates.

9.02pm - Video merges into the opening titles

9.03pm - Camera sweeps through both sets of crowds (At studio entrance and the house entrance) and ends up inside the set where Davina comes through the large door from the first crowd. Audience cheer and music is playing.

9.04pm - Davina goes through a few of the changes and another short video, displaying the changes airs.

9.06pm - Davina leaning over first floor of the new house to the camera below and begins the tour, ending at the sofas with an interview with the house designer and the exec producer.

9.14pm - Davina makes her way through the camera runs back to the crowd and asks a few questions to the public.

AD BREAK

9.16pm - A video showing this years audition process and who the public want to see in the house airs.

9.18 - A video of audition clips shows for the first housemate. They then arrives from a car in front of the first crowd and makes their way to the studio. They get 1 or 2 questions asked by Davina and make their way out the studio main exit to the house. Their main introductory VT then plays.

9.22pm - Second housemate arrives, same as before.

9.26pm - Third housemate arrives, same as before.

9.30pm - Fourth housemate arrives, same as before.

AD BREAK

9.35pm - Davina back on stage and reveals a little secret. A teaser for a major twist happening next Friday airs revealing a few clues and some obscure video footage.

9.40pm - Fifth housemate arrives, same as before.

9.44pm - Sixth housemate arrives, same as before.

9.48pm - Live footage from the house.

9.52pm - Seventh housemate arrives, same as before.

9.56pm - Eighth housemate arrives, same as before.

10.00pm - Ninth housemate arrives, same as before.

AD BREAK

10.03pm - Tenth housemate enters, same as before.

10.07pm - Eleventh housemate arrives, same as before.

10.11pm - Twelfth housemate arrives, same as before.

10.15 - Thirteenth housemate arrives, same as before.

AD BREAK

10.19pm - Live footage from the house.

10.23pm - Fourteenth housemate enters, same as before.

10.27pm - Fifteenth housemate enters, same as before.

10.30pm - Davina is standing on the walkway outside the studio, surrounded by the crowd, and says bye, leaving us with footage from the house where BB gives the HM's a short task.

10.35 - End titles roll.


Total duration: 1 hour 35mins
Start: 9.00pm
End: 10.35pm


When housemates are entering:

Each HM has a 4 minute segment.

1- 30secs: Audition VT
30secs - 1min 20: Enter studio
1min 20 - 2min: Few questions
2min - 2min 30: Enter house
2min 30 - 3min 30: Main VT
3min 30 - 4min: Live from house

Next, either format changes or written eviction plan.

MrGaryy 28-03-2009 03:16 PM

Hmm, it all seems pretty good, I actually am beginning to like the idea of the door being on ground level.

Brekkie 28-03-2009 03:54 PM

Has the studio been knocked down for the finale then? I'm a bit confused.

Also even for the most dedicated fan a 2 hour 40 minute launch show is far too long - and it's the casual viewers you need to be hooking back in. With no signs of any housemates, I fear most would have turned off within the first half hour.

IMO 90 minutes is about the maximum for a launch show - otherwise it'll just drag. To be fair it's one of the few things they actually get pretty much right at the moment - if anything the thing which would improve it most would be cutting the amount of time it takes to get the HMs in, not doubling it.


I do agree though with their VT playing after they've faced the crowd, rather than before.

Spike 28-03-2009 03:55 PM

I like the ideas for the launch but its way too long. At least 40mins- 1hour needs to come off that

Conor 28-03-2009 04:20 PM

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Originally posted by Brekkie
Has the studio been knocked down for the finale then? I'm a bit confused.

Also even for the most dedicated fan a 2 hour 40 minute launch show is far too long - and it's the casual viewers you need to be hooking back in. With no signs of any housemates, I fear most would have turned off within the first half hour.

IMO 90 minutes is about the maximum for a launch show - otherwise it'll just drag. To be fair it's one of the few things they actually get pretty much right at the moment - if anything the thing which would improve it most would be cutting the amount of time it takes to get the HMs in, not doubling it.


I do agree though with their VT playing after they've faced the crowd, rather than before.

Yep, studio has been knocked down, it was basically designed as a glorified shed anyway lol.


I read back and I agree, with you and Spike about the launch plan now. I'll tweak it a bit. I think I've been a bit leaniant on some of the timing anyway.

Conor 28-03-2009 04:57 PM

Few more graphics. What they mean will become clearer soon - I want to see if they have the same mystery effect they would hopefully have if really put on TV in May.

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A few opening title graphics:

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http://i44.tinypic.com/bdw74k.jpg

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Sorry about todays quality of work - Its basically been crap.

Sam! 28-03-2009 04:57 PM

They're so fresh and nice looking Conor! I love them!

MrGaryy 28-03-2009 05:04 PM

I like it for the most part. One thing I would note is perhaps the language used in the ads is a little . . .amatuer sounding?

Conor 28-03-2009 05:10 PM

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Originally posted by MrGaryy
I like it for the most part. One thing I would note is perhaps the language used in the ads is a little . . .amatuer sounding?
Probably down to my shiz English more than anything else lmao

Zac 28-03-2009 05:17 PM

Wow Conor, love the graphics but think the launch is just slightly long.

JOSHUAH! 28-03-2009 05:18 PM

I really like the BBAU influence, they look very much like the old titles from 2004-05? or somewhere around that time. It all looks so fresh and appealing and

It's nice to see a major difference, welldone Conor. :hello:

Conor 28-03-2009 05:20 PM

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Originally posted by JOSHUAH!
I really like the BBAU influence, they look very much like the old titles from 2004-05? or somewhere around that time. It all looks so fresh and appealing and

It's nice to see a major difference, welldone Conor. :hello:
Yep, I think it's 2004. They're my fav BB opening titles from anywhere.

MrGaryy 28-03-2009 05:22 PM

Yes it definitely is very BB04 inspired. Particularly the use of the person symbol lol thats used on toilets. and the Blue and pink color scheme too.

Brekkie 28-03-2009 08:20 PM

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Originally posted by Conor
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Originally posted by Brekkie
Has the studio been knocked down for the finale then? I'm a bit confused.
Yep, studio has been knocked down, it was basically designed as a glorified shed anyway lol.
So you cheated then. :laugh:

I'd personally like the studio back for the final due to the morons who don't show even the winner respect some years, and I think it's important for the evictees to have somewhere a bit calmer to talk to Davina.

That said if you had kept the studio I probably wouldn't have used it for the interviews - it would be more a VIP area where the finalists are reunited with both F&F and ex-housemates before moving out to the front of the studio where the big finale crowd, and some sort of stage, would await them.


Love the look of the opening titles and the prize money teaser - though C4 wouldn't get away with pleading poverty on one hand and offering £1m on the other! In recent years I've said I'd up the jackpot to £250,000 - but now times are tougher that £100,000 seems to be worth a lot more than it was a couple of years ago.

Conor 29-03-2009 01:51 PM

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Originally posted by Brekkie
Quote:

Originally posted by Conor
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Originally posted by Brekkie
Has the studio been knocked down for the finale then? I'm a bit confused.
Yep, studio has been knocked down, it was basically designed as a glorified shed anyway lol.
So you cheated then. :laugh:

I'd personally like the studio back for the final due to the morons who don't show even the winner respect some years, and I think it's important for the evictees to have somewhere a bit calmer to talk to Davina.

That said if you had kept the studio I probably wouldn't have used it for the interviews - it would be more a VIP area where the finalists are reunited with both F&F and ex-housemates before moving out to the front of the studio where the big finale crowd, and some sort of stage, would await them.


Love the look of the opening titles and the prize money teaser - though C4 wouldn't get away with pleading poverty on one hand and offering £1m on the other! In recent years I've said I'd up the jackpot to £250,000 - but now times are tougher that £100,000 seems to be worth a lot more than it was a couple of years ago.
lol yeah I cheated :tongue:

I love the sound of your studio on the final idea though, wish I'd thought of that :(


Scheduling (C4)

Monday: 10.00pm - 10.45pm: Highlight show

Tuesday: 10.00pm - 11.00pm: Highlight/Nomination show - Extended

Wednesday: 10.00pm - 10.45pm: Highlight show

Thursday: 10.00pm - 10.45pm: Highlight show

Friday: 10.00pm - 11.00pm: Eviction

Sunday: 9.00pm - 10.00pm: Highlight show (Fri/Sat highlights) - Extended
8.00pm - 9.00pm: BBLB


Scheduling (E4)

Monday- Thursday: 12.00am - 6.00am: - BB Live
6.20pm - 7.00pm: - BBLB
4.30pm - 6.30pm: - BB Live
6.30pm - 7.15pm: - BB Highlights (R)

Note: On Tuesdays 4.30pm - 6.30pm slot is occupied by Nominations Uncut.

Note: On Thursdays BBLB will air as a psychology show.

Friday: - 12.00am - 6.00am: - BB Live
6.20pm - 7.00pm: - BBLB
4.50pm - 5.35pm: - BB Highlights (R)
8.00pm - 1.00am: - BB Live

Saturday: - 2.00pm - 2.50pm: - BBLB - Psychology show
2.50 - 3.35 - DR Uncut
4.30pm - 6.30pm: - BB Live
6.30pm - 8.30pm - BB Omnibus
12.00am - 4.30am - BB Live

Sunday: - 2.00pm - 6.00pm: - BB Live
6.00pm - 7.00pm: - BBLB - Extended Sunday show.
7.40 - 9.40 BB Omnibus (R)
12.00am - 4.30am - BB Live


- BB Live returns on red button with access to 5 cameras. It also re-appears online with a subscription.

- BBBM is axed, as is BB's Big Ears.

- Video's unblocked from Youtube and a better C4 online service, with an official BB site separate from C4, including an insiders blog etc.

- Evictions focus on the evictee. Highlights from Friday will air on a combined Sunday show. (Hour long)

- Highlight shows cut to 45 minutes and on Tuesday a Nominations uncut show will air directly after.

- Fixed 10.00pm slot for Highlight shows.

- BBLB will air on Tuesdays and Sundays with a BBBB format (Psychology show)

Sam! 29-03-2009 01:53 PM

I'm not sure If I like highlights being at 10. Specially on Tuesday with later nominations.

Brekkie 29-03-2009 02:46 PM

Any true BB fan knows 10pm is the best place for highlights. 2pm for BBLB though - no way - 6pm is too early for some, and I think BBLB needs to move away from any idea that it's for the kids. Scheduling seems rather erratic too.

Not sure about your nominations scheduling either - I think if given a decent edit it can easily be incorporated into the main show, but I'll reserve judgement until you give us the info on your nominations format. Worth noting though up until BB4 the producers managed to show every single nomination within a half-hour show, taking up no more than 10 minutes. Nowadays they spend twice as long in an hour-long show only showing around half of the nominations.

Sam! 29-03-2009 02:52 PM

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Originally posted by Brekkie
Any true BB fan knows 10pm is the best place for highlights. 2pm for BBLB though - no way - 6pm is too early for some, and I think BBLB needs to move away from any idea that it's for the kids. Scheduling seems rather erratic too.

Not sure about your nominations scheduling either - I think if given a decent edit it can easily be incorporated into the main show, but I'll reserve judgement until you give us the info on your nominations format. Worth noting though up until BB4 the producers managed to show every single nomination within a half-hour show, taking up no more than 10 minutes. Nowadays they spend twice as long in an hour-long show only showing around half of the nominations.
Yeh I agree about BBLB. Wayy too early.

Spike 29-03-2009 03:03 PM

I like the highlights scheduling but the Tuesday show could just be extended until 11:00pm and still fit nominations in
BBLB needs a much later slot, 6pm or 7pm would do
I love the eviction scheduling, that would increase ratings on a Friday

Conor 29-03-2009 03:53 PM

BBLB slot updated: Fixed 7.00pm - 7.40pm slot.

Also, Tuesdays would still have nominations included in the highlights show, but the dedicated nomination show after would show extended footage and focus solely on the nominations that week for a more indepth viewing.

Brekkie 29-03-2009 06:37 PM

Be realistic Conor - they're certainly not going to move C4 News to accomodate BBLB, or first look Hollyoaks on E4 for that matter.

If the nominations are in the main show in some form, however badly edited, the extra show should be over on E4, not on C4.

Spike 29-03-2009 06:58 PM

Yeah I also think the extra nominations show on Tuesday should be moved to E4 and replace nominations uncut.


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