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Marc 17-07-2009 10:48 AM

I reckon straight men are the ones who have the most problem with gay men.
Though I don't have a problem with them what so ever.

Though its weird that gay clubs ban straight men.. ******ing homo's LOL I joke!

Rodrigo2Win 17-07-2009 11:44 AM

**** thread.

a_2009 17-07-2009 03:01 PM

It is a bit frustrating if your out for a bit of banter and the place is full of fag hags :wink:

I guess the whole point of a gay bar, is its a social place where people who are in a minority are able to go and not get hassled. Should straight people be turned away, if they're with their mates and just out for a drink and a dance....then the more the merrier.

On the other hand i've had experiences in 'straight' bars just taking it easy with the other half and had so much hassle, fella's coming up taking pictures....it feels like your part of some freak show....

30stone 17-07-2009 04:02 PM

My brother and his mate went to a gay club, just to cause trouble..

Went in, my brother acting as his mates bodyguard not letting people touch him.

Then after pushing people around the bouncers told em to leave, so they did and pushed a grundon infront of the doors.

So i can understand it.

But yeh i suppose for the majority of people who are straight and just going in for a drink im sure they would be pissed off..

keithafc 05-08-2009 01:09 AM

What do they do?

'Ok form two lines, the pussy line and the cock line'.

Just get on with it. I don't believe in straight or gay club's or anything like that. It's a club which serves food and drink, go in and enjoy yourself. Enough of this nonsense.

Tom 05-08-2009 01:17 AM

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Originally posted by Marcjswp
I reckon straight men are the ones who have the most problem with gay men.
Though I don't have a problem with them what so ever.

Though its weird that gay clubs ban straight men.. ******ing homo's LOL I joke!
A lot of gay clubs in Manchester let straight people in

Hedgie 05-08-2009 03:22 PM

Refusing entrance to straight people is downright offensive in my eyes. If a club has made it abundantly clear that it is gay friendly, then anyone who goes in there should expect a come on by someone of the same sex.
Refusing admission to straight people seeks only to widen the gap between the gay/straight culture. It alienates and causes exclusivity. This is making a problem, not helping to solve one.

by the way...is there a gay test? how on earth would they monitor it :shrug: :conf:

letmein 06-08-2009 07:38 AM

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Considering some of the posts today, and general experiences from my life when i lived in London/Brighton/Exeter I want to put this discussion to the forum.



How come a gay club refuses entry to straight people and is allowed to do that, but if a straight club did it to a gay person it would be a form of homophobia?


Surely the gay clubs are a bit Heterophobic?

Some people have spoke to say it's because straights cause trouble, but most straight people I know have no issue, and Gay men are just as likely to cause a fight or bitch fest.


Gay pride is all about celebrating gay's being equals, yet I sometimes find the 'Gay world' a bit hypocritcal because sometimes we don't treat others as equals???


What's the forums opinions on this (please no spats or arguments, just people's opinions). :thumbs:
I don't know about you but I have never seen a club that turns away straight people... these clubs and events are where gay people can go and celebrate themselves and feel safe... being able to kiss in a club and not get beat up.
If straight people want to go nothing is stopping them, seriously, have you seen straight people being turned away?

Yep, my mate once got turned away for 'looking too straight'. He got well pissy, because he was gay, but the bouncers wouldn't believe him.
That's a weird ass club. Every gay club I know let's anyone who wants to go in, in.:conf:

Marc 06-08-2009 07:40 AM

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Originally posted by Marcjswp
I reckon straight men are the ones who have the most problem with gay men.
Though I don't have a problem with them what so ever.

Though its weird that gay clubs ban straight men.. ******ing homo's LOL I joke!
A lot of gay clubs in Manchester let straight people in
Nah I meant the ones who do.. tis weird.

Captain.Remy 06-08-2009 07:44 AM

It's basically the same thing that happens between white and black people: If a white man makes a comment about a black guy, it's racism. However, if a black guy makes a comment on a white guy or start an argument only because he's white (I've seen that) then it's fine.

Same thing between heteros and gays.

As for gay clubs, I've been in one once, just for fun and everyone was looking at us like we were intruders or bad people. I don't even understand the whole point of having a club only for gays. I'm sure a club restricted to straight people would be see as shocking and homophobic.

letmein 07-08-2009 04:24 AM

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Originally posted by Captain.Remy
It's basically the same thing that happens between white and black people: If a white man makes a comment about a black guy, it's racism. However, if a black guy makes a comment on a black guy or start an argument only because he's white (I've seen that) then it's fine.

Same thing between heteros and gays.

As for gay clubs, I've been in one once, just for fun and everyone was looking at us like we were intruders or bad people. I don't even understand the whole point of having a club only for gays. I'm sure a club restricted to straight people would be see as shocking and homophobic.
Oh brother. :rolleyes:

Twilight 07-08-2009 04:28 AM

Omg i have to agree with Remy

Twilight 07-08-2009 04:29 AM

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Originally posted by letmein
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Originally posted by Captain.Remy
It's basically the same thing that happens between white and black people: If a white man makes a comment about a black guy, it's racism. However, if a black guy makes a comment on a black guy or start an argument only because he's white (I've seen that) then it's fine.

Same thing between heteros and gays.

As for gay clubs, I've been in one once, just for fun and everyone was looking at us like we were intruders or bad people. I don't even understand the whole point of having a club only for gays. I'm sure a club restricted to straight people would be see as shocking and homophobic.
Oh brother. :rolleyes:
What??

Captain.Remy 07-08-2009 04:32 AM

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Oh brother. :rolleyes:
Do you mind elaborating instead of making shitty comments with no substance whatsoever ?

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Omg i have to agree with Remy
:shocked::shocked: :hugesmile:

Twilight 07-08-2009 05:03 AM

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Originally posted by letmein
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Originally posted by Captain.Remy
It's basically the same thing that happens between white and black people: If a white man makes a comment about a black guy, it's racism. However, if a black guy makes a comment on a black guy or start an argument only because he's white (I've seen that) then it's fine.

Same thing between heteros and gays.

As for gay clubs, I've been in one once, just for fun and everyone was looking at us like we were intruders or bad people. I don't even understand the whole point of having a club only for gays. I'm sure a club restricted to straight people would be see as shocking and homophobic.
Oh brother. :rolleyes:
What??

Tom 07-08-2009 06:32 PM

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Originally posted by Marcjswp
I reckon straight men are the ones who have the most problem with gay men.
Though I don't have a problem with them what so ever.

Though its weird that gay clubs ban straight men.. ******ing homo's LOL I joke!
A lot of gay clubs in Manchester let straight people in
Nah I meant the ones who do.. tis weird.
Hmm not really. Gay people are never really welcome in a lot of straight clubs and I expect gay people can have more peace of mind in a gay club, rather than watching over their shoulder for homophobes in a straight club. Some straight people might wanna go into a gay club to cause trouble

Hedgie 08-08-2009 03:00 PM

All bars and clubs are within their legal rights to refuse entrance to anyone, without having to give a reason. Why would any club advertise that it refuses admittance to straight people, risking getting itself into deep water legally, when they have a perfectly good law abiding way of refusing entrance. Discriminate if you can see someone is being a tit, not on sexual orientation. That's as bad as homophobia.

xDramatick 08-08-2009 03:16 PM

Gay people need gay clubs. A straight person could go to any non-specific club with their partner and not get hassled. A homosexual couple on the other hand would more likely than not, receive stares or comments. Obviously this isn't true for everyone, but as a generalization. That's why gay clubs exist. So homosexual people may be themselves, along with any straight, open-minded people who just want a good time.
I may not be legal to go clubbing yet and therefore can't speak much, however my boyfriend is 25, and has had lots of experience with clubs, pubs and bars, and he's told me about his nights out in the past. He's rarely seen trouble in gay clubs, whereas he's received abuse in non-specific clubs. His brother's straight, the majority of his mates are straight, they all go to gay clubs with him, no problem. They've never had any issues with homosexuals, apart from the odd drunk gay hitting on them, but all they do is reassure them they're straight, or snog a female friend. hahaha.

idk, i just REALLY hate when people say there's no need for gay clubs, bars, pubs, or even gay prides.
imagine if it was the other way around, and heterosexuality was the minority. you had to be careful where you kiss anyone of the opposite sex in fear you'd get abuse.
okay, so i totally stole that last bit from a youtube video about homophobia but it's nonetheless true.

Fom 08-08-2009 03:27 PM

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Originally posted by 30stone
My brother and his mate went to a gay club, just to cause trouble..

Went in, my brother acting as his mates bodyguard not letting people touch him.

Then after pushing people around the bouncers told em to leave, so they did and pushed a grundon infront of the doors.

So i can understand it.

But yeh i suppose for the majority of people who are straight and just going in for a drink im sure they would be p****d off..
Yeh this explains bouncers actions a lot, bouncers are given specific things to follow, no trackies, no hats, no big crowds, no young, no old, no ugly. It is a club and it is where people go for a certain thing, wether that be Drum and Bass or to celebrate and be proud of their sexuality which is often looked down on.

It is so easy for a gay person to feel intimidated by a straight person, they go there to have a good time not to be stared at as if its abnormal, therefore anyone who is causing trouble or looks like they could after a few drinks are turned away. Its what clubs do, you get turned away if they dont want you in. If you are walking to the bar/club sniggering at the guys clothes, or gauping at stupid things then you will be turned away. Clubs are for a good time... gay people go to gay clubs to have a good time without feeling like what they are doing is abnormal which is how they feel everywhere else in the world.

I never quite understood why straight people get so frustrated about it, just let gay people have their fun... are you so desperate to go into a gay club? And as Tom says, most gay clubs in Manchester let any sexuality in.


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