...and some tit always has to play the "PC gone mad" card.

I mentioned race, sexual orientation and geographical origin there. Why did you mention race in particular?

My point is just that saying something out of a person's earshot does not excuse it as free speech.

a girl can hope:cheer: lol

:whistle::joker:

well if it was in the real world and not on tv she would never hear it or find out about it so whats the difference?:dance2::dog:

You said that the women in question are generally ugly. That is hardly true, and that is my point.

Has anyone stopped to think that maybe Hira would be getting a bit turned on if she heard what Marcus had said?

Well that's true.
But it was on TV and she probably will get to find out.

Because it was the first word you used. And since you all reckon he was speaking of Hira, a racist comment would be the one you were on about, not homophobic, unless she is a closet lesbian. Which I doubt.

Umm I quite doubt that somehow...

:thumbs: At last, some common sense. :xyxwave:

God forbid, should it ever happen to you - remember what you said and don't expect sympathy!

Spot on they know the score when they go into BB they know that there will be all types from all walks of life if they cant deal with it they shouldnt go on it - its just that their hunger for fame is far greater at the time

By far the best post of this thread.

Some people just have to make a mountain out of a molehill though. Bless them.

THEY are the ones with the mentality of 14 year olds, though that may be insulting to 14 year olds...

oh, so THEY'VE got it all wrong, not you? All the 3rd wave feminists have got it wrong just cos they dont agree with your outdated/uptight views.

Nearly all cotemporary feminists dismiss the kind of feminism you seem to be spouting here as being female-centric, gender devisive and driven by MISANDRY.

Get real, get with it and chill out.

I doubt that too.

But my point was still a general one about free speech not excusing lack of respect.

Why not?

She's not a lesbian.

i know what your sayin but the whole point of big brother is seeing how people REALLY behave in life therefore its termed as a REALITY show... therefore in real life hira would never hear these comments... ok?:eureka:

Doubt she's into creeps - too sensible and too classy!

marcus might be funny to some under the age of 16 but im sure people of his own age would be aghast at his behaviour

I just dont think marcus would be her type somehow...

I dont know why, I just find it hard to picture them together :laugh:

How would she know he's a creep? She can't even understand the concept of a secret task.

Exactly!!:thumbs:

Im not under 16.

And my father in law loves him to bits, and he is 59!!! Says he just says what men in genral are thinking most of the time.

So that point is bull.

i am Not agast.

beauty is in the eye of the beholder innit,,, the uglies have got to get laid too:dance:

30 year old mother of 3 girls here. I think your assumption may be way off. He has intelligence, he questions the system and he makes fools out of social stereotypes. Just because it isn't your humor, it doesn't mean he is puerile.

Oh no its not that.

I actually dont think he is as ugly as he is made out to be, quite average I think, if he lost the ridiculous hair and the sideburns.

I just cant see them connecting, as such...the are too unlike in character

No, not really. But you've got a great line in Smileys so I give up.

And besides which, I've got to get to my Politically Correct, In the closet, uptight, repressed blokes who like to slip Rohypnol into womens' drinks meeting... actually, I've always wanted to be accused of being PC, I've achieved my lifetime ambition, the irony is almost too much.

Ah come on.... I've heard a lot worse comming out my male friends mouths... Its just a bit of banter.... :shrug::shrug:

I know after a few drinks me and my girlfriends have said a lot worse.....:blush2:

:laugh3: i just realized tham Loomy may have somekinda mental problems

Loomey - I thought you held up your side of the argument very well - despite so many ganging up on you! I got a bit of that yesterday - so know what it's like! Well done:thumbs:

have a goot time y'all:cheer2:

i like you :flowers: and your dad :thumbs2:

blue, yes there are as many 'Islams' as there are Islamic nations. The Islam of Saudi is very different from the Islam of Malaysia. So, yes, defining what is 'strict' is not easily achieved.

However, it is certainly true that many Islamic cultures would most certainly prevent Hira from entering that house. The fact that she is in there would suggest what we in the west would percieve as more 'relaxed' interpretation and parctice of Islam. This being the case i find acceptable that Hirs has to 'put up with' western liberal behaviour from the other housemates no matter how incongrous such behaviour may be to Islamic practice and etc.

ah! Loomy is David fan! If i'm not wrong, he might be even his friend. thats why all these lunatic attacks against marcus

My dad in law...kind of, my fiances dad.

My own dad cant stand BB, says they are all freaks :joker:

And here was me sticking up for David yesterday! :bored:

lol ok, did read that wrong :joker: but anyway :kiss: