Just watched part 2 and OMG that woman is horrible, I hope Marcus stays because like him or not (and up to now I didnt like him) he tells it like it is

Yes I thought she was a good actress but can't do the basic cry scene properly. All she is doing is screwing her face up and dabbing with her tissue! She is the fake:conf2:

PART 3 http://www.mrmarky.co.uk/index.php?o...article&id=113

Oh you're all going to love Marcus by the end... :hello:

LOL very "strong and intelligent" she does not like what she hears so she turns on the tears and calls it bullying?? Marcus was calm, his body language was passive, his voice not raised and he said absolutely nothing offensive. She simply did not like what he said. He was spot on with his observation about her self-image being cast in stone, and no evidence to the contrary will be noticed by her. She calls herself a positive person and so whatever she does she will believe it by telling everyone including herself. That is self-delusion.

Spot on, dudey. She is just a giant ball of contradiction wrapped in a human looking shell. The only way Marcus could've improved his analysis would've been to bring up how she did the exact same thing she did to him then (calling him out for bullying) as she did to David. When she doesn't like what people are saying this seems to be her escape clause.

At the end of part 2 when bea went "are you happy now", to marcus, did anyone want him to say yes?

i think freddie is definatly going now :sad:

If I hear Bea say the word "negativity" again...

Oh this is amazing! She is in floods of crocodile tears (invisible ones at that) and says to Marcus "If you can't take it, don't give it out" !! The gall of the woman!

BTW - Many, many thanks to the OP for posting this, it is hugely appreciated. It seems I switched off just a few minutes too soon last night and missed all this.

Good work! :thumbs:

Ok, while I feel that Charlie has a blatant agenda in his attack of Freddie, I do understand slightly where he's coming from. What did Freddie think would come of him getting involved? Silly move.

same here, and "I'm really, really upset!"

"Mindlessly horrible to people", sounds like a fairly accurate characterisation.

And what the hell is it with Bea saying, "If you can't take it then don't dish it out"? She's got a brass neck, I'll say that.

Charlie playing the mum card once again............

Charlie's voice... :bored:

Charlie is driving me crazy. He never stops trying to talk over the top of people.

Freddie should have stayed well out of it. However, I can sort of understand why he might react to the line "If you can't take it then don't dish it out".

what a nasty piece of work Charlie is too

he picks one word and then launches an attack based on assumptions ... and now he is saying he is "really, really upset"!

Why did Freddie get out of bed though? just to argue? it seems a little childish of him. I hate everyone in there!!1 arrrghhhh

The final clip...PART 4 http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xa5...pt4_shortfilms

Marcus destroyed her last night without even trying.

Charlie and Bea, somebody pass the sick bucket, I can't take much more !!

Marcus will win this year

:thumbs:

hahaha how dramatic was the "do you feel better now!?"
and all freddie laughed at was "If you cant take it dont gie it out" not particularly laughing at her crying or anything

charlie really annoys me in this

Freddie was laughing at the situation and how big of a hypocrite Bea really is, not at her directly being upset.

well as much as i see your point,freddie's "silly move" was on impulse,so to jump on a knee jerk reaction is a little mean anyway,but heres the truth,why is it okay for bea to completely character assasinate freddie calling him a twat and what not,yet freddie scoffs at one comment and he gets bombarded with abuse and guilt trips?

i found it funny myself on so many levels,bea not thinking the comments made about freddie were mindlessly horrible as marcus put it,charlie having a go at freddie for "ganging up" on bea yet he had no issue with it when his little clique did much the same to freddie (the night when noirin was debating whether to starve herself) infact that night,charlie got stuck in himself while kris told freddie to shut the **** up and lisa ripped a few chunks out of him..

im just hoping this gets shown tonight with no sense of bias on any side,hopefully this will be aired tonight for what it is,bea's amatuer dramatics and charlies knight in shining armour routine..

um what does it ALWAYS turn to freddies fault for eerything!? he didnt do anything really

Bea is ridiculous and her tears are becoming annoying and predictable :rolleyes:

why does charlie talk so fast and over people? he doesn't listen at all.

Apparently, Charlie has never seen Bea being negative. Astounding. I think he must be walking around the House with a bag over his head and a pair of ear-muffs on.

I must be watching different footage. I'm glad that Marcus challenged Bea but he should never have apologised to her.

Why didn't Marcus challenge Charlie when he was attacking Freddie, as he said he would do? Only the other day he criticised Siavash for not speaking up for Freddie when Bea was going at him when they were both in bed. Charlie had to mention Freddie being a favourite because it's driving him mad.

I thought Marcus was going to put her in her place; it's all a little mealy mouthed so far. Let's see what happens in part 4...

this is what is being misunderstood by most,he did not get out of bed to argue,infact he simply laughed at something bea had said as he saw the hypocrisy in it just as we do,when charlie began barking at him he riled freddie up,so freddie jumped out to speak about it..

charlie was relentless until freddie got out of bed saying "go to bed freddie,you idiot" and what not,then when freddie came to defend himself as to why he laughed,charlie ripped chunks out of him and would not let him get a word in edge ways..

be under no illusions,charlie was the reason freddie got up.nothing more

Before this I wanted Charlie to win but not now, while I was watching that I was shouting "shut up Charlie"

Bea to Marcus: "If you want to talk about negativity maybe you should look at yourself. I've been a really good friend to you" says she who nominated Marcus.

I told you, front her out and she crumbles the woman is abhorrent.


How the fcukk he didn't tw@t Charlie and drown the biatch is beyond me.


Major Props to Marcus !!!!

Exactly! Why has Freddie got to do what other people tell him and why has he got to be a punch bag in order for people to like him? Charlie's behaviour was disgusting and I would have liked Marcus to have said something to him, even if it was after Freddie went to bed.

I'm not showing any bias in my question.... it's a valid point. Freddie shouldn't have bothered exchanging words with Charlie when it was perfectly clear that it wasn't necessary in this case to involve himself in the argument.

I never drew a comparison between the differing sides; it's a pointless exercise considering that I never suggested that one was worse than the other.

My whole reason for commenting is that Marcus had told Bea that she shouldn't involve Freddie in their argument. It would have been far more prudent for him to just lie back in his bed and smile over the whole spectacle. No value in going out there.