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Alf 02-02-2010 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by 30stone (Post 2946655)
Wayne bridge will most likely leave..

We can bring in possibly Kieran gibbs to replace him..
As we all know Cole is above Bridge anyway.

We lost terry who do we bring in..?

gibbs can get to the back of the que, leighton baines comes first

Wildcat! 02-02-2010 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 2946598)
dont forget that prem football players are really just cab drivers who are very good at football.

terry is an oik, a classic example of poor loveless upbringing, a spiritual vacuum filled with material desire, what you get when you worship money.

The England football team get what they represent and the spineless FA will prevaricate.

Obviously if he really was a captain, he would resign.

#]One think, that most american pro athletes have thats unique. Most of the pros are drafted out of college. So other than the athletes coming from europe, modt of them are college graduates, from playing in the NCAA. I think the UK should develop university level football leagues. I am surprised that it doesnt exist.

Enid 02-02-2010 01:17 PM

Didn't he win dad of the year or something? I'd be absolutely mortified if I was the wife or kid.

He is going to get stripped, but at least now that this is in the spotlight, there's less pressure on the team to win.

rapunza1977 02-02-2010 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by setanta (Post 2946658)
You see, this is the mental thing about the attitude that's being shown on here: It seems to me that alot of people are defending Terry because of his high profile. I wonder how you'd react to news of a fringe player behaving in this manner. Chances are you'd be telling us that he should be out of the team.

If Bridge had done it to Terry he'd be out the door immediately. That's crazy.


?? how can you say that....................people have affairs - one nights stands behind partners back all the time - condoning nothing, do they get sacked? No - they have to deal with it..........which these guys will do ..... JT should not be asked to leave his position because of it.........they did not sack Sven when he was playing away..it's ludicrous and a complete media frenzy, as I said before, I bet Toni Poole will not leave JT

Crimson Dynamo 02-02-2010 01:20 PM

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Alf 02-02-2010 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by setanta (Post 2946658)
You see, this is the mental thing about the attitude that's being shown on here: It seems to me that alot of people are defending Terry because of his high profile. I wonder how you'd react to news of a fringe player behaving in this manner. Chances are you'd be telling us that he should be out of the team.

If Bridge had done it to Terry he'd be out the door immediately. That's crazy.

i have no doubt that fringe players do act in this manner, just that the high profile players make for better fish and chip paper, if it was lets say mark noble who did this, nobody would even care and he is the former england u21 captain

Wildcat! 02-02-2010 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Enid (Post 2946663)
Didn't he win dad of the year or something? I'd be absolutely mortified if I was the wife or kid.

He is going to get stripped, but at least now that this is in the spotlight, there's less pressure on the team to win.

Fair enough, but it shouldnt have any effect on the football field. As a matter of fact, it usually means the player focuses a lot more on the field, when he is dealing with off field issues. Thats speaking from things that I have observed.

Tom4784 02-02-2010 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 2946614)
so what if he was done for child computer porn?

What a silly point, that'd be different because that's a crime and a serious one at that. Cheating's not illegal, immoral yes but it's their problem not ours.

Like somebody else said the world cup brings money into this country but it also brings England together. The community spirit, the hope the joy of a goal ETC. The World cup is good for morale of the country so why hurt our chances because of one person's personal problems? He obviously can leave them outside the stadium and so should we. When he plays football that is all that matters. I'm not condoning him cheating I'm just saying that he's good at what he does and punishing him for something that doesn't concern us is only punishing ourselves in the long run.

He's recieving a roasting from the media already and his marriage is probably over, what more do you want? Blood?

setanta 02-02-2010 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by rapunza1977 (Post 2946667)
?? how can you say that....................people have affairs - one nights stands behind partners back all the time - condoning nothing, do they get sacked? No - they have to deal with it..........which these guys will do ..... JT should not be asked to leave his position because of it.........they did not sack Sven when he was playing away..it's ludicrous and a complete media frenzy, as I said before, I bet Toni Poole will not leave JT

Wayne Bridge wouldn't be defended as strongly in here if the roles were reversed. That's fairly obvious to me.

Terry was f£cking his friend's girlfriend... his friend being a teammate too and he's the captain. Come on.

setanta 02-02-2010 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by wannashag (Post 2946674)
i have no doubt that fringe players do act in this manner, just that the high profile players make for better fish and chip paper, if it was lets say mark noble who did this, nobody would even care and he is the former england u21 captain

Yes, you wouldn't care and they'd be out the door. Do you not see the blinkered view you have of it all just because of the high profile that Terry has as a footballer?

Crimson Dynamo 02-02-2010 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 2946686)
What a silly point, that'd be different because that's a crime and a serious one at that. Cheating's not illegal, immoral yes but it's their problem not ours.

Like somebody else said the world cup brings money into this country but it also brings England together. The community spirit, the hope the joy of a goal ETC. The World cup is good for morale of the country so why hurt our chances because of one person's personal problems? He obviously can leave them outside the stadium and so should we. When he plays football that is all that matters. I'm not condoning him cheating I'm just saying that he's good at what he does and punishing him for something that doesn't concern us is only punishing ourselves in the long run.

He's recieving a roasting from the media already and his marriage is probably over, what more do you want? Blood?

i am just ascertaining what the ceiling is?

so having criminal parents, one a drug dealer, and cheating on partners and team mates seems to be ok. so how far does one need to go?

Wildcat! 02-02-2010 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 2946686)
What a silly point, that'd be different because that's a crime and a serious one at that. Cheating's not illegal, immoral yes but it's their problem not ours.

Like somebody else said the world cup brings money into this country but it also brings England together. The community spirit, the hope the joy of a goal ETC. The World cup is good for morale of the country so why hurt our chances because of one person's personal problems? He obviously can leave them outside the stadium and so should we. When he plays football that is all that matters. I'm not condoning him cheating I'm just saying that he's good at what he does and punishing him for something that doesn't concern us is only punishing ourselves in the long run.

He's recieving a roasting from the media already and his marriage is probably over, what more do you want? Blood?


I could not have put it any better. Pretty much how I feel about the whole thing.

WOMBAI 02-02-2010 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 2946696)
i am just ascertaining what the ceiling is?

so having criminal parents, one a drug dealer, and cheating on partners and team mates seems to be ok. so how far does one need to go?

You can't hold someone responsible for what their parents do - that IS ridiculous!

Tom4784 02-02-2010 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 2946696)
i am just ascertaining what the ceiling is?

so having criminal parents, one a drug dealer, and cheating on partners and team mates seems to be ok. so how far does one need to go?

There's a difference between crime and personal problems, if someone you didn't know who lived in your town cheated on someone would you bay for their blood and try to get them sacked? No you'd leave them to it. Personal problems should be just that, personal. The who family's gonna suffer because of this and He's definately gonna get the worst, why strip him of a title he's good at and harm our own chances for personal troubles.

Now if he was a criminal that would be different, and I don't really need to go into details as a baboon could see why.

That point about the parents confuses me, are you saying he's to blame for having criminal parents? If it is then it's another ridiculous point, If your parents have made bad choices in life then you should learn from their mistakes and experiences and forge a different path.

rapunza1977 02-02-2010 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by WOMBAI (Post 2946707)
You can't hold someone responsible for what their parents do - that IS ridiculous!

em .............. no I believe you can

I always blame the parents..................:dance:

Wildcat! 02-02-2010 01:39 PM

The WC is so much about national pride, on a non violent, beautiful, sporting event, you only focus on the craft, itself. At least I do! I only see how good, or how bad they play on the field. Terry is a beast on the field. He can make a difference, in games.

I soo wish, senegal was going this year! :( :bawling:

But the WC is da bomb regardless!!!:dance:

Alf 02-02-2010 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by setanta (Post 2946694)
Yes, you wouldn't care and they'd be out the door. Do you not see the blinkered view you have of it all just because of the high profile that Terry has as a footballer?

i dont care that john terry had an affair in his private life,his life he can do what he wants for me, i care about england winning the world cup and having the best men for the job, and in my opinion john terry is the best man for the england captaincy job,
it's people who are trying to hang him for something that is nothing to do with them. and i'd take the same attitude with any player.
if bridge and terry can not sort their differences then copello should be the man to make the decision not the gutter press or the so called pundits (who have only played sunday league football on their local park)

rapunza1977 02-02-2010 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by setanta (Post 2946691)
Wayne Bridge wouldn't be defended as strongly in here if the roles were reversed. That's fairly obvious to me.

Terry was f£cking his friend's girlfriend... his friend being a teammate too and he's the captain. Come on.

I am not condoning it.......................looking at the bigger picture!

I am not an England fan by the way, but I can see the bigger picture, it's about what he does on the pitch!

How do you know they would not defend Wayne Bridges if roles reversed? How can you say this?

Wayne happily leant JT his house on occasion so JT could get it on with another wannabee so this shows Wayne condoned extra martial affairs!!

Vicky. 02-02-2010 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Novo (Post 2943719)
We need lionheart terry to be our rock at the back for the world cup

Everyone will forgive him when he heads home a 90th minute corner against brazil

or slips over when he takes a penalty that could win the game ;)

setanta 02-02-2010 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by wannashag (Post 2946729)
i dont care that john terry had an affair in his private life,his life he can do what he wants for me, i care about england winning the world cup and having the best men for the job, and in my opinion john terry is the best man for the england captaincy job,
it's people who are trying to hang him for something that is nothing to do with them. and i'd take the same attitude with any player.
if bridge and terry can not sort their differences then copello should be the man to make the decision not the gutter press or the so called pundits (who have only played sunday league football on their local park)

But Wayne Bridge is hurting right now and wants nothing to do with Terry. He's even considered just abandoning his England career. This could have a huge impact on the English team, especially since Terry is the captain and should lead by example. What example is he setting in this particular moment?

Oh, and Terry wont resign so it's down to Capello now.

Like I said, if this was a fringe player the reaction would be totally different on here.

rapunza1977 02-02-2010 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by VickyJ (Post 2946732)
or slips over when he takes a penalty that could win the game ;)


well no - I am still smarting at cheat terry henry so I will be supporting no one in the world cup..............but I can see when a player is a good captain and thats all he should be known for - on the field

up to him to sort his personals outwith the game and in the privacy of him own home

Crimson Dynamo 02-02-2010 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 2946717)
There's a difference between crime and personal problems, if someone you didn't know who lived in your town cheated on someone would you bay for their blood and try to get them sacked? No you'd leave them to it. Personal problems should be just that, personal. The who family's gonna suffer because of this and He's definately gonna get the worst, why strip him of a title he's good at and harm our own chances for personal troubles.

Now if he was a criminal that would be different, and I don't really need to go into details as a baboon could see why.

That point about the parents confuses me, are you saying he's to blame for having criminal parents? If it is then it's another ridiculous point, If your parents have made bad choices in life then you should learn from their mistakes and experiences and forge a different path.

JT is the England Captain. Not just some employee. His private life, his family are public and are written about, this is why he commands a large salary. As England captain you have much influence over children, many children who, for example see sport/football as the most important thing in their lives. have a look around at children to see them ape their fave stars. Are you suggesting that they somehow syphon off the bad bits and just copy the good?


he has a unique position of responsibility beyond that of a "employee" his example to children stinks.

rapunza1977 02-02-2010 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by setanta (Post 2946738)
But Wayne Bridge is hurting right now and wants nothing to do with Terry. He's even considered just abandoning his England career. This could have a huge impact on the English team, especially since Terry is the captain and should lead by example. What example is he setting in this particular moment?

Oh, and Terry wont resign so it's down to Capello now.

Like I said, if this was a fringe player the reaction would be totally different on here.

Wayne has bee struggling with his England career for a while now threatening to retire before, he might not even be in the squad! If ghe wants to cut his nose off to spite his face then sdo be it.

setanta 02-02-2010 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by rapunza1977 (Post 2946731)
I am not condoning it.......................looking at the bigger picture!

I am not an England fan by the way, but I can see the bigger picture, it's about what he does on the pitch!

How do you know they would not defend Wayne Bridges if roles reversed? How can you say this?

Wayne happily leant JT his house on occasion so JT could get it on with another wannabee so this shows Wayne condoned extra martial affairs!!

I can see it from what you're saying about Terry, being an important part of the England team and crucial to Englands chances. You're bypassing all the sh£te and just talking about his commitment on the football pitch which is not the issue here. Every single player on a squad commits themselves to their team, but sure what kind team unity are you going to have when your captain has been f"£king the mother of one of his teammates children?

As I said before, if Wayne Bridge or Warnock or Agbonlahor had done something like this you'd want them out the door, no questions asked.

rapunza1977 02-02-2010 01:50 PM

Alan Shearar has gone on to say he is the best man for the job, albeit this is a huge feck up but I bet many players in that dressing room want him there,

Wildcat! 02-02-2010 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by setanta (Post 2946738)
But Wayne Bridge is hurting right now and wants nothing to do with Terry. He's even considered just abandoning his England career. This could have a huge impact on the English team, especially since Terry is the captain and should lead by example. What example is he setting in this particular moment?

Oh, and Terry wont resign so it's down to Capello now.

Like I said, if this was a fringe player the reaction would be totally different on here.


He can then go, and blow it out of his behind!!
This is no huge thing for him. A girl, who once was his girlfriend, has public scandal, with one of my teammates! I dont give a damn! how would that affect the world cup? If it does, then he doesnt belong there.

Tom4784 02-02-2010 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 2946741)
JT is the England Captain. Not just some employee. His private life, his family are public and are written about, this is why he commands a large salary. As England captain you have much influence over children, many children who, for example see sport/football as the most important thing in their lives. have a look around at children to see them ape their fave stars. Are you suggesting that they somehow syphon off the bad bits and just copy the good?


he has a unique position of responsibility beyond that of a "employee" his example to children stinks.

Nobody's a good role model, it's just some celebrities are better at hiding the naughty bits then others. That's how it is. If you're gonna look upto someone do it for their talent or skill in a certain field since you'll only end up disappointed because no one is perfect. He's human at the end of the day and his family problems are not something we should be involving ourselves with. Regardless of the tabloids delusions of grandieur about themselves he is a footballer and all most people care about is the performance of the team and he is a vital part of the team.

Crimson Dynamo 02-02-2010 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Wildcat! (Post 2946749)
He can then go, and blow it out of his behind!!
This is no huge thing for him. A girl, who once was his girlfriend, has public scandal, with one of my teammates! I dont give a damn! how would that affect the world cup? If it does, then he doesnt belong there.

How do you feel about him, in 2001, being fined two weeks’ wages after being accused of drunkenly mocking American tourists at Heathrow in the wake of the 9/11 attacks?

rapunza1977 02-02-2010 01:56 PM

it happens every day

best mates run off with best mates partners, it's because these guys are in the public domain they are supposed ot be saints - more full them for causing it but come on - look at the footy players that get sent behind bars, the come out to plat again for top teams,

setanta 02-02-2010 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Wildcat! (Post 2946749)
He can then go, and blow it out of his behind!!
This is no huge thing for him. A girl, who once was his girlfriend, has public scandal, with one of my teammates! I dont give a damn! how would that affect the world cup? If it does, then he doesnt belong there.

Terry was one of his best friends for years. She is the mother of Bridge's child. They've only split up recently. They both attended Terry's wedding for feck sake. We have no idea how long this affair has being going on for. Do I need to go on here?

rapunza1977 02-02-2010 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 2946754)
How do you feel about him, in 2001, being fined two weeks’ wages after being accused of drunkenly mocking American tourists at Heathrow in the wake of the 9/11 attacks?

no one is saying the guy is not an idiot - he is trailer trash for sure however is is needed for England and Chelsea as he is a tremendous player -

setanta 02-02-2010 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by rapunza1977 (Post 2946755)
it happens every day

best mates run off with best mates partners, it's because these guys are in the public domain they are supposed ot be saints - more full them for causing it but come on - look at the footy players that get sent behind bars, the come out to plat again for top teams,

You don't get it here. They play for England together. He's the England captain. They were really good friends and hung out together with their girlfriends.

Vicky. 02-02-2010 01:57 PM

The difference between it being Terry and Joe public though, in his job, he IS, whether he likes it or not, a rolemodel to others. He should behave accordingly.

Dont see any reason for him to be sacked though

rapunza1977 02-02-2010 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by setanta (Post 2946756)
Terry was one of his best friends for years. She is the mother of Bridge's child. They've only split up recently. They both attended Terry's wedding for feck sake. We have no idea how long this affair has being going on for. Do I need to go on here?

Do you not know anyone who has had affairs? Who has hurt families?

People do it every day

rapunza1977 02-02-2010 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by setanta (Post 2946760)
You don't get it here. They play for England together. He's the England captain. They were really good friends and hung out together with their girlfriends.

I hear you - but its still no argument for him to be sacked from captain

Angus 02-02-2010 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by rapunza1977 (Post 2946667)
?? how can you say that....................people have affairs - one nights stands behind partners back all the time - condoning nothing, do they get sacked? No - they have to deal with it..........which these guys will do ..... JT should not be asked to leave his position because of it.........they did not sack Sven when he was playing away..it's ludicrous and a complete media frenzy, as I said before, I bet Toni Poole will not leave JT

John Terry is not just one of the team, he is the Captain, the highest level of achievement in English football, awarded as a great honour to the player deemed the most worthy of ALL the players in England. He is a figurehead, and a role model for aspiring career footballers, and it is his responsibility NOT to participate in any behaviour that brings the position of Captain, the game of football, his country or his team into disrepute. When he was found out he scurried off to his lawyers to invoke a super injunction to prevent the press from printing the stories. Thankfully, for once, the Courts threw out his application BECAUSE the stories were true, and there was no basis to withhold them from the public. Any misfortune that befalls himself personally or the England team because of the fall out is completely due to his own actions.

Terry may be a great footballer, but he does not have the strength of character and scruples to be a worthy holder of the captaincy. Capello can deploy him on the field where, perhaps, he can redeem himself by doing what he is being paid megabucks to do and take England to victory in the World cup, but it should not be as Captain. That boat should well and truly have sailed for Terry.

setanta 02-02-2010 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by rapunza1977 (Post 2946765)
Do you not know anyone who has had affairs? Who has hurt families?

People do it every day

He's the captain of England and as such has a different role to play, a role that he has been very quick to promote - the one of the clean cut, honest family man.

Yes, and when people do it everyday they face the consequences, as Terry should in both his professional and personal life because he was the idiot who mixed the two of them up.

Angus 02-02-2010 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by VickyJ (Post 2946762)
The difference between it being Terry and Joe public though, in his job, he IS, whether he likes it or not, a rolemodel to others. He should behave accordingly.

Dont see any reason for him to be sacked though

Am not suggesting he be sacked, I am saying he should be stripped of the captaincy.

informer 02-02-2010 02:03 PM

he is a total low class peasant and an overgrown chav...his parents have been involved in drug deals and shoplifting and he was also in the papers for 'roasting' a football groupie in ibiza or somewhere

plus he is from barking in essex , the BNP stronghold...and even resembles a thug

when he speaks its embarassing with that thick as **** accent

he is just a big fat lump who tackles in defence and likes to think of himself as the 'guvnor' or whatever..

a total waste of spunk in terms of a human being

and the fact he was willing to shag a close friends missus is shocking...shows he is nothing more than an animal

Alf 02-02-2010 02:06 PM

my mum had an affair when i was a kid, which led to my parents splitting up, growing up i still saw both my parents as role models and have huge respect for them both.


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