That could be me if Engerland beat Argentina in the quarter-finals!

:hugesmile:

Breaking news:

Egypt has opened its border to Gaza.

:xyxwave: world peace

I only wish the Arabs had as big a military complex as Israel, so we might see a fair fight.

Ah i see. What you would love em to do? Kill em?

Engage in a fight on equal terms.

Didn't you see the Israelis blow the sh1t out of Beirut in 2006? Do you think those bombs killed no-one?

Equal terms? Do you remeber who are Israels neighbours? Bombs killed no-one? Like suicide bombs? Rockets launched from Beirut?

Basically, I believe the Palestinians are the rightful owners of Palestine, and the Israelis must come to terms with them. It's their land.

Beyond that, it's a war between 2 very unequal sides, and neither methodology has the higher moral ground. Morals went out the window in war a long time ago, with the carpet bombing of cities in WW2 etc.

So it does not matter if Israel civilians are getting killed. It comes quite clear that who you are supporting (and why).

It's a war, people on both sides are being killed, many many more Palestinians killed by Israel than vice-verse, btw.

Not true.

It is. I know even before googling.

It was 4 times as many, 165 v 549 in 2000.

Fine, you might be google generation, but we all know that suicidebombing has been going on for ages (and another terror attacks). But i let you live on your dreams (involve killing and all that). Case closed from my side.

Fixed that for you.

So kill the jews? That's what you thinking? No need to talk with you.

Just watched the video of the Israeli troops sliding down ropes to get on-board and then being attacked violently by a baying mob with iron bars and clubs, some being thrown overside.

not nice. no wonder the Israelis opened fire, they had to to save lives.

Oi vay!

Take off your blinkers and look at the entire picture.

Oh the poor little commandos, armed to the teeth, trained to kill. How many of them died btw?

Was this a full unedited video or the video that the IDF released?

In 1973 on Yom Kippur, the Arabs launched an offensive to get the Palestinians territory back. America provided satellite intelligence and military advisors to Isreal. (and bankrolled the war)

Arab countries now know better than to attack as USA just wins.

watch the video

full

America will show the full truth soon LT - the brave Isrealis mounted a heavily armed gunboat bringing missiles in, not humanitarian aid. CNN will show the AK47s these bastwards were using.

it is not just as innocent a situation as it seems. there are some gullible westerners on the boats

Link please

Link please.

A holocaust survivor was coming in with the humaitarian aid - MOSAD/Isreali commandos still decided to shoot their way in, in international waters

it was on liveleak but has been disabled. If you search around it will pop up again, all over the place i would imagine

Israel releases footage of weapons haul found on Gaza peace ship

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worl...#ixzz0pcbgDWDl

Piracy and murders in international waters.............UFFFFF

Get these murderers into war crimes tribuneral

I think Isreal was probably correct - the boats were full of WMD - bricks to throw at the Abrahams M1 tanks destroying their homes.

USA suppoerts this, we're complicit by not insisting the hundreds of UN resolutions are not imposed against that gangsta state called Isreal

If Israel didnt have an internationally condemned blockade of the Gaza strip which is in effect slowly starving the Palestinians there would be no need for International Aid to be sent into the area.

The UN have asked Israel to lift the blockade, Israel refused.
The UN states that the aid Israel allows into Gaza is actually less than 1/4 needed to stop the people living there from starving, Israel says tough.
The UN also accepts that Israel has in the past taken over areas already ceded to the Palestinians in previous peace treaties. Israel doesnt care. That is the reason Hamas is still active.

Conclusion Israel intends to starve the people living in Gaza either into extinction or until they force them to leave the area totally. Isnt that genocide and as such a crime against humanity.

We have blockade runners taking in food and building supplies. Israel mounts an operation to seize control of the vessels being used, on the high seas. An act of piracy, pure and simple. Article 51 of the UN charter does not give them the right to mount operations such as these until the vessels are within Israeli territorial waters.

The people on the ships although intending to break a blockade hadnt done so nor were they in Israeli waters, They have a right to defend themselves against the commandos, who were attempting to take control of the vessel illegally.

Now lets look at the Israeli operation, they used special forces to assault ships but failed big time, in order to establish a foothold on any enemy territory the initial assault needs to be fast and of sufficient scale to establish a safe area from which you can build up sufficient forces to a level where you can break out and gain control of the vital areas(key points) of the vessel namely the control room(bridge) and engine room. Or as they hoped a small team in fast to seize the bridge, however it would have to be a very co ordinated assault. The Israeli operation wasnt.

Once the troops who were to all extents special forces got bogged down in their assault they should have used non lethal means to defend themselves till there was sufficient numbers to regain the initiative in their assault. They are trained in unarmed combat and they do have access to non lethal weapons. They didnt, they started to open fire, this indicates either poorly disciplined troops or a badly led operation. The second indication is my guess.

What should happen is the International community should break the blockade supervised by the UN. Israel agreed to the setting up of the Palestinian enclaves, they should stand by that agreement. They havent.

The UN should once again send in peacekeeping forces to ensure that both sides observe a ceasefire. If Israel disagrees to that then sanctions should be enforced against Israel.

That wont happen because America supports Israel and needs its friendship.

The Israelis will wait out the international uproar and continue to do what they want. The slow starvation and destruction of the Palestinian communities. They always have and they always will do.

Yeah, that sounds logical. They ballsed up an illegal operation.

Wise words shas - USA will always support whatever crimes the Isrealis commit - UN have passed many resolutions against them but never enforce as we're under the influence of the only superpowe who could actually take action.r

I noticed they didnt display the assault rifles, machine guns, pistols tear gas and other grenades carried by their pirates?

I notice from the article you linked to that after a 12 hour sitting the UN condemned the attack.

Gaza, under Hamas is a terrorist state aimed at the complete annihilation and elimination of Israel

Under article 51 of the UN charter Israel is entitled to do what ever it takes and use all means to defend it's people.

It has the right to blockade Gaza and restrict supplies to prevent attacks on it's people. Israel has the right to take military action against those supporters of terrorism that were in those ships up to and including deadly force.

That is international law.

I tell you true Terry - MOSAD will have been busy throwing Aid Relief into the Med and replacing the cargo with AK-47s