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chick 14-08-2006 11:31 PM

Yeas bubs Lets just ignore The C**P that is posted on some forums ,
because I have read quite a bit of C**p myself .

Smokie 15-08-2006 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bubs
Incase anyone hasn't seen it, I thought I would just mention the open letter that Michelle reps at UL have posted.

I am pleased they did it as well as anything it answers a few things well for me anyway!! Although some may not like UL I think it has to be appreciated that since Michelle joined them, things are going well for her career wise.

I haven't really spoken about this openly but the past couple of months I have felt my support for Michelle drcreasing. I now feel a complete prat because I blamed Michelle for this. I won't go into my reasons as to why this wasI just did, but anyway, now having thought abit, I now realise it to be down to only a select few "supposed fans" who for some reason feel the need to spread c**p about her. I don't know why this is, but hey I suppose some people just don't have better things to do with their time.

I suppose the best thing to do is just ignore all the c**p and hopefully that select few will get bored and give up!!
Amen to that!!! :thumbs:

chick 16-08-2006 12:35 AM

Who's wedding is Michelle going to and if it is private why is it posted in her news bit .
Could it be someone we know ?

Bubs 16-08-2006 06:17 AM

Chick it just saids a friends wedding nothing about it being private!!
What woulod be the point to put the name of the person if it is an old friend of Michelle's that we obviously do not know!!

chick 16-08-2006 10:54 PM

I just thought it might be someone we know and could be happy for .
why was it posted .
The thing about the dog wasn't posted on her web site was it .

Bubs 16-08-2006 11:09 PM

Craig has posted something about it being his sisters wedding apparently Michelle is putting her make up artist skills to practice and doing the make up for her which I think is sweet!!

What thing about what dog btw??

chick 16-08-2006 11:49 PM

Pugs and kisses

Bubs 17-08-2006 06:30 PM

Yes Chick someone did post pics from that on MBO a while ago:bigsmile:

chick 26-08-2006 12:18 AM

Yeas but after she had been anyway
its good to here about her singing
Good luck Michelle you have my very
best wishes i hope it goes well .

Johnny 30-08-2006 04:55 PM

Hi guys, how is everyone I have been away too long. to be honest, I was posting on Michelle's official site for a while as I thought I would give her my full support, which I still do, but was not welcome because I dared to express my own opinion once to often and it got to a point where there was just no point in posting because if they didn't like what you said they either deleted your post before anyone could read it or gave you a warning. Thing is I am not a 'yes man' I have an opinion, yep one of my own and its a free country, I express them politely and stress they are mine alone. Anyway thought it was time to come back home to a place that allows you to at least given an opinion. Good to see that Michelle is doing well in her chosen career.

chick 30-08-2006 10:39 PM

were you Jon on MBO if so great post's
I liked every one of then .

Johnny 31-08-2006 06:43 PM

:xyxwave: hey chick, yes I was and thanks nice to know someone appreciates an honest opinion.

Bessie 31-08-2006 07:59 PM

I have read on MBO that Michelle's PR/Management are angry that the DJ's on Birch Radio who played Michelle's single mentioned about her being a part time Porn Star. They said she is not a porn star.

I am personally not surprised that this sort of thing is being said when you consider that Michelle is a topless glamour model, who gives explicit interviews in magazines, does a striptease on a porn channel and says, as part of her presenting "you can see me in action every nite on Television X".

I will leave you to make your own decisions on that.

Bubs 31-08-2006 08:08 PM

There is a clear definitional difference between Porn star and Presenter/glamour model a porn star is someone that is paid to have sex and filmed for it. Michelle does not do this she may be paid to pose topless yes but there is a big difference between posing for a few semi naked pictures and having sex. She does a strip a and saids a few quite tongue in cheek things and interviews again I state not having sex ie does not make her a porn star so I understand why her reps are slighty annoyed by it tbh.

Bessie 31-08-2006 08:25 PM

Well that is your opinion and you are entitled to it.


Unfortunately the media and public might not see it in the same way as you do. Anyone that is connected with an Adult TV channel will nearly always be associated with that industry, it doesn't matter in what field they are connected.

You may be interested in this description of the word pornography, especially point 2.


American Heritage Dictionary - Cite This Source new! por·nog·ra·phy (pôr-ngr-f) Pronunciation Key
n.
1. Sexually explicit pictures, writing, or other material whose primary purpose is to cause sexual arousal.

2. The presentation or production of this material.

Bubs 31-08-2006 08:36 PM

wow truly fascinating :rolleyes:

Bessie 31-08-2006 08:41 PM

Indeed

Bubs 31-08-2006 08:53 PM

I suppose in that case that makes the majority of the world porn stars if we are going by that definition.

Bessie 31-08-2006 09:57 PM

Well if the majority of the world population is involved in this industry then you may be right.

However, we are talking about Michelle here and how she is being perceived and there is no doubt that she is being perceived by certain members of the media/public as a porn star because she is indeed involved in that industry, regardless of how she is involved.

Bubs 31-08-2006 10:07 PM

Like I said going by the definition you put that would me and practiculary everyone I know is apart of pornography Gosh my mother will be shocked when I tell her I am a porn star :laugh:

The media is part and parcel of being in the public eye some will love you some will hate you that is a fact and a fact that I am sure Michelle is well aware and adjusted too and at the end of the day Good or bad publicity hey it is all publicity at the end of the day isn't it.

Bessie 31-08-2006 10:19 PM

Good for you, but surely that would also include Michelle in that equation and you have said she it not a porn star.


As for publicity, I suppose if the bad publicity effects your success or failure then it can't be good thing surely.

Better to have the media with you than against you.

Bubs 31-08-2006 10:25 PM

I would hardly say she is a failure Bessie she has a been able to buy herself a four bedroomed home in a nice place she has a single coming out which at this time is climbing up the commercial pop charts and it isn't even released yet that is just based on airplay.

I think most people in the public have had the elements of the media against them at times so no I don't think you have to have all the media with you at all times no. Again not all the media is against her anyway she is getting in alot of magazines of late so she is far from a failure I feel i fact I would say she is very much a success.

Bessie 31-08-2006 10:30 PM

I know exactly what she has achieved and can't deny that, but I am talking about her future career in music and hopefully the people that are involved in that industry will take her seriously.

Bubs 31-08-2006 10:35 PM

Well they are playing her songs to go on the word of one moron dj who clearly has no professionalism to his job I personally feel if he wanted to slag of her song then fair enough but he actually said it wasn't bad and again he played which means he feels it has some credibility to it.

Like I said it is going up in the charts as we speak just from getting airplay so yes I would say she is actually being taken seriously and good luck to her it is a good song imo and yes some may not take her seriously but some are and like I said in my previous not all the media is going to love you and not all hates goes without saying.

chick 31-08-2006 10:40 PM

Can I just ask a question
are craig and emma UL PR
and are they the admin on MBO .
If so MICHELLE what are you thinking .

I think its very sad that DJ's think that
Michelle is a porn star.
It doesn't really matter that she's not
if she gets a rep that she is who is
going to want to play her record .
and a part from her fans who is going
to buy it .
you can just here them .
oh thats that girl from bb5
the one that does tvx
the porn chanel
what a shame it is a good record .

Bubs 31-08-2006 10:46 PM

I actually know plenty of people non Michelle fans that have heard it and said they are going to download it once it is released as a download tune.

Not everyone is shallow narrow minded they and most don't pay any attention to half the crap the media write.

chick 31-08-2006 11:11 PM

Does that C**p in the media apply to any of the articals in mags that Michelles been in of late or are you just talking about DJ's and narrow minded people.

Chrizzle 31-08-2006 11:24 PM

Michelle has been indredibly successful and she deserves it.
Shes deffo in the top 5 most successful housemates.

She thinks like a celeb thats whats made her so successful.

Johnny 01-09-2006 12:21 PM

As someone who works in PR let me tell you people do take notice of what is said and what is written in magazine articles (whether my others or Michelle herself) and there is no getting away from that. No one is saying the song is not good it is I hadn't heard her sing well apart from on BB till now and she has a very good voice. She has done very well for herself in the glamour model stakes but where is that going and what is next this isn't a career you can do forever. It amazes me that just because people express their own opinion people just assume that others are critising Michelle they aren't just saying out loud what they really think and what's wrong with that. If Michelle wants to be taken seriously in the music business I think she will need to make some decisions in the future as it will be very hard to mix these two careers ok it may not be too much of a problem if she makes music cds for the club scenes but she is also good enough to be out there. I would assume that her own PR co know all this anyway. Anyway have given by own opinion and before all those people come on and do what they usually do if someone so much as says one negative thing about Michelle let me tell you I fully support Michelle in whatever she does, don't think she has always been given good advice around her career options but that is not down to us. She has the support out there so let's see what else she can do with the music, we've seen the glam stuff and ok there will be different pics but its the same old same old and there are thousands of girls out there doing it, in fact nearly everyone who comes out of the BB house these days its the same with recent interviews nothing new just rehash stuff and I was totally suprised to see her PR company answering questions very unheard of. If Michelle is reading comments on her forum she is not getting true views from her many of her fans cos if you don't agree and gush over everything you are not welcome there and that is very unfortunate for Michelle. Ah well that said its nice to be back.

chick 01-09-2006 10:44 PM

Wow Johnny good post
Its good that you can come on TIBB
and say more or less what you want .
I to am a fan of Michelle's and dont like
what is being said about her music
because she does tvx or glam pics
but like you said where does she
go with all that ,I know £200k is not
a smalle sum ,she cant be doing it all
for the money .
If she want to sing something has to go
I know who and what i would like to go
but in the end I hope it is really up to her .

Bubs 01-09-2006 11:29 PM

The thing I find funny and please correct me if I am am wrong which no doubt you will it is ok for people to comment there so called "concerns" about the direction of Michelle's career and how it will be impossible for her to be taken seriously in the music business but it is not alright for people to comment the opposite of that because they don't feel it does let us please not have double standards here.

I am sick and tired and frankly bored of people claiming how they can't have a honest opinion if they are not gushing about Michelle and how people jump down there throats for it when exactly the same is done to people that may Shock horror have a differing opinion to yours.

It shall be the last post I make on this as like I said I am bored I shall just leave you to your own devises :xyxwave:

chick 01-09-2006 11:37 PM

OH I am soooo sorry your bored Bubs
I should have put IMO on my post .

Bessie 02-09-2006 12:04 AM

I too am sick and tired and bored of everyone jumping to critisize anyone or anything that is said that remotely does not conform to what is required by Michelle's PR/Management company.

I have never known a PR company to find it necessary to keep posting on a client's website because they feel they have to apologise and explain some of their comments and actions. It is unheard of and totally unprofessional.

There are some people who think they have all the answers, but they might not be the right ones.

Bubs 02-09-2006 12:08 AM

:sleep:

chick 02-09-2006 12:17 AM

I so agree There are people on here that are very :sleep:and :bored:

Bubs 02-09-2006 12:22 AM

You are so right those nasty little trolls just won't give up will they :bigsmile:like an annoying itch they just won't give up :sleep: oh well :bored:

chick 02-09-2006 12:24 AM

But Hay thats ok :wavey:

Bessie 02-09-2006 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bubs
You are so right those nasty little trolls just won't give up will they :bigsmile:like an annoying itch they just won't give up :sleep: oh well :bored:

Why am I not surprised at that:nono: you really do not have any idea.

Gina 02-09-2006 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bubs
The thing I find funny and please correct me if I am am wrong which no doubt you will it is ok for people to comment there so called "concerns" about the direction of Michelle's career and how it will be impossible for her to be taken seriously in the music business but it is not alright for people to comment the opposite of that because they don't feel it does let us please not have double standards here.

I am sick and tired and frankly bored of people claiming how they can't have a honest opinion if they are not gushing about Michelle and how people jump down there throats for it when exactly the same is done to people that may Shock horror have a differing opinion to yours.

It shall be the last post I make on this as like I said I am bored I shall just leave you to your own devises :xyxwave:
i agree with your post totally bubs it seems that these days unless you are criticising everything michelle does, you are a deluded fan, or a "yes man". i have my opinions on michelle and i dont agree with everything she does but by the same token she has done very well so far in her chosen career and she seems happy with how things are going. i think whatever happens with her singing she does done well to get this far and i wish her well

Johnny 02-09-2006 10:38 AM

I think you misunderstood what I was saying Bubs, I was referring to the fact that you cannot express an opinion on MBO unless it is a gushing one your posts are deleted and you are not welcome, if they didn't want people to be honest then maybe they should not have had an open forum, you may disagree with this being a mod on there. Michelle knows that I support her totally but this is a free country with free speech and I will express that the problem being is that even now if you do it on here there are a couple of people who just jump straight back in and say they are sick and tired of people posting like that, well don't read them then and don't reply to them its as simple as that, I also object to the fact that people who do not gush all the time are referred to as 'trolls':nono: a very silly thing to do especially when you have no idea who is posting. I for one will give my opinion and it is my opinion so please respect it. I do object to the fact that it seems people are riding 'shotgun' on this thread to defend UL when it is not about them at all, who are they just her PR co nothing more, Michelle is the star and we as fans can express our support or thoughts as we wish and tbh if people don't like my posts well don't read them its easy.


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