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GypsyGoth 20-12-2010 12:17 AM

I don't bother with drugs apart from caffeine.

And I think junkies are selfish. I don't understand why someone would want to live like that.

BB_Eye 20-12-2010 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Blitzen (Post 4006809)
My attitude towards drugs is that they should remain banned. They degrade people's mental and physical health. I understand that one reason for drugs to be legalised is because they are under the control of criminal gangs but I don't think that mind altering substances should be distributed freely by the government.

However I do kinda think that less dangerous drugs such as weed should be legalised as I saw on TV in Holland how everybody there just treats weed as they would in countries where it is illegal. But drugs like ecstasy, meth and heroin should remain strictly banned.

I think the government should help those taking drugs more so they can ween themselves away from them. I've seen the effects of drugs first hand on my brother and I think its awful.

But there is no evidence that ecstacy is more harmful than legal drugs like alcohol and tobacco. It's ludicrous how much the dangers of this drug are blown out of proportion, just because it's not a multi billion pound corporate industry like those said drugs are.

Jamietwo 20-12-2010 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by AlexBigBrother (Post 4007237)
hi pete doherty

oh hi :) does my bum look big in this hat?

Stu 20-12-2010 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Blitzen (Post 4006893)
Its not the deaths that ecstasy causes, its the mental illnesses that it causes in people which scares me a lot more.

I dunno, if a government took charge of drugs and made them safe then I'd support it but I can't see that happening.

The jury is still out on long term mental effects taking MDMA can have. Serotogenic changes have been observed in rats who have been blitzed in laboratory experiments with Happy Monday's style doses of the drug. Taking Ecstacy every day for a few years as many people did back in the rave heyday can exhibit serotonin imbalances or psychological changes in the human brain but then again these people were always idiots for taking it everyday. That would fall under gross abuse. Dropping pills soley on the weekend every now and then is not going to impair much on your mental health, I would imagine.

And yes, the government could very, very easily make all drugs safer. Dosage is the main problem with illegal drugs. Simply put you go from A to B straight away. The manner in which MDMA or something similar is taken would be akin to necking back a bottle of high proof vodka straight to get absoloutely rat arsed within minutes. If the chemical were legal could you not very easily lagerize it into a liquid, drinkable solution that has a very pleasant, slow release effect? Obviously some people would still abuse it but the vast majority of happy, open minded people should not be punished severely for the folly of the few as some slightly more sheltered people in this thread seem to think.

What about Cannabis? Most uneducated people seem to forget when discussing the mental health implications of smoking high grade skunk that this is yet another problem of prohibition, not the substance itself. Cannabis is being grown improper for fast and cheap by greedy blitzkrieg style growers who are simply trying to selectively breed the stuff to death so it has super high levels of the mindracing, psychoactive chemical THC but very, very low levels of CBD - Cannabidiol. The other Cannabinoid in the Cannabis plant that people seem to forget about.

It's an antipsychotic chemical that doesn't destroy the high but merely calms and mellows out the more mind bending effects of the THC. It also reduces growth of aggressive human breast cancer cells in vitro and reduces their invasiveness. It has also been shown to relieve convulsion, inflammation, anxiety, and nausea amongst other things.

Of course all of this is heavy reading for people who would much rather sit on their hands and denounce anyone who dares to light one up as someone leading an unfulfilled, dismal life of servitude to chemicals. If they don't like something, others who do should have the book thrown at them. A pattern of thought as dangerous as any bag of Crystal Meth.

Niall 20-12-2010 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Tinsels (Post 4007936)
The jury is still out on long term mental effects taking MDMA can have. Serotogenic changes have been observed in rats who have been blitzed in laboratory experiments with Happy Monday's style doses of the drug. Taking Ecstacy every day for a few years as many people did back in the rave heyday can exhibit serotonin imbalances or psychological changes in the human brain but then again these people were always idiots for taking it everyday. That would fall under gross abuse. Dropping pills soley on the weekend every now and then is not going to impair much on your mental health, I would imagine.

And yes, the government could very, very easily make all drugs safer. Dosage is the main problem with illegal drugs. Simply put you go from A to B straight away. The manner in which MDMA or something similar is taken would be akin to necking back a bottle of high proof vodka straight to get absoloutely rat arsed within minutes. If the chemical were legal could you not very easily lagerize it into a liquid, drinkable solution that has a very pleasant, slow release effect? Obviously some people would still abuse it but the vast majority of happy, open minded people should not be punished severely for the folly of the few as some slightly more sheltered people in this thread seem to think.

What about Cannabis? Most uneducated people seem to forget when discussing the mental health implications of smoking high grade skunk that this is yet another problem of prohibition, not the substance itself. Cannabis is being grown improper for fast and cheap by greedy blitzkrieg style growers who are simply trying to selectively breed the stuff to death so it has super high levels of the mindracing, psychoactive chemical THC but very, very low levels of CBD - Cannabidiol. The other Cannabinoid in the Cannabis plant that people seem to forget about.

It's an antipsychotic chemical that doesn't destroy the high but merely calms and mellows out the more mind bending effects of the THC. It also reduces growth of aggressive human breast cancer cells in vitro and reduces their invasiveness. It has also been shown to relieve convulsion, inflammation, anxiety, and nausea amongst other things.

Of course all of this is heavy reading for people who would much rather sit on their hands and denounce anyone who dares to light one up as someone leading an unfulfilled, dismal life of servitude to chemicals. If they don't like something, others who do should have the book thrown at them. A pattern of thought as dangerous as any bag of Crystal Meth.

Do you know what Stu? I've always been undecided on whether drugs should be legalised or not and I have to say your post has converted me. I've always thought that legalising cannabis would be a good idea it was just all the other drugs I was confused about. But you've cleared that up for me now.

I never actually knew ecstasy could be manufactured into a drink. That sounds like a brilliant idea if it makes the drug less intensive.

Stu 20-12-2010 04:29 PM

Well don't just take it from me. There is a wealth of information out there. As for MDMA's beverage potential virtually anything can be consumed in a drink. Even Cannabis's [fat soluble] chemicals can be extracted and used in a drink.

Niall 20-12-2010 04:59 PM

Tbh I have been thinking about it for a while and its what you said up there that convinced me. And cool.


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