He can write, he can sing. OK he might not be up for the crocodile rock but he's as fit as a fiddle

Flippin' 'eck grandparents don't get written off. Infact they get used to look after the kids and often have them more than the parents! He's not past it. Plus (again) he has David too

you were the one banging on about a Mother's love, not 'ordinary couples'. I see you had no answer to my comments about Tracey Connelly, Karen Matthews then? What love did they show their children? Being a child's biological mother does not grant direct pathway to a loving, caring, protective and nuturing environment or upbringing.

As for your comments above: Elton has gone through the surrogacy route: not regular adoption -it's an entirely different process and cannot be compared in the way you are trying to do.

I'm quite sure Elton would be delighted never to need to take care of your dog. I'm sure he'll be far more delighted at taking care of his son.

Um, no. People usually aren't bored creating a family. But he must be.

He's a millionaire, can buy anything he wishes. And now he's found the ability to buy a baby.

He's 63 by the way.

Now I read he's going on a world tour. So commitment is obviously very high on his list - commitment to his career I mean.

"Baby? What baby? Oh that baby ....

Mmm, bored ... what else can I have .... "

It's all very 'Edina Monsoon' ...

It matters not a jot the reasons why he has retired from his career (and very long and fruitful one I might add). It allows him the time to devote to raising a young child - to devote his time soley to being a father along with a younger partner.

Hardly the crime of the century is it.

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so what if he's going anywhere - on tour / work ... so what?

plenty of 'regular parents' work away, plenty of them - on contracts abroad, on oil rigs, in the forces, on assignments that they cannot take family with them ....so you are saying that any parent who does that is not committed to their children? utter nonsense.

Plus plenty of celebrities bring the tots on the road. And before you get your knickers in a twist about 'nyah that's not suitable!' his tour bus is probably better equipped than most houses. I'm sure the wee lad will be fine.

what comments do you want me to make its obvious to me and everyone else
there are evil women out there who should never have had kids,
a mother is someone who brings you up loves you, and takes care of you,and allright sometimes its a father who does the same good job,can you honestly say elton john would be a wonderful dad I dont think so

It's surrogacy so it'll be his child though, he won't be adopting (that's how it works isn't it?)

i bet elton is reading this thread. nosy bastard.

Usually yes. Sometimes they go by independant donors but the usual route is that one parent is the sperm or egg donor (sometimes both and the surrogate is no biological relation to the baby)

Tell you what... if you're going to ask me a question, I'm big enough to answer it all by myself. Yes I do think Elton John would be a good father - I have no reason to suspect otherwise.

All you appear to be doing is coming across in your posts as being incredibly bitter at this news. Any particular reason why you should hold such a grudge - against Elton John or anyone of his age, becoming a father - by whatever means.

good comment cub

Oh don' be so silly. You don' know Elton at all yet here you are making all kinds of utterly ridiculous assumptions about his motives and intentions. And the very idea that he worries about status symbols is just laughable.

There's 'talk' that it was David's sperm...... Elton may not necessarily be the biological Daddy.

The only ones who will know for sure, are those who need to know I guess. quite right too.... it's really buggar all to do with anyone (but it's good to guess!) :blush:

Elton is a horrible person. This kid doesn't stand a chance!

Can see the fish hook around that post

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because every child should be brought up by someone who can give it a happy and active life not an old granddad,who only wants it for a status symbol

How many times..... he's not alone. He's not taking this child on alone. My God if any child was going to be taken care of that one is

Yet here you are arrogantly asserting that you have second sight and that Elton will be a terrible father - hypocrisy? Much. Or is it that only YOUR opinion is valid, despite having based it purely on prejudice?:bored:

you seem to be very selective here - are you forgetting that David, Elton's partner is in his 40's, is very fit and healthy and will also be one of the boy's parents? And who is to say the child will not have a happy life? You are one of the very few on here who have this ridiculous notion.

What about 'everyday non celeb parents' who are not able to give their children an active life (which is a weird thing to say: the child will be active,as all children are!!!) - if you mean someone who can go around kicking a ball with their kid - there are thousands of fathers out there who are overweight, obese, unfit, have health problems that prevent them doing this - and plenty who simply can't be arsed -and quite a number of fathers who work incredibly long hours to provide a roof and all that a child needs, and who simply don't have the time to have regular active play time with their children.

Your reasons are without substance, petty and to be perfectly honest: ludicrious. Firstly, you bleated on about adoption rules, when Elton and David are not adopting, they chose the surrogacy route. You then gave it the, "A child needing a 'mothers love' patter, which is nonsense as some mothers can be inherently evil - now you're banging the 'hes too old a man' drum. Are you homophobic by chance? I ask because all I'm seeing from you is an empty vessel making much noise.

Another little snippets for you in respect of your "the rich can adopt but ordinary couples have to meet strict rules" and your 'child needs a mother's love' nonsense....

That puts paid to your assertion that they got any special treatement. They in fact, didn't.

Great 'mother' this little fella had eh? Alcoholic, HIV positive and dumped her child. So much for that wonderful thing you have in mind that you called, 'A mother's love' then huh!

How many ordinary couples out there would take on a child that was HIV positive. Not many. It's an absolute travesty that this little boy wasn't given the chance to be adopted by Elton & David - all through nothing more than bitter prejudices based on age and sexuality. The only person who has lost out was this little HIV positive boy.

Some of the homophobic and ageist opinions stated on this thread are disgusting and quite frankly I feel sorry for any kids whose parents hold such views which will, no doubt, be passed on to them, thereby perpetuating such nonsensical, prejudiced and malicious attitudes.

Hard not to disagree. Very blinkered, overly prejudiced comments being thrown around - mind you - who is to say that it's not been done 'for effect'.... you know,adding a little drama and all that!! I'm finding it hard to take some of the comments seriously, so ridiculous they are!

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A talent wasted on a little forum !!!

well excuse me for having an opinion,time will tell wont it, you dont know if he will be a good dad,and i dont know if he wont,we will just have to wait and see wont we.in the meantime i have more important things to worry about,

Really? Because you seemed pretty sure until some more intelligent posters with well thought out opinions picked you up on it.

who died and made you king, is no one allowed an opinion but you, you come out all guns blazing browbeating people down. lighten up man.

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Icecakes of course you're allowed an opinion but don't blame people jumping on you for being bigotted

-klaxons go off and confetti falls down, signalling the 1 millionth admittal of defeat with the "It's just my opinion" card-

Even when they're 62!

Poppycock!

And He will Never have a Baby Girl.

ist that what forums are all about people airing their opinions,otherwise,they would be boring.

I'm not sure if i agree with same sex couples having kids. I understand that they are obviously just as capable as a hetro couple as long as they are stable but a child needs both a male and female role model, there is an element missing, and kids being kids there will be some bullying for it, simply for being different.

What if a parent dies or leaves then?

definition of bigot, a prejudiced person who is intolerant of any opinions differing from his own, this could apply to a few other people dont you think.

Actually what if a boy's mother dies and he's brought up by just his father and a brother, uncle or grandfather?

I know what a bigot is or I wouldn't have used the word. You were totally intolerant until a few posts ago