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Mystic Mock 18-01-2012 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 4886172)
wikileaks has nothing to do with it, wikileaks don't provide links to download hollywood movies lol.

Harry doesn't think it's because of the illegal downloads,Harry believes that they are trying to shut Wikileaks up because of them reporting currupt stories about the United States Government.

Harry! 18-01-2012 08:16 PM

What is more viable for the United States? The status of the country (and how the general public who are not nessasarily into politics or read the news in such detail) and how the country is viewed, compared to a few illegal downloads to watch movies or music. Which in turn is, of course, bad for the economy.

The Goverment (in general, not just US specific) is more interested in winning support/votes then physically trying to nurse the poor economy.

For example premoting research/investigation into finding the cure for cancer is more viable for the govererment then the actual cure.

If they were so conserned about the economy they would be SHOUTING at the banks DEMANDING they pay back their currupt loans. No, the goverment is best friends with the banks and wouldn't want to upset there "innocent" souls.

It all adds up really.

Harry! 18-01-2012 08:17 PM

And no I wasn't suggesting Wikileaks supplies people with file share links to watch movies.

Scarlett. 18-01-2012 08:31 PM

SOPA and PIPA are total jokes, the American government is run by religeous old men who have no idea how to send emails, they don't understand the far reaching consequences SOPA and PIPA will have for the world wide web.

Thank god for Obama, he shelved SOPA yesterday. PIPA is still a threat though

Mystic Mock 18-01-2012 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chewy (Post 4886309)
SOPA and PIPA are total jokes, the American government is run by religeous old men who have no idea how to send emails, they don't understand the far reaching consequences SOPA and PIPA will have for the world wide web.

Thank god for Obama, he shelved SOPA yesterday. PIPA is still a threat though

I don't get how the Republicans have so much power in America? if they was a party over here they would be losing to the BNP.

lostalex 18-01-2012 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jedward fever (Post 4886186)
Harry doesn't think it's because of the illegal downloads,Harry believes that they are trying to shut Wikileaks up because of them reporting currupt stories about the United States Government.

There were no corrupt stories in wikileaks. None of the actual cables from wikileaks showed the US doing anything against the law. that's why Bradley Manning's laywers are arguing that wikileaks did no harm, therefore he shouldn't be put in jail.

lostalex 18-01-2012 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chewy (Post 4886309)
SOPA and PIPA are total jokes, the American government is run by religeous old men who have no idea how to send emails, they don't understand the far reaching consequences SOPA and PIPA will have for the world wide web.

Thank god for Obama, he shelved SOPA yesterday. PIPA is still a threat though

It has nothing to do with the religious right. SOPA/PIPA are being pushed through by HOllywood and the Record Industry lobbyists. It has nothing to do with social conservatism, it's all about the entertainment industry protecting their products. And the entertainment industry is notoriously left wing, so you can't blame this on the Republicans.

lostalex 18-01-2012 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Harry! (Post 4886238)
What is more viable for the United States? The status of the country (and how the general public who are not nessasarily into politics or read the news in such detail) and how the country is viewed, compared to a few illegal downloads to watch movies or music. Which in turn is, of course, bad for the economy.

The Goverment (in general, not just US specific) is more interested in winning support/votes then physically trying to nurse the poor economy.

For example premoting research/investigation into finding the cure for cancer is more viable for the govererment then the actual cure.

If they were so conserned about the economy they would be SHOUTING at the banks DEMANDING they pay back their currupt loans. No, the goverment is best friends with the banks and wouldn't want to upset there "innocent" souls.

It all adds up really.


i think the banks did repay their loans, and also the Auto industry did too. I was watching a show the other day about how the US government actually made a profit from the bailouts in 2008.

Harry! 18-01-2012 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 4886461)
i think the banks did repay their loans, and also the Auto industry did too. I was watching a show the other day about how the US government actually made a profit from the bailouts in 2008.

I was more refering to the UK banking crisis "The Depisit" (which is still the main cause internally for the UK economy) in that that post there but I can imagine the details of it in the US "Wall Street Crash" would be interesting...

Scarlett. 18-01-2012 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 4886445)
It has nothing to do with the religious right. SOPA/PIPA are being pushed through by HOllywood and the Record Industry lobbyists. It has nothing to do with social conservatism, it's all about the entertainment industry protecting their products. And the entertainment industry is notoriously left wing, so you can't blame this on the Republicans.

The Republicans are famously backwards people who will vote against anything they don't understand, they usually come from those southern states (the ones that give the rest of America a bad name) you can't be saying that if John McCain had won that he'd have blocked SOPA?

Mystic Mock 18-01-2012 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Chewy (Post 4886483)
The Republicans are famously backwards people who will vote against anything they don't understand, they usually come from those southern states (the ones that give the rest of America a bad name) you can't be saying that if John McCain had won that he'd have blocked SOPA?

Also aren't the Republicans the worst for emigration aswell? which is more of a left wing view,no offence to lefties.

lostalex 18-01-2012 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Chewy (Post 4886483)
The Republicans are famously backwards people who will vote against anything they don't understand, they usually come from those southern states (the ones that give the rest of America a bad name) you can't be saying that if John McCain had won that he'd have blocked SOPA?

sorry but yu are wrong, and you are showing your ignorance about the american political parties. This has absolutely nothing to do with conservatism AT ALL. The conservatives are too busy worrying about taxes and gay marriage to give a **** about this.

Scarlett. 18-01-2012 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 4886764)
sorry but yu are wrong, and you are showing your ignorance about the american political parties. This has absolutely nothing to do with conservatism AT ALL. The conservatives are too busy worrying about taxes and gay marriage to give a **** about this.

Exactly why SOPA would have got through if they were in charge

lostalex 18-01-2012 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Chewy (Post 4886817)
Exactly why SOPA would have got through if they were in charge

Umm, they are in charge, the Republicans have a Majority in the House of Representatives, so i don't know what you mean...

Scarlett. 18-01-2012 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 4886861)
Umm, they are in charge, the Republicans have a Majority in the House of Representatives, so i don't know what you mean...

Neither do I :joker: You're right, I don't know the ins and outs of US politics

Mystic Mock 18-01-2012 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 4886861)
Umm, they are in charge, the Republicans have a Majority in the House of Representatives, so i don't know what you mean...

That's why I don't get the point of why Obama is President? they always overrule him on his ideas,infact i'm surprised he got away with shutting down SOPA.

Ninastar 19-01-2012 07:49 PM

Aaaaand Megaupload is gone

Ithinkiloveyoutoo 19-01-2012 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Ninastar (Post 4889597)
Aaaaand Megaupload is gone

:bawling:

Mystic Mock 19-01-2012 07:56 PM

Come on Obama you can stop this thing.

Doogle 19-01-2012 07:58 PM

If Hulkshare and/or Mediafire go I will kill myself.

Scarlett. 19-01-2012 07:59 PM

It's been taken down without using SOPA and PIPA, which will bring up arguements that, really, these two bills are not needed.

Megaupload, well lets be honest, it was a clear cut channel for piracy, they cost the US economy $500m and the owner is a New Zealand Millionairre.

Shaun 19-01-2012 08:04 PM

MU :bawling:

it used to be good but recently they made it pretty rubbish.

Braden 19-01-2012 08:19 PM

I'm actually going to have to choose a new route of life now that Megaupload has been closed down.

Shaun 19-01-2012 08:23 PM

It's okay Braden, we're here for you

Jords 19-01-2012 08:25 PM

:bawling:

Fetch The Bolt Cutters 19-01-2012 08:26 PM

i cant remember which one megaupload is :conf2:

Sarah. 19-01-2012 08:27 PM

I don't know what to do with my spare time anymore. :bawling:

Samuel. 19-01-2012 08:30 PM

Swizz Beatz was the CEO D:

Harry! 19-01-2012 08:34 PM

Where now can I watch 72 minutes worth of pleasure?

Jords 19-01-2012 10:58 PM

Apparently the Anonymous group (who are they!?) have hacked and shut down sites (inc. UMG) in retaliation! INTERNET STRIKES BACK.

Jords 19-01-2012 11:01 PM

http://www.complex.com/tech/2012/01/...-of-megaupload

Smithy 19-01-2012 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott (Post 4889761)
i cant remember which one megaupload is :conf2:

the orange one

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harry! (Post 4889800)
Where now can I watch 72 minutes worth of pleasure?

xtube

Callum 19-01-2012 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Jords (Post 4890379)

:D

lily. 20-01-2012 11:42 AM

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Twitter - @AnonymousWiki


January 19th, 2012

Popular file-sharing website megaupload.com gets shutdown by U.S Justice - FBI and charged its founder with violating piracy laws. Four Megaupload members were also arrested. The FBI released a press release on its website which you can view here:
http://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/pre...t-infringement

We Anonymous are launching our largest attack ever on government and music industry sites. Lulz. The FBI didn't think they would get away with this did they? They should have expected us.



#OpMegaupload
The following sites were taken down in response to the FBI shutting down megaupload.com
:) TANGO DOWN


justice.gov
universalmusic.com
riaa.org
mpaa.org
copyright.gov
hadopi.fr
wmg.com
usdoj.gov
bmi.com
fbi.gov


DOX of MPAA CEO Chris Dodd (original: http://pastebin.com/mvLYNdWB)

Name: Christopher John Dodd, Jr.
Birthdate: May 27, 1944
Age: 67
Religion: Roman Catholic
Party Affiliation: Democratic Party
High School: Georgetown Preparatory School, Bethesda, MD
University: BA English Literature, Providence College (1966)
Law School: JD, University of Louisville School of Law (1972)
Occupations: US Senator, Connecticut (1981-2011), US Congressman, Connecticut 2nd (1975-80)
Current Position: Motion Picture Association of America Chairman & CEO (2011-Present)

Wife: Jackie Marie Clegg Dodd
Age: 49
Religion: Mormon
High School: Orem High School, Orem, UT
University: BA Communications and Political Science, Southern Utah State College (1987)
University: MA National Security Studies, Georgetown University
Occupation: Clegg International Consultants LLC Managing Partner (2001-Present)

Children: Grace Dodd (10), Christina Dodd (8)

Address 1:
8 7th Street Northeast, Washington, DC 20002-6022
Phone Number: (202) 548-6040
Property Value: $997,000 [http://bit.ly/A7wfpb]

Address 2:
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Property Value: $453,400 [http://bit.ly/ynBXN0]

Motion Picture Association of America Corporate Offices:

Washington, D.C.
1600 Eye St., NW
Washington, D.C. 20006
Phone: (202) 293-1966
Fax: (202) 296-7410

Los Angeles
15301 Ventura Blvd., Building E
Sherman Oaks, CA 91403
Phone: (818) 995-6600
Fax: (818) 285-4403

New York
200 White Plains Road 1st Floor
Tarrytown, NY 10591
Phone: (914) 333-8892
Fax: (914) 333-7541

Chicago
1010 Lake St.
Suite 422
Oak Park, IL 60301
708-660-0481
Phone: (708) 660-0481
Fax:(708) 660-0484

Dallas
1425 Greenway Dr.
Suite 270
Irving, TX 75038
Phone: (972) 756-9078
Fax: (972) 756-9402

Sao Paulo, Brazil
Rua Jerônimo da Veiga, 45, Conj 121/122, 12º Floor
Jardim Europa, São Paulo, S.P
04536-000, Brazil
Phone: 011-55-11-3667-2080
Website: www.mpaal.org.br

Brussels, Belgium
Motion Picture Association
Brussels office
Avenue des Arts 46 box 8
B - 1000 Brussels
Phone: +32 2 778 27 11
Fax: +32 2 778 27 00/+32 2 778 27 50

Mexico City, Mexico
Lafontaine #42
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Mexico, 11560 DF
Phone: 011-5255 5280 6878/5281 6090

Singapore
#04-07 Central Mall
No. 1 Magazine Road
Singapore 059567
Phone: +65 6253 1033
Phone: +65 6255 1838
Website: www.mpa-i.org

Toronto, Canada
55 St. Clair Avenue, West
Suite 210
Toronto, ON M4V 2Y7
Phone: (416) 961-1888
Phone: (416) 968-1016
Website: www.mpa-canada.org

MPAA Email: ContactUs@mpaa.org

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King Gizzard 20-01-2012 11:45 AM

amazed that it's taken this long for them to crack down on file sharing websites

mediafire next, and i will cease to exist

lily. 20-01-2012 11:49 AM

I love mediafire. :/

For every one they shut down, another 10 will pop up though. The FBI won't win this fight.

Also, the Megaupload chief guy doesn't look too worried.. he's probably got it all sewn up legally. After all, he's merely providing a place for people to upload files. He's not responsible for their content. That would be like charging the guy who sold the knife to the other guy who used it to murder someone. Where does it stop?

King Gizzard 20-01-2012 11:50 AM

what do people honestly use megaupload for if not illegal downloading? are file sharing websites really used in the majority legally?

lily. 20-01-2012 11:51 AM

I would suspect not. But it doesn't alter the fact that as long as he says you can't put stuff up with copyright, and as long as he removes them when it's brought to his attention, the law can't really touch him, can it?

Tom4784 20-01-2012 12:37 PM

It's a pointless action that's achieved nothing but a backlash that's compromised the Government's own security.

I doubt they could actually charge the owner with anything since he hasn't technically done anything wrong. Taking down Megaupload will just give rise to other sites. There's no way to stop piracy occurring.

lily. 20-01-2012 04:38 PM

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INTERNETS, 18th of January 2012.
PRESS RELEASE, FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE.

Over a century ago Thomas Edison got the patent for a device which would "do for the eye what the phonograph does for
the ear". He called it the Kinetoscope. He was not only amongst the first to record video, he was also the first person
to own the copyright to a motion picture.

Because of Edisons patents for the motion pictures it was close to financially impossible to create motion pictures
in the North american east coast. The movie studios therefor relocated to California, and founded what we today call
Hollywood. The reason was mostly because there was no patent.
There was also no copyright to speak of, so the studios could copy old stories and make movies out of them - like
Fantasia, one of Disneys biggest hits ever.

So, the whole basis of this industry, that today is screaming about losing control over immaterial rights, is that they
circumvented immaterial rights. They copied (or put in their terminology: "stole") other peoples creative works,
without paying for it. They did it in order to make a huge profit. Today, they're all successful and most of the
studios are on the Fortune 500 list of the richest companies in the world. Congratulations - it's all based on being
able to re-use other peoples creative works. And today they hold the rights to what other people create.
If you want to get something released, you have to abide to their rules. The ones they created after circumventing
other peoples rules.

The reason they are always complainting about "pirates" today is simple. We've done what they did. We circumvented the
rules they created and created our own. We crushed their monopoly by giving people something more efficient. We allow
people to have direct communication between eachother, circumventing the profitable middle man, that in some cases take
over 107% of the profits (yes, you pay to work for them).
It's all based on the fact that we're competition.
We've proven that their existance in their current form is no longer needed. We're just better than they are.

And the funny part is that our rules are very similar to the founding ideas of the USA. We fight for freedom of speech.
We see all people as equal. We believe that the public, not the elite, should rule the nation. We believe that laws
should be created to serve the public, not the rich corporations.

The Pirate Bay is truly an international community. The team is spread all over the globe - but we've stayed out of the
USA. We have Swedish roots and a swedish friend said this:
The word SOPA means "trash" in Swedish. The word PIPA means "a pipe" in Swedish. This is of course not a coincidence.
They want to make the internet inte a one way pipe, with them at the top, shoving trash through the pipe down to the
rest of us obedient consumers.
The public opinion on this matter is clear. Ask anyone on the street and you'll learn that noone wants to be fed with
trash. Why the US government want the american people to be fed with trash is beyond our imagination but we hope that
you will stop them, before we all drown.

SOPA can't do anything to stop TPB. Worst case we'll change top level domain from our current .org to one of the
hundreds of other names that we already also use. In countries where TPB is blocked, China and Saudi Arabia springs to
mind, they block hundreds of our domain names. And did it work? Not really.
To fix the "problem of piracy" one should go to the source of the problem. The entertainment industry say they're
creating "culture" but what they really do is stuff like selling overpriced plushy dolls and making 11 year old girls
become anorexic. Either from working in the factories that creates the dolls for basically no salary or by watching
movies and tv shows that make them think that they're fat.

In the great Sid Meiers computer game Civilization you can build Wonders of the world. One of the most powerful ones
is Hollywood. With that you control all culture and media in the world. Rupert Murdoch was happy with MySpace and had
no problems with their own piracy until it failed. Now he's complainting that Google is the biggest source of piracy
in the world - because he's jealous. He wants to retain his mind control over people and clearly you'd get a more
honest view of things on Wikipedia and Google than on Fox News.

Some facts (years, dates) are probably wrong in this press release. The reason is that we can't access this information
when Wikipedia is blacked out. Because of pressure from our failing competitors. We're sorry for that.

THE PIRATE BAY, (K)2012
Source: http://static.thepiratebay.org/legal/sopa.txt


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