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Niamh. 06-03-2012 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by kizzy (Post 5000782)
Slightly off topic but what is the title of your dissertation marc?...

Neutering for Dummies :idc:

Angus 06-03-2012 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by 08marsh (Post 5000735)
What kind of house was she in? Did no one find it odd that this woman with 10 kids was living in a 2 up 2 down backstreet of Manchester? Ridiculous. My younger brother has cerebral palsy and has struggled for funding on all sorts of equipment, been on endless waiting lists to join groups and care centres and women like this just make it harder for everyone. Scum, she should be hung.

I can imagine this sort of story must absolutely infuriate you - it certainly does me. Your brother, through no fault of his own suffers from a disability for which he requires essential equipment, yet the funding is erratic if not non-existent. However, parasites like this scumbag defraud the system of money they invariably don't actually need, but to which they feel some sort of entitlement. Absolutely disgraceful. The punishments for these sorts of crime need to always be custodial, otherwise where is the deterrent?

thesheriff443 06-03-2012 04:01 PM

a good friend of mine works with children who need special help and special chairs she goes into their homes and some are very well off they could easily afford the chairs but instead wait until the money is available from a grant from the goverment wich can take months rather than pay for it them selfs

Marsh. 06-03-2012 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Angus (Post 5000924)
I can imagine this sort of story must absolutely infuriate you - it certainly does me. Your brother, through no fault of his own suffers from a disability for which he requires essential equipment, yet the funding is erratic if not non-existent. However, parasites like this scumbag defraud the system of money they invariably don't actually need, but to which they feel some sort of entitlement. Absolutely disgraceful. The punishments for these sorts of crime need to always be custodial, otherwise where is the deterrent?

Couldn't agree more. Just that picture of the woman walking free from court astounds me. She should be ashamed of herself but most likely isn't.

Jesus. 06-03-2012 04:14 PM

People will always try to con the system, and regardless of whether the government is Tory or Labour.

Whilst everyone is trying to stop the steam coming out of their ears on this, how about if you were told that the economy loses far more from rich people dodging personal and business taxes?

Because that's what currently happens.

This woman is in the wrong to do this, no doubt about it, but this is the typical ploy of rags like "The S*n." Demonising the poor is their standard fare. This woman will be prosecuted, but where are the investigations into the rich tax dodgers, funneling their millions to "tax-friendly" places?

Marc 06-03-2012 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by kizzy (Post 5000782)
Slightly off topic but what is the title of your dissertation marc?...

Something about these vile creatures :laugh:

thesheriff443 06-03-2012 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ (Post 5001105)
People will always try to con the system, and regardless of whether the government is Tory or Labour.

Whilst everyone is trying to stop the steam coming out of their ears on this, how about if you were told that the economy loses far more from rich people dodging personal and business taxes?

Because that's what currently happens.

This woman is in the wrong to do this, no doubt about it, but this is the typical ploy of rags like "The S*n." Demonising the poor, is their standard fare. This woman will be prosecuted, but where are the investigations into the rich tax dodgers, funneling their millions to "tax-friendly" places?

could not agree more!

Jesus. 06-03-2012 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by thesheriff443 (Post 5001111)
could not agree more!

Then you will be blessed in the next life :joker:

Livia 06-03-2012 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by kizzy (Post 5000775)
Stop misquoting me livia, respond to what i say and not what you want to think i said...I am not a socialist either, please dont label me.
Im in favour of welfare reforms, they are not the issue in discussion though are they?Its the way the red tops demonise certain groups in an attempt to whip the public into a feeding frenzy of hatred over said group. Its working perfectly.
Once again i DO NOT condone her actions, as your 'LOL ...Okay' suggests you dont believe me .
We have a different view, the difference is i respect you for yours.

Neither are MP's expenses.

Kizzy 06-03-2012 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 5001206)
Neither are MP's expenses.

Well done, very evasive spend a lot of time in the commons livia?
My point, that has been smokescreened... has been highlighted very well by jesus.

Niall 06-03-2012 05:49 PM

Thats just disgusting. :bored:

Jesus. 06-03-2012 06:10 PM

http://www.indiatalkies.com/images/inventor435r.jpg

I have made a breakthrough on the child invention formula.

arista 06-03-2012 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Marc (Post 5000755)
It's a crime that women like this are not sterilised at the first sign of stupidity.


Hang on she only has 2 fit kids?
Thats a bit nazi like?


She is a Out Right Stinking Criminal.

Kizzy 06-03-2012 06:24 PM

Hold the front page!
http://www.cartoonstock.com/lowres/msh0006l.jpg

Jesus. 06-03-2012 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by arista (Post 5001280)
Hang on she only has 2 fit kids?
Thats a bit nazi like?


She is a Out Right Stinking Criminal.

Arista says children are "fit"
You heard
it here
first

Livia 06-03-2012 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by kizzy (Post 5001220)
Well done, very evasive spend a lot of time in the commons livia?
My point, that has been smokescreened... has been highlighted very well by jesus.

I spend a fair bit of time in parliament, yes, as well as in the constituency. I wasn't evading your point; you don't seem to have a point, or it's fairly well hidden in amongst the usual anti-tory, duck-house-referenced flaming. It's fair to say that I don't usually agree with JHC's political opinions but he does tend to have a clear point that he sticks to that isn't just "I hate the tories". I know rich people play the system, but that doesn't make it right for people on benefits to cheat the system also. It means they're both wrong.

arista 06-03-2012 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ (Post 5001291)
Arista says children are "fit"
You heard
it here
first


Yes the Criminal Mother said they were Disabled,
but that was a Ruse.

Kizzy 06-03-2012 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 5001295)
I spend a fair bit of time in parliament, yes, as well as in the constituency. I wasn't evading your point; you don't seem to have a point, or it's fairly well hidden in amongst the usual anti-tory, duck-house-referenced flaming. It's fair to say that I don't usually agree with JHC's political opinions but he does tend to have a clear point that he sticks to that isn't just "I hate the tories". I know rich people play the system, but that doesn't make it right for people on benefits to cheat the system also. It means they're both wrong.

I do have a point, read back through my posts ignore the parts that you feel incensed by and hey presto there it is..
I could say the same of your opinion regarding the underclass...but lets not start tit for tatting.... All those in favour say 'Aye'
It does mean they are both wrong, i agree.

Niamh. 06-03-2012 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 5001295)
I spend a fair bit of time in parliament, yes, as well as in the constituency. I wasn't evading your point; you don't seem to have a point, or it's fairly well hidden in amongst the usual anti-tory, duck-house-referenced flaming. It's fair to say that I don't usually agree with JHC's political opinions but he does tend to have a clear point that he sticks to that isn't just "I hate the tories". I know rich people play the system, but that doesn't make it right for people on benefits to cheat the system also. It means they're both wrong.

Exactly, I can't see why that is even being mentioned here tbh, if people don't agree that it's alright for her to do it because some rich people do, why even bring it into the discussion?

Kizzy 06-03-2012 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 5001350)
Exactly, I can't see why that is even being mentioned here tbh, if people don't agree that it's alright for her to do it because some rich people do, why even bring it into the discussion?

Im confused, why bring what?

Jesus. 06-03-2012 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 5001350)
Exactly, I can't see why that is even being mentioned here tbh, if people don't agree that it's alright for her to do it because some rich people do, why even bring it into the discussion?

It's not so much that one excuses the other, it's just that the issue with the rich costs the country/government far more money than benefit cheats, but there are no national campaigns demonising the rich.

People are generally unaware of the problem that rich people avoiding tax/employing loopholes causes, but ask anyone about benefit cheats, and people lose their ****. Poor people inform on their neighbours, and hot lines are set up to encourage this practice.

I think this woman has acted appallingly, and she will be prosecuted. The poor are having the very things they rely on taken away from them to pay for a rich mans caused recession, and politicians are talking about shared sacrifice.

Highlighting the lack of justice, does not absolve a this woman of a theft of government funds, but everyone in the country is against this woman, whilst very few of us are even aware that there is another side to this.

Niamh. 06-03-2012 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by kizzy (Post 5001373)
Im confused, why bring what?

The bit I had bolded in the post that I quoted.

Kizzy 06-03-2012 07:37 PM

Ah i see, why not bring it? its relevant...i made it relevant.

Kizzy 06-03-2012 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ (Post 5001379)
It's not so much that one excuses the other, it's just that the issue with the rich costs the country/government far more money than benefit cheats, but there are no national campaigns demonising the rich.

People are generally unaware of the problem that rich people avoiding tax/employing loopholes causes, but ask anyone about benefit cheats, and people lose their ****. Poor people inform on their neighbours, and hot lines are set up to encourage this practice.

I think this woman has acted appallingly, and she will be prosecuted. The poor are having the very things they rely on taken away from them to pay for a rich mans caused recession, and politicians are talking about shared sacrifice.

Highlighting the lack of justice, does not absolve a this woman of a theft of government funds, but everyone in the country is against this woman, whilst very few of us are even aware that there is another side to this.

Wot he sed.

Niamh. 06-03-2012 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ (Post 5001379)
It's not so much that one excuses the other, it's just that the issue with the rich costs the country/government far more money than benefit cheats, but there are no national campaigns demonising the rich.

People are generally unaware of the problem that rich people avoiding tax/employing loopholes causes, but ask anyone about benefit cheats, and people lose their ****. Poor people inform on their neighbours, and hot lines are set up to encourage this practice.

I think this woman has acted appallingly, and she will be prosecuted. The poor are having the very things they rely on taken away from them to pay for a rich mans caused recession, and politicians are talking about shared sacrifice.

Highlighting the lack of justice, does not absolve a this woman of a theft of government funds, but everyone in the country is against this woman, whilst very few of us are even aware that there is another side to this.

Well, I can't comment on how much it's discussed over there, but here people are far more outraged and angry at our government and their expenses and our bankers and us having to be bailed out because of them, then benefit cheats.

Jesus. 06-03-2012 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 5001401)
Well, I can't comment on how much it's discussed over there, but here people are far more outraged and angry at our government and their expenses and our bankers and us having to be bailed out because of them, then benefit cheats.

We have good ol' Rupert Murdochs press over here, constantly forcing "dole scroungers/benefit cheats/single mums/muslims" down our throats.

The bailouts were completely necessary at the time that they happened, but I bet you've never seen one item on the news/in a newspaper about the money that rich people cost, by avoiding paying what they are legally obliged to pay.

Kizzy 06-03-2012 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 5001401)
Well, I can't comment on how much it's discussed over there, but here people are far more outraged and angry at our government and their expenses and our bankers and us having to be bailed out because of them, then benefit cheats.

Haha, you would think so here too right?...nope theres always a scapegoat. Look for the spin, google 'a good day to bury bad news' you will get what i mean.

Niamh. 06-03-2012 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ (Post 5001418)
We have good ol' Rupert Murdochs press over here, constantly forcing "dole scroungers/benefit cheats/single mums/muslims" down our throats.

The bailouts were completely necessary at the time that they happened, but I bet you've never seen one item on the news/in a newspaper about the money that rich people cost, by avoiding paying what they are legally obliged to pay.

I understand your points and I agree with them as well, I just don't think it excuses people like that women in the news story. I dislike anyone who makes my tax bill higher, I don't discriminate :joker:

Jesus. 06-03-2012 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 5001433)
I understand your points and I agree with them as well, I just don't think it excuses people like that women in the news story. I dislike anyone who makes my tax bill higher, I don't discriminate :joker:

I agree, but the link from this woman to your taxes being increased, is more than a little tenuous.

Niamh. 06-03-2012 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ (Post 5001440)
I agree, but the link from this woman to your taxes being increased, is more than a little tenuous.

Well, it's non existent really as she's British :laugh: but seriously, I hear what you're saying but it's more than just that, it's annoying as well, when I have to work for everything I have,I can't just stay home and look after my kids like she does, and I'm pretty much paying her to do it.

Kizzy 06-03-2012 08:07 PM

And lets never mention multinationals or corporate tax either.

thesheriff443 06-03-2012 10:06 PM

a good man goes no where in politics!

waterhog 06-03-2012 11:32 PM

this is a great story and well done sun - what i am so sad with was - to find out i was one of the fathers lol

Kizzy 07-03-2012 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by madJOE (Post 5001993)
this is a great story and well done sun - what i am so sad with was - to find out i was one of the fathers lol

Haha hey joe 1000 crazy mad posts! keep up the good work! :)

waterhog 07-03-2012 12:47 PM

thanks kizzy - never new that untill you pointed it out to me - thank you miss - i am just behind you - check your review mirror and make sure i dont over take lol


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