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Brother Leon 07-03-2012 08:10 PM

*Fights urge*

Can...no...longer....hold....back



http://i.qkme.me/36hhc4.jpg
:(

InOne 07-03-2012 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by King_Anton (Post 5003399)
The memes I have been shown



I'm going hell :(:joker:

There is already a number of jokes on sickipedia lol

MTVN 07-03-2012 08:13 PM

Yeah, while it has at least increased awareness I wouldn't support Invisible Children and the way they're going about "Kony 2012", if you take a look at these two links

http://visiblechildren.tumblr.com/
http://jezebel.com/5891269/think-twi...e-meme-du-jour

What is interesting to see though is how many people have rallied behind this, people who normally couldn't care less about anything political or about problems in Africa are suddenly posting statuses about it, sharing the video, saying they'll attend and so on, shows the power of Facebook I guess

Brother Leon 07-03-2012 08:18 PM

Hopefully these people rallying do the same for all the Child Soldiers in Africa.

CharlieO 07-03-2012 08:26 PM

That whole truth about invisible children thing is very eye opening. I don't support invisible children at all. All for peace and that but not when the private benefit of the whole organisation outweighs the social benefit.

LemonJam 07-03-2012 09:14 PM

awkward moment when you realise you're on the fence about the campaign and you're the thread creator.

Samuel. 07-03-2012 09:26 PM

Well, the raising awareness part is good regardless if the donation side of things is a bit questionable.

Jords 07-03-2012 09:31 PM

Woah just read that about Invisible Children. 30%? Thats damn right rude and taking advantage of our money.

Not going to donate now. I want a wristband though to help spread the word, might buy 1 off Amazon if any go on.

Ninastar 07-03-2012 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Samuel. (Post 5003740)
Well, the raising awareness part is good regardless if the donation side of things is a bit questionable.

this

raising awareness is free, but paying that amount (which is quite a lot) when only so little goes to the cause is pointless imo

Ramsay 07-03-2012 09:33 PM

are they really allowed do that?

King Gizzard 07-03-2012 09:35 PM

That picture of them holding weapons like hard nuts pissed me off. I'm glad i've gotten to know about Kony, and the government might do something regardless now, but IC themselves...

ILoveTRW 07-03-2012 09:37 PM

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Me. I Am Salman 07-03-2012 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ILoveTRW (Post 5003786)

KMT .. :bored:

Ramsay 07-03-2012 10:03 PM

some of the kony jokes are classss:joker:

Ramsay 07-03-2012 10:04 PM

''Kony can Rape me and my kids any day with his fat cock''
haaaa!!

ILoveTRW 07-03-2012 10:11 PM

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http://t.qkme.me/36hj1c.jpg
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ILoveTRW 07-03-2012 10:14 PM

okay this is the best
http://t.qkme.me/36hkn0.jpg

Patrick 07-03-2012 10:17 PM

It's just annoyed me that people couldn't of got this up in arms about ACTA - considering that affects us alot more than this.

But whatever.

rk3388 07-03-2012 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Karl (Post 5003774)
are they really allowed do that?

unfortunately , yes. :(
It was worse when after the haiti earthquake, some organizations were only giving as little as 12% directly to haiti.
And the funds going directly to the haiti government got even more cut because the government only used a small portion of that to help all of their people :(

rk3388 07-03-2012 10:28 PM

But GOOD ON THEM for the awareness, and hopefully we'll stop kony.

ILoveTRW 07-03-2012 10:33 PM

http://i.imgur.com/IuUFp.jpg

Kizzy 07-03-2012 11:05 PM

How strange, from incensed to just another laff in a couple of hours.

Roy Mars III 07-03-2012 11:06 PM

welcome to the internet

InOne 07-03-2012 11:21 PM

I wonder what Kony's cut in all these donations will be

Ramsay 07-03-2012 11:47 PM

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Shaun 08-03-2012 12:01 AM

I don't think there's anything wrong with Kony jokes... if anything they add to how well-known and widespread he's becoming

Jords 08-03-2012 12:03 AM

You have to point laughter in the darkest of areas else life would be too depressing.

Jords 08-03-2012 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by ILoveTRW (Post 5003786)

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Originally Posted by ILoveTRW (Post 5003886)

:joker::joker:

Ammi 08-03-2012 04:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Jords (Post 5004312)
You have to point laughter in the darkest of areas else life would be too depressing.

..yes..there would be mass suicides if we thought too deeply all the time...balance

Novo 08-03-2012 05:00 AM

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Shaun 08-03-2012 06:11 AM

http://s3.amazonaws.com/www.invisibl...critiques.html

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Thank you for reading this and doing further research about Invisible Children and Kony 2012. In response to this explosion of interest about the Kony 2012 film, there have been hundreds of thousands of comments in support of the arrest of Joseph Kony and the work of Invisible Children. However, there have also been a few pieces written that are putting out false or mis-leading information about these efforts. This statement is our official response to some of these articles and is a source for accurate information about Invisible Children’s mission, financials and approach to stopping LRA violence.

Invisible Children’s mission is to stop LRA violence and support the war affected communities in Central Africa. These are the three ways we achieve that mission. Each is essential: 1) Document and make the world aware of the LRA. This includes making documentary films and touring these films around the world so that they are seen for free by millions of people. 2) Channeling the energy and awareness from informed viewers of IC films into large scale advocacy campaigns that have mobilized the international community to stop the LRA and protect civilians. 3) Operate programs on the ground in the LRA-affected areas to provide protection, rehabilitation and development assistance.

As you will see, we spend roughly one third of our money on each of these three goals. This three-prong approach is what makes invisible children unique. Some organizations focus exclusively on documenting human rights abuses, some focus exclusively on international advocacy or awareness, and some focus exclusively on, on-the-ground development. We do all three. At the same time. This comprehensive model is intentional and has shown to be very effective.
http://s3.amazonaws.com/www.invisibl...ofexpenses.jpg

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Invisible Children’s financial statements are online for everyone to see. Financial statements from the last 5 years, including our 990, are available at www.invisiblechildren.com/financials. The organization spent 80.46% on our programs that further our three fold mission, 16.24% on administration and management costs and 3.22% on direct fundraising in FY2011. Invisible Children is independently audited every year and in full compliance with our 501 c 3 status.

Below is a screen-shot from pages 35 and 36 of the 2011 Invisible Children annual report that detail our total expenses for Fiscal Year 2011. An expense statement by class is the way nonprofits present their expenses to the public because it’s the clearest way to show the purpose of different organizational expenses vs. a line item expense statement such as the one on Page 6 of our Audited Financial Report.
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Re: Charity Navigator Rating

Charity Navigator gives our Programs its highest rating of 4 stars. Our Accountability and Transparency score is currently at 2 stars due primarily to the single fact that Invisible Children does not have 5 independent voting members on our board of directors--we currently have 4. We are in the process of interviewing potential board members, and we will add an additional independent member this year in order to regain our 4-star rating by 2013. We have been independently audited by Considine and Considine, since the fiscal year end of June 30, 2006 and all of our audits have resulted in unqualified opinions on the audit reports.
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Re: Ugandan government human rights record

We do not defend any of the human rights abuses perpetrated by the Ugandan government or the Ugandan army (UPDF). None of the money donated through Invisible Children ever goes to the government of Uganda. Yet the only feasible and proper way to stop Kony and protect the civilians he targets is to coordinate efforts with regional governments.

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Re: Why work with the UPDF if the LRA is no longer in northern Uganda

The LRA left northern Uganda in 2006. The LRA is currently active in Democratic Republic of Congo, Central African Republic, and South Sudan. Invisible Children’s mission is to stop Joseph Kony and the LRA wherever they are and help rehabilitate LRA-affected communities. The Ugandan government’s army, the UPDF, is more organized and better equipped than that of any of the other affected countries (DRC, South Sudan, CAR) to track down Joseph Kony. Part of the US strategy to stop Kony is to encourage cooperation between the governments and armies of the 4 LRA-affected countries. The LRA was active in Uganda for nearly 20 years, displacing 1.7 million people and abducting at least 30,000 children. The people and government of Uganda have a vested interested in seeing him stopped.
There's more in the link about their action plans.

Shaun 08-03-2012 06:14 AM

And a take on their defence from a neutral source :tongue:

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A new campaign spreading across the Internet says it has one goal in mind: Make Joseph Kony, the Ugandan leader of the violent Lord’s Resistance Army (LRA) “famous” so he can be brought to justice.

The viral film was created by Invisible Children, a charity that seeks to end the conflict in Uganda and raises awareness about the use of child soldiers and other human rights abuses by Kony and the LRA.

But some activists have voiced concerns about the methods used by Invisible Children to raise awareness.

Jedediah Jenkins, director of idea development for Invisible Children, called the criticism “myopic” and said the film represented a “tipping point” in that it got young people to care about an issue on the other side of the planet that doesn’t affect them.

#StopKony has been trending worldwide on Twitter since Tuesday, and, as of this writing, the video “Kony2012” has a combined 15 million views on YouTube and Vimeo.

Kony is undeniably brutal, and the World Bank estimates that under his leadership the LRA has abducted and forced around 66,000 children to fight with them during the past two decades. In October, President Obama committed 100 U.S. troops to help the Ugandan army remove Kony.

But in November, a Foreign Affairs article pointedly challenged the tactics used by Invisible Children and other nonprofits working in the region to raise awareness. “Such organizations have manipulated facts for strategic purposes, exaggerating the scale of LRA abductions and murders and emphasizing the LRA’s use of innocent children as soldiers, and portraying Kony — a brutal man, to be sure — as uniquely awful, a Kurtz-like embodiment of evil,” the magazine wrote.

One of Invisible Children’s partner organizations, Resolve, responded to the accusation at the time in a blog post, calling it a “serious charge ... published with no accompanying substantiation.”

Jenkins maintained Wednesday that the numbers the charity uses are not exaggerated, as they are the same numbers used by Human Rights Watch and the U.N.

Charity Navigator, a U.S.-based charity evaluator, gives Invisible Children three out of four stars overall, four stars financially, and two stars for accountability and transparency.

Invisible Children has two stars, Jenkins said, because the charity has only four independent board members instead of five. He said it is currently interviewing for a fifth position.

A bill Invisible Children helped pass into law in 2009 has also been criticized. The bill is designed to support stabilization and peace in Uganda and areas affected by the LRA. Critics say it has strengthened the hand of the Ugandan president, whose security forces have a human rights abuse record of their own. The Enough Project, an NGO that fights genocide and human rights abuses, has said the bill’s bipartisan support showed people “come together for peace.”

“There is a huge problem with political corruption in Africa,” said Jenkins. “If we had the purity to say we will not partner with anyone corrupt, we couldn’t partner with anyone.”

Human rights activists agree, however, that the abuses of the LRA are far worse than those of Uganda’s security forces. Over the past two decades, the LRA made it common practice to enter towns and kill the adults, take the male children as soldiers, and sexually abuse the female children.

Lt. Col. Mamadou Gaye, a military spokesman for a United Nations stabilization mission in the Democratic Republic of Congo, said recently that the LRA “has been weakened” by military efforts. The group is believed to now have only about 250 armed members. Gen. Carter Ham, the head of U.S. Africa Command, said recently that Kony was no longer in Uganda.

On April 20, Invisible Children is calling on its supporters to stop Kony and the LRA’s campaign once and for all — by using the social media and viral tactics that have made “Kony2012” so widespread.

“This is the day when we will meet at sundown and blanket every street in every city until the sun comes up,” Jason Russell, who directed the film for Invisible Children, says in the video. “The rest of the world will go to bed Friday night and wake up to hundreds of thousands of posters demanding justice.”

But “Visible Children,” a Tumblr blog that has received much attention for questioning the efforts of Invisible Children, wrote Wednesday that those social media tactics aren’t helping. “These problems are highly complex, not one-dimensional and, frankly, aren’t of the nature that can be solved by postering, film-making and changing your Facebook profile picture, as hard as that is to swallow,” the blog wrote.

Jenkins doesn’t agree. “There is only so much policymakers and foundations can do,” he said. He thinks that if a high schooler and a adult were asked today who Joseph Kony is, only the high schooler would know the answer, as a result of Invisible Children’s film.

“The film has reached a place in the global consciousness where people know who Kony is, they know his crimes,” Jenkins said. “Kids know and they respond. And then they won’t allow it to happen anymore.”
From the Washington Post.

Scarlett. 08-03-2012 09:50 PM

So yeah, these are the guys who are behind "Invisible Children"

http://www.scarlettlion.com/blog/wp-...eChildrenA.jpg

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The group is in favour of direct military intervention, and their money supports the Ugandan government’s army and various other military forces. Here’s a photo of the founders of Invisible Children posing with weapons and personnel of the Sudan People’s Liberation Army. Both the Ugandan army and Sudan People’s Liberation Army are riddled with accusations of rape and looting, but Invisible Children defends them, arguing that the Ugandan army is “better equipped than that of any of the other affected countries”, although Kony is no longer active in Uganda and hasn’t been since 2006 by their own admission. These books each refer to the rape and sexual assault that are perennial issues with the UPDF, the military group Invisible Children is defending.

Still, the bulk of Invisible Children’s spending isn’t on supporting African militias, but on awareness and filmmaking. Which can be great, except that Foreign Affairs has claimed that Invisible Children (among others) “manipulates facts for strategic purposes, exaggerating the scale of LRA abductions and murders and emphasizing the LRA’s use of innocent children as soldiers, and portraying Kony — a brutal man, to be sure — as uniquely awful, a Kurtz-like embodiment of evil.” He’s certainly evil, but exaggeration and manipulation to capture the public eye is unproductive, unprofessional and dishonest.
There's much more to this than meets the eye


Donating money or drawing attention to 'Invisble Children' means you are funding a charity who funds the Sudan People's Liberation Army, who themselves rape and pillage villages. I think this thread should be unstickied for these reasons

Brother Leon 08-03-2012 09:52 PM

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Samuel. 08-03-2012 09:56 PM

Kony 2012 =/= Invisible Children

I don't get the impression many are donating anyway. Raising awareness of who Joseph Kony is and getting the US government to care seem to be the main focus of the campaign.

Me. I Am Salman 08-03-2012 09:59 PM

Dont trust this anymore.

Z 08-03-2012 10:30 PM

http://i.imgur.com/FPEBn.jpg

Samuel. 09-03-2012 09:45 AM

Best Kony joke yet

Benjamin 09-03-2012 12:37 PM

This is one mass brainwash. I'm actually surprised how easily so many got sucked into this.

Iceman 09-03-2012 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ukturtle (Post 5006831)
This is one mass brainwash. I'm actually surprised how easily so many got sucked into this.

Yup and I was without Internet for 2 days logged on and hadnt a breeze who or what people were talking about.


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