So he is basicaly known for that 21 second to go part he sings? Is that all really?

I had never heard of him, but my 18 yr old said ,yes ONE single ,where he was backing singer, Hardly Rod Stewart is he?

Harvey is OK in my opinion but, yeah, his voice is annoying.

:joker::joker:

I can do like a brother do it like a dude.... Lyrics written and sung by Jessie J. A Londoner. Never cock or sparrow.

Tim Westwood Radio 1 DJ and model for Sacha Baron Cohen's Ali G satire is originally from Suffolk but has lived for decades for in London can often be heard using the terms dude homey and "honestly baby I get love out there pure and simple" :laugh2: :laugh2:

:dance::dance:.......I can do it like a brother do like a dude.
Grab my crotch wear my hat low like you
I can do it like a brother do like a dude.
Grab my crotch wear my hat low like you :dance:

How many"get what im saying" did he ram into one sentence tonight ?

"ram" is a very street term.
Very London. As in...... "it's very ram in 'ere"
You beginning to sound just like him :joker:

And cheating on Alesha Dixon lol

To be fair, they're all one hit wonders, big heads, dying for attention and their careers are over.

Not this nonsense again :(.

Accent has absolutely nothing to do with skin colour. If you're born in a particular region (or have lived there long enough) and hang out with people who have that regional accent, you'll pick up that regional accent. It's that simple. I'm guessing this guy is from Inner City London or Croydon, born and bred there and has hung around with people who speak 'Jafaican' (Multicultural London English, an accent that consists of West Indian toned down by remnants of Cockney).

There are plenty of black people with traditional, working class Cockney accents and plenty of whites who speak 'Jafaican' so that argument simply doesn't work.

To say otherwise - and even go on to call him a 'twat' because of his accent - would be ignorance I can only compare to thinking Canada is a small town in South Yorkshire.

Rubbish. It's an actual London accent - most usually spoken by people under 30 from that area.
Exactly.
You are. It's a regional accent. It may have only evolved in the past 20 years but it's still a regional accent so I suggest you pick up a book and get your facts right before you start spouting ignorant, offensive bile on here.

In fact, all your posts on this thread have been so ill-informed that you sound more uneducated than you think these people you're describing do.

not mike

he is still famous in the US

hopefully they reveal the amount of money in his bank, that should get danica come out of her shell more.

If it's an actual London accent, why is it that I can tell black people talking on the radio when they come out with that shi te accent?

It's horrendous.

So you're saying that being black people automatically rules them out for speaking with traditional London accents? Wow. You have a long way to go.

I've encountered loads of blacks who have Cockney accents and whites who speak 'Jafaican'. Different people have different accents. Smart people don't take to it automatically. Saying 'how cum I can tell blacks speaking on the radio' is not empirical evidence at all to speak for an entire race. Entirely anecdotal.

As for the 'it's horrendous' bit: so? I personally like the accents and find them quite colourful. It's all down to subjectivity and personal taste as to whether you like these accents but they are London accents. What if I said I don't like Cockney accents? Does that mean that I'd be absolutely justified and incisive in saying that they're not proper London accents?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multicu...London_English
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...ns-422688.html
http://dialectblog.com/2011/11/03/mu...ral-london-oo/

When I listen to interviews on radio, it turns out 99% of the time that I can tell by the way they talk, whether they are white or black.

Sorry that goes against your theory.

Did you actually read my post? What about all the times I've heard white people with the exact same accents as you're describing? Or is that somehow different and are your personal experiences the only substantial ones?

I'm just saying that I can tell 99% of the time whether someone is white or black when they speak on the radio.

Are you saying I'm wrong for some reason?

No I'm not saying you're wrong on that basis. That's your personal experience, which is fine.

What you're wrong in is ascribing that accent towards all black people and I went on to counteract your ridiculous argument that usually only blacks talk like that by using my personal experience and actually substantiating my opinions with actual facts and statistics. I'm yet to see what justification you have for your argument, other than your own personal experience.

I'm not saying all blacks talk like that.

I'm just saying that when I hear someone talk like that, he's usually black.

What's wrong with that, innit?

What's wrong with that is that there are probably just as many whites as blacks who talk like that so using your own personal experience to make that statement proves nothing. I refer you to the links I posted earlier on this page.

Utter nonsense.

Get a grip. I can distinguish them easily, the vast majority of the time.

Don't talk crap and tell me I can't.

I don't even know where to start with that poorly-worded piece of nonsense. I would strongly encourage you to research accents in inner city London. This argument has been proven by statistics and extensive research by people qualified in the profession and I would suggest you understand the rudiments of the topic and no I'm not on about using your personal experience but obvious, proven data.

Your argument that in your personal experience people who talk like that are almost always black bore no contextual relation with the actual topic at hand.

In fact that argument can - and has been - completely counteracted and neutralised by anyone else's patented, individualised and personal experiences - and vice versa - which totally neutralises and obliterates your own argument?

And that's me done with you. You will undoubtedly find some way to distort and ignore the statistics I provide you and keep spouting the same crap, which makes arguing with you a pointless endeavor.

Any other attempt I try at making a coherent, logical argument will undoubtedly be dismissed by you in that oh-so-wonderful, smart tone in a desperate bid to make it look like you have the better of the situation when it just amounts to you overtly making the same ill-informed, pointless 'points' over and over and over again.

And yet, after all that drivel, I can still distinguish between a black guy and a white guy on radio.

It kind of makes your argument a pile of pish.

Sorry about that, Professor.

You are really coming off as ignorant right now and a little stereotypical

I completely abhor his stupid, fake accent...bright he is not...

Well I don't like the Birmingham accent but meh what you gonna do.