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arista 08-12-2012 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yukon Cornelius (Post 5681075)
Shock horror the Mail took this comment down, sums it up perfectly I think

http://i.imgur.com/HI5E9.gif



Yes, although this Prank was
YouTube, TV and World radio.

Newspapers are not at fault
they are just reporting news

Z 08-12-2012 10:56 PM

Except that the newspapers are at fault - this didn't need to be a news story, it could have easily just been kept to the listeners of that Australian radio station, but instead they made it a huge scandal.

arista 08-12-2012 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blitzeen (Post 5681214)
Except that the newspapers are at fault - this didn't need to be a news story, it could have easily just been kept to the listeners of that Australian radio station, but instead they made it a huge scandal.


It Went Viral on Youtube
then World TV news and Radio

So the papers - all of them had to report it.



The DJ's are at fault

Sticks 09-12-2012 05:17 AM

The fault was with the hospital

The had no trained receptionist on to screen the initial call.

Shaun 09-12-2012 05:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yukon Cornelius (Post 5681075)
Shock horror the Mail took this comment down, sums it up perfectly I think

http://i.imgur.com/HI5E9.gif

this is perfect

why are we discussing this? why is this news? no one is privy to the motives of the woman's suicide, and aside from some royal~element~ i fail to see how it's an important story

people suck.

Ammi 09-12-2012 05:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sticks (Post 5677757)
She may have felt that by passing on the call instead of screening it out for what it was, she behaved dishonourably and when you do that you are required to fall on your sword.

For her the only honourable thing would be to kill herself.

We are told she was from overseas and her native culture may have added into this issue of honour

That is the only way I could explain this.

..yeah, that's a possibility Sticks..to some cultures, honour is everything...I wonder if that would be how her family would feel as well though...

arista 09-12-2012 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turboman (Post 5681600)
this is perfect

why are we discussing this? why is this news? no one is privy to the motives of the woman's suicide, and aside from some royal~element~ i fail to see how it's an important story

people suck.


Because at first the prank was funny,
and her death has changed it all
those DJ's are not well know down under
so sack the feckers



Also it was pre-recorded
so sack the CEO of the sation as well

lily. 09-12-2012 03:16 PM

Anyone who works in the medical profession knows that you NEVER give out information on a patient over the phone.

So for that reason, the blame lies with the person who did just that. That person should have been dealt with in the same fashion as if it were a regular Joe Bloggs patient.. possibly a warning, and a suspension. The hospital staff are to blame for breaching basic confidentiality rules.

I don't think the DJs have anything to answer for here to be honest. They played a prank. They didn't do it maliciously. They weren't trying to elicit information from the hospital, and they said beforehand that they didn't expect to get away with much more than a few sentences because of their dreadful accents.

I'm no buying that this woman has taken her own life as a result of making a mistake at work. That would be a gross over-reaction. She has a husband and two children. There must have been more going on in her own life for her to reach this point.

Unless of course, she was receiving abuse and/or threats from the public as a result of her error. In which case, that should be investigated.

It's all quite tragic. A woman is dead, and her family deserve to know the reason why.

Mrluvaluva 09-12-2012 10:37 PM

Are the press now going to hound the DJ's until we have another tragedy on our hands? We don't need the irony.

arista 09-12-2012 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mrluvaluva (Post 5683927)
Are the press now going to hound the DJ's until we have another tragedy on our hands? We don't need the irony.



No as they are in a Secret house
and can Fade Away.

Mrluvaluva 09-12-2012 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 5683936)
No as they are in a Secret house
and can Fade Away.

Oh of course. That will quell their psychological nightmare obviously.

Mrluvaluva 10-12-2012 06:06 AM

The DJ's have given TV interviews which are due to be broadcast within the next half an hour.

arista 10-12-2012 06:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mrluvaluva (Post 5684292)
The DJ's have given TV interviews which are due to be broadcast within the next half an hour.

Yes On SkyNewsHD

arista 10-12-2012 06:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mrluvaluva (Post 5684292)
The DJ's have given TV interviews which are due to be broadcast within the next half an hour.



Yes but they are not going to
topp themselves

AnnieK 10-12-2012 06:34 AM

Quote:


I don't think the DJs have anything to answer for here to be honest. They played a prank. They didn't do it maliciously. They weren't trying to elicit information from the hospital, and they said beforehand that they didn't expect to get away with much more than a few sentences because of their dreadful accents.

Agree with this. It was also pre-recorded and vetted by the station lawyers so they are even less culpable IMO. Hindsight is a wonderful thing but we are not blessed with it unfortunately.

As lily has said a woman is dead, a husband without a wife and 2 children are without a mother now, my thoughts and concerns are with them.

Mrluvaluva 10-12-2012 06:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 5684294)
Yes but they are not going to
topp themselves

You cannot make a call on that. We all know what hounding by the media can cause. Imagine the weight of something like this on your shoulders? Continued pressure could send either of them to breaking point.

Ammi 10-12-2012 07:15 AM

The radio DJs behind a prank call to the hospital treating the pregnant Duchess of Cambridge have apologised after the nurse they duped apparently took her own life.

2Day FM presenters Mel Greig and Michael Christian were posing as the Queen and Prince Charles when they got Jacintha Saldanha to put them through to another nurse, who divulged details of Kate's treatment for severe morning sickness.

In their first interview since the tragedy, Ms Greig said she wanted to say sorry to Ms Saldanha's husband and two children.

"I've just thought about this a million times in my head that I've wanted to just reach out to them and just give them a big hug and say sorry," she said, wiping away tears.

"I hope they're OK, I really do. I hope they get through this."

Mr Christian said: "We just hope that they get all the love and support and care that they need."

When asked how he felt he simply said: "Gutted, shattered, heartbroken."

Ms Greig told of the moment she was told of Ms Saldanha's death, describing it as "the worst phone call I've ever had in my life".

"I haven't stopped thinking about it since it happened. I remember my first question was 'was she a mother?'"

The pair said the prank call idea came up in a team meeting, and that it was "collaborative" rather than a single individual's idea.

The DJs are on indefinite leave and have been getting "intensive" counselling to deal with the death of Ms Saldanha


..my heart goes out to these djs...it all went so horribly wrong, but they couldn't have known that...I hope this puts an end to any negative media or public attention..and lets them start to heal themselves...a lot of people have suffered through this...and yes..they were part of it..but imo not a part which was intentionally malicious in anyway....

Jords 10-12-2012 07:42 AM

I feel really bad for the DJs, they wont be able to not think they are (partly) responsible for this :/

Kizzy 10-12-2012 08:02 AM

that's because they are, in life you have to take responsibility fir your own actions to grow as a person.
To hound a pregnant woman in hospital, that should never have even been suggested imo.

InOne 10-12-2012 08:06 AM

I don't get why they keep using the "We tried 5 times to get through to the Hospital to get consent" argument to defend themselves. It's hard to believe they tried it 5 times yet still broadcast it anyway... And if they did it was pretty silly, for something like that they should've waited until they got consent.

the truth 10-12-2012 09:19 AM

tens of thousands of patients die every year from nursing negligence and abuse and barely a word is said....yet this one tragic story of 1 nurse gets thousandsof pages written about it. the whole disaster wasn just due to a tacky nasty prank but to the insatiable tacky greedy 24 hour news and tabloid trash that magnified the pressure and embarassment on this one pressurised person. very sad story, but blame should be shared beteen the pranksters and the media.

arista 10-12-2012 12:45 PM

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/...66_634x399.jpg

Yes Cry you bitch


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-hospital.html

arista 10-12-2012 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elf Ears (Post 5684308)
I feel really bad for the DJs, they wont be able to not think they are (partly) responsible for this :/



You Would

Jesus. 10-12-2012 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 5684486)

It's a bit harsh, Arista.

She played a joke. That's it.

Kizzy 10-12-2012 12:52 PM

Read the interview in the Guardian this morning, quite ironic that she called for the family to be given some privacy don't you think?

arista 10-12-2012 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ (Post 5684497)
It's a bit harsh, Arista.

She played a joke. That's it.


Yes a illegal prank
No Permission given.


The first day they loved it
Promo for their little station.
Getting New Ratings etc


Life is Tough

Jesus. 10-12-2012 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 5684549)
Yes a illegal prank
No Permission given.


The first day they loved it
Promo for their little station.
Getting New Ratings etc


Life is Tough

People have been doing these as long as telephones have existed. It's a tragedy that she committed suicide, but over the last few years I can remember people getting through to Sarkosy, Sarah Palin, an American governor called Scott Walker, and those are recent ones. No deaths resulted from them.

These people will have to live with this, and that is punishment enough. I don't want to live in a society where people aren't allowed to be stupid from time to time.

arista 10-12-2012 02:27 PM

Yes but thats a Prank with Stars or MP's

This was a Nurse who is living alone in her special work flat


You can not compare the others to this Lady from India

Jesus. 10-12-2012 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 5684567)
Yes but thats a Prank with Stars or MP's

This was a Nurse who is living alone in her special work flat


You can not compare the others to this Lady from India

Wasn't the prank to see if they could get through? They didn't set out to target this nurse.

Kazanne 10-12-2012 02:34 PM

I think these two were idiots,just what did they expect to gain?and,to target Kate and William at such a intimate time was just insensitive and all in pursuit of a 'prank' They now have the gall to sob and weep on tele,how terrible life is for them.

Vicky. 10-12-2012 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yukon Cornelius (Post 5681075)
Shock horror the Mail took this comment down, sums it up perfectly I think

http://i.imgur.com/HI5E9.gif

I agree.

Not surprising it was taken down. The mail dont like people who talk sense commenting on their articles.

arista 10-12-2012 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ (Post 5684570)
Wasn't the prank to see if they could get through? They didn't set out to target this nurse.

Yes but it was That nurse
thet let them in the building.

It was her on that late night Switchboard.


They the 2 DJ's have Blood On Their Hands

Jesus. 10-12-2012 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 5684575)
Yes but it was That nurse
thet let them in the building.

It was her on that late night Switchboard.


They the 2 DJ's have Blood On Their Hands

No they don't, and using the "bold" function doesn't add gravitas to your point.

Niamh. 10-12-2012 02:41 PM

I agree that if blame needs to be put anywhere that the Press should bear the brunt of it.

AnnieK 10-12-2012 02:55 PM

To be honest I feel the attitude to these djs is very sad, there is culpability on so many levels:

1 - the hospital should have had trained staff manning the telephone, especially at the time they have the wife of the future heir to the throne as a patient
2 - as lily said earlier as sad as it is the nurse should not have given out confidential information, she should not have been allowed to cover the phones if she was unaware of the fundamental rules governing patient confidentiality
3 - the Australian radio station and it's legal team. In my mind the djs were pawns in this more than anything, thy will have been told to try the prank etc. the legal team then sanctioned the broadcast.
4 - the press who have since played and replayed and written about it.

I could go on but to then persecute these two people only is ridiculous and smells of scapegoating as far as I am concerned. It's a terrible tragedy but as I said before hindsight is a wonderful thing, this cannot have be foreseen ending this badly.

arista 10-12-2012 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ (Post 5684578)
No they don't, and using the "bold" function doesn't add gravitas to your point.


I never Claimed it Did

arista 10-12-2012 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Christmas Neeve (Post 5684582)
I agree that if blame needs to be put anywhere that the Press should bear the brunt of it.


No the Press
are a Function - They did not do the Fecking prank


The 2 DJ's Tipped that nurses world so bad
she wanted death

Jesus. 10-12-2012 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 5684623)
I never Claimed it Did

But you used it.

Arista, you make me laugh and frustrated in equal measure at different times.

Let's just play out your scenario.

Let's say we arrest them, fly them over here to face trial, and then lock them away for 10 years.

Then what? What has that done, really? It doesn't achieve anything.

arista 10-12-2012 03:14 PM

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/...73_634x372.jpg


Guilty of Illegal Prank.


Hackers are going to close the station down
if they return


Sign Of The Times

arista 10-12-2012 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ (Post 5684632)
But you used it.

Arista, you make me laugh and frustrated in equal measure at different times.

Let's just play out your scenario.

Let's say we arrest them, fly them over here to face trial, and then lock them away for 10 years.

Then what? What has that done, really? It doesn't achieve anything.


No sack them.


Then they can Fly top another nation like America


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