I did not say that at all my point was that he is no angel and his actions on that clip were far worse than standing up & raising voice like razor did! Just wanted to point you in the direction of that thread is all.. people are quick to judge Razor (he apologised realised what he had done) but at least he stood up and defended his Hm's / friends - spencer is not innocent as people make him out to be

razor was close to doing something he wasn't messing about his chest was out like a ape lol and if spencer had said anything bad at that moment he'd of been on him but spencer didn't.
bb were right to warn him so he doesn't go to far if it occurs again. its only sensible.

plus you got remember its spencer heidi not just spencer here at risk , you cant have women getting caught in fights cause some ape wants to do there husband. in on tv.

He said sorry to them both & said it wont happen again, he was ok with the argument but said Spencer went to far & was getting nasty, thats when he got annoyed. A telling off from BB yes but not a formal warning.

I haven't seen any Speidi fans claim Spencer is innocent?

If Spencer had done what Razor did in the BB house I'd say the same as I have about Razor about Spencer too.

Spencer accepted Razor's apology and shook his hand. Then he went into the diary room and demanded to speak to the executive producer and his lawyer. When this series started Speidi fans were saying he would rule the house, he wouldn't put up with any crap... turns out that's not true.

Still... looking forward to seeing the reaction of the house if they ever play Speidi's comments about the others on the screen, and hoping BB are not going to spend the whole series kissing the arses of the Pratts.

they will,speidi have bb where they want.

I have to disagree. They'll have signed a contract, BB know what's expected of them, and what's expected of Speidi. I'm sure they're not more intelligent that the producers and have some kind of master plan they're putting into action.

I think they get a lot of adoration on this forum... but off the forum I think most people think they're a pair of dorks. We'll see, though.

time will tell,but we are not privy to there contract,but if they play, the we are concerned about our safety there is not much bb can do about it.

Oh, well if we're going on past evidence. How about Razor deliberately breaking a players legs. Nothing like what Spencer did there.

No, we're not privvy to their contract, but you have to assume that, as they've been writing up contracts for this show for a while now, and bearing in mind stuff that has gone on before, they will have become quite skilled at covering their arses. And really, after this stuff that BB has orchestrated, they must have known something would kick off. I mean, it's Razor Ruddock. Unless they didn't know who he was when they signed him, they must have known there was a chance he would kick off. And the whole things has been terribly unfair, giving Speidi all the power and really attempting to incite an incident like that.

That only serves to strengthen my argument that BB knew exactly who they were signing, and the fault is theirs for setting out to incite an argument.

Agree.
BB knew exactly who they were getting with Razor & Spencer.
If you are going to deliberately set up a situation for people to argue then you have to accept that the fault is yours when the argument goes to far.

Perhaps then knobhead Spencer should think twice about verberlly and mentally abusing people... He would not have dared mocked Razor like that because he knows he would react. Spencer is a coward and a bully and thats exactly what Razor was getting angry about.
Spencer needs to see that he provokes reaction in his manipulation and as I said earlier...people like him will one day get what they truly deserve.
You can be physically intimidating and mentally intimidating... both warrant the same warning IMO...

Let's be fair, he only intended to break one of his legs

:joker:

Yeah. Razor said that on the clip. Nice fella. :joker:

Wait. Lol

So you're saying Razor was wrong to be warned but both actually should have been? Which one?

I can't speak for Rusticgal, but my interpretation is that both parties should have been warned, or neither.

No. He didn't deserve one but BB were just covering themselves after all the whingers during the Summer who complained about Connor

i think it's the other way round.
spencer and hiedi thought they held all the cards when they presumed they knew what the house had been saying about them, but the house didnt know what they had been saying about the house....when in reality, BB had shown rylan just enough for him to take those cards away by deciding that he would steam into them before they could start any confrontation on their own terms.
(im not 100% sure that's clear but wtf):conf:

I know Razor and from what we saw on TV, he did NOT deserve to be given a formal warning. If it had been Frankie that had stood up to Speidi or one of the girls, this would not have been an issue - it is only because of Razor's height and frame that they got scared. Razor is a lovely man and was just trying to stop Speidi from intimidating every other housemate, which is what they were doing.

I know many will not agree with me but the way Speidi were behaving, someone needed to step in and calm the situation down. Anything Razor may or may not have done in the past was then, this is now and the reason so many are getting upset is because of his size. Like I said, if it had been Frankie...................

It's just like the old Shri/Marcus thing, bullying only ever seems to work one way in BB land. If you're a minority, more famous, smaller than the other guy etc you can basically do what you like.

Razor was aggressive but hey it was entertaining to watch. :)

I still can't believe some people here think Razor deserved a formal warning, it's just because Speidi's the Chosen Ones (both on the forums and with production) so they can do no wrong and anyone who crosses them is evil. All Razor did was raise his voice and stand up, how intimidating :rolleyes:

Um no he came towards them and had to be held back

Razor explained himself it was a tactic in football to defuse situations. He would've never have gone at them or got anywhere near to attacking them.

he's a repulsive hippo he was ready to launch himself at them

http://images.yuku.com/image/png/357...b7770d08_r.png

Yes, he certainly came towards them, how intimidating :joker:

You're disgusting.

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Using a still image is idiotic, it doesn't prove anything so stop trying to act smart.

The way the beast got up from the sofa and speed at which it tried to head towards them was intimidating.

doesn't bother me :wink:

How about you stop trying to act smart when you're one of the biggest cases of tunnel vision on this forum. That's as close as he got. But if you really want video to see the speed (or lack thereof) he got up from the couch, here ya go.

http://www.tubechop.com/watch/840673

How Dare He Stand Up And Raise His Voice :rolleyes:

Yep I've just rewatched it and now I think you're even more deluded

Your persistence only proves how deluded you are so keep it up

If I hadn't just come off a ban I would eat you up

Ooh I'm sure you would :joker:

Somebody needs to give Salman! a moderating position.

They're not on a football pitch now though :nono:

But it worked in the house too :pipe:

Intimidating people into resolving an argument is not on.