Just a thought, all the people that are outraged at the expense of Mrs Thatchers funeral should probably think about the vast amount of money being spent to protect property and generally police it ,it will probably cost more than the funeral itself,but you can bet the 'cost' wont bother them as long as they are getting their rocks off trying to prove what? they didn't like her or agree with her policies,well we all know that already ,but it doesn't stop them getting their 15 mins of fame.Do they think about THAT money that will be used to keep them in order?bet they don't.

[QUOTE=Kazanne;5932240]Just a thought, all the people that are outraged at the expense of Mrs Thatchers funeral should probably think about the vast amount of money being spent to protect property and generally police it ,it will probably cost more than the funeral itself,but you can bet the 'cost' wont bother them as long as they are getting their rocks off trying to prove what? they didn't like her or agree with her policies,well we all know that already ,but it doesn't stop them getting their 15 mins of fame.Do they think about THAT money that will be used to keep them in order?bet they don't.[/Q

I'm pretty sure the 10 million price tag includes security Kazanne, I feel her funeral will be a target for every and anyone who feels the need to protest on the day, which to me makes the decision to hold such a public displayf or such a divisive ex leader all the more ridiculous, a misuse of the police and public funds.

[QUOTE=Cherie;5932267]I just don't know why people cant 'rejoice' at home with a few bevvies and friends around,lol,I just think that for SOME it is an excuse to go out there and destroy other peoples property ,it's not their faults ,I find it all rather pointless,as it wont hurt or affect the lady concerned.On a plus note,how are you Cherie?:hugesmile:

good thanks Kazanne!

Well as maggie herself said there is no such thing as free money, it's public money.
Taxpayers money...
So seeing as the public paid for this shindig is it not right and fair they are invited?
I see the spin that it is only the 'loony lefties' or 'phillpots' that are opposed to this, But wait... on the front pages of the papers, teachers and policemen too!
So called 'strivers' ... What on earth can their grievance be?

Nothing wrong with popping along Kizzy,but do you really think people need to vent their anger so angrily by destroying property etc,I cant see what any of it will achieve?:hugesmile:have to say this has been a great thread.

If this had been as Margaret Thatcher it seems herself wanted, a low key, more private and dignified funeral this attention would likely have been avoided at a massively reduced cost too.

I think it is obscene and the fact taxpayers are going to fund any of it will only inflame the anger at it.
There was no need at all to have created this show/farce, all that had to be done was what she wanted as with her Husband Dennis's funeral.
I find it distasteful that her funeral has been hijacked by her Party and that her family have allowed it to be too.

As I said in a previous post, my Parents are lifelong Conservative supporters but they are furious that taxpayers money is being used in any way for a retired PMs funeral.
No matter who they are.

the £10 million price tag is clearly a lie...the entire policing, trafficking, congestion, security, damage incurred, the cost of closing parts of london down etc the figure will be huge and this is why cameron wont discuss it.
her star shone brightly but when the smoke cleared and all the hollow speeches were spoken, we realise there was less to her that met the eye. by this time net month I doubt anyone will want to discuss her much ever again

these elitist people wasting tax payers money are plain greedy and selfish hypocrites, the same so called free marketeers who got the pubic to bail out the banks with pubic money? so shes leaving as she lived , all me me me and all paid for by the society she said doesnt exist..

Who said you could borrow my crystal ball?.. ;)
It hasn't happened yet, who knows if there will be any destruction of property, I am in the hope there may be a peaceful protest, but who can say?
People have already been forced out of their jobs for voicing their opinion, Kim Jong Un would be proud of the way we silence critics of fascistic regimes here....

Considering her reign was almost defined by budget cuts and tax rises it seems quite ironic to spend so much on her funeral, I doubt she'd want such a big affair so I don't see the point in doing it in such a way.

:love: :love: :love:

Have no real problem with it tbh, she was the PM who had the biggest impact on our country since Churchill and I have nothing against acknowledging that fact, she is by no means the first to receive a taxpayer funded funeral and she won't be the last

Ahem...
Clement Attlee

Labour | 1945 - 1951

Clement Attlee enlarged and improved social services and the public sector in post-war Britain; creating the National Health Service and nationalising major industries and public utilities.
Clement Attlee was leader of the Labour Party from 1935 to 1955, and served as Britain’s Prime Minister from 1945 to 1951. As Prime Minister, Attlee oversaw the rebuilding of post-war Britain, and the birth of the nation’s Welfare State. More than one survey of academics has voted Attlee the most successful British Prime Minister of all time.

http://www.number10.gov.uk/past-prim...lement-attlee/

20yrs as an excellent reformer and PM, no state funeral...

Bishop of Grantham : Cost of Thatcher's funeral a 'mistake'
 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-22125280

Good for Bishop ..... :thumbs:

We pay enough taxes to keep the dregs of life in prisons etc,so can't see this will make much of a dent.

The Bishop is right it is a mistake and a big one,
I am not happy that this funeral is being organised by people who could well fund the entire proceedings themselves from their own means, from voluntary donors and the Conservative party of which she was a major part.
So there should be no need for the voters/taxpayers to have to fund any of it unless they wanted to voluntary donate in some way to the event.

Slightly different situation though Kaz, surely you see that?

The private company idea was the best.

Margaret Thatcher's funeral - sponsored by Pringles

Blair is going - I hope he does not Want Another Fee for it.

He's already getting one, his security paid for by the taxpayer.

Yes but thats normal

I do see that,but I also see that we waste so much money on unnecessary things that this one wont make much of a difference and it will go ahead anyway,I don't think it needed to be done either they should have just had a quiet affair and let her go with some semblance of decency.

It shouldn't have to be. I think anyway.

To the bit in bold, I 100% agree, what this funeral will do will only leave more resentment towards her from those who already were hostile and long after this funeral too.
A quieter affair with even special services later could have likely not had a greater effect on resentment already there.

As you state, let her go with some, although I would have said much greater, semblance of decency in a quieter and more dignified way.

Seeing as this is meant to be a democracy, and this is a funeral funded by the public, would a vote as to who agreed with this have not been better?
My opinion now is this is a freak show.

But New Labour set all this up well before her death
as she kept having strokes. (Ref: Ch4News today)


So Your Anger should be at Blair /Brown

Fact

britain is not a democracy, its a constitutional monarchy, this totallt pervert sdemocracy. you cant have a proper democracy with a monarchy. as it stands because we have the monarchy , yet theyre powerless this makes the prime minister all powerful and in effect a king. as we see when our prime ministers get into power they can do anything they like even without running it through the cabinet. the whips and the power brokers, allied to self interest, ensure most if not all their crazy bills are passed. ps why hasnt labour spoken out agains this being funded by the state?

i think the blame can be shared equally

Police to arrest people who turn their backs on coffin? :S

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2...?commentpage=2

Crushing democracy eh.... who is doing this now?

Fitting that the policing at her funeral will be as disgusting and over the top as it was as when she was alive and in power

Hang on they've seen sense...
Protesters planning to demonstrate along the route of Lady Thatcher's funeral procession have been given the go-ahead by police to turn their backs on the former prime minister's coffin as it makes its way through central London to St Paul's.

Scotland Yard has repeatedly asked people planning demonstrations to let them know in advance, warning that anyone causing "harassment, alarm or distress" could be arrested under section 5 of the Public Order Act.

But Rebecca Lush Blum, 41, from Hampshire, who has set up a Facebook event calling on people to turn their back on the funeral procession, said she had spoken to the police and had been reassured that her protest could go ahead near the Royal Courts of Justice.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2...testers-police

Vicky they should not be there
if they want to be rude.


For Feck Sake its a Funeral

you are getting as bad as Kizzy, sadly.

This article is very fitting and I understand totally what this guy means here...


Margaret Thatcher never liked her country

Thatcher may have draped herself in the flag, but she didn't understand what really made Britain great

''There is nothing more subversive than a definition of happiness, a vision of how things could be better. Thatcher, of course, dismissed the very idea that politics could make things better. We would not build Jerusalem; we would deregulate our green and pleasant land and hope the markets would build it for us. This diminished view of politics is the most potent part of her legacy. We are facing a housing crisis. Are we going to build houses? No, we're going to stimulate the market, even though we now know the market is run by skanks and jackasses. This distrust of the state is something which she imported from America. It's not British.

The British have many happy memories of state intervention. It was the state that won the war, the state that founded the NHS and gave us free milk when we were little. We have always believed in the possibility of Jerusalem. It's there in Milton, Blake, GK Chesterton and Oliver Postgate. There's a thread of purpose that runs through our finest moments – the abolition of the slave trade, the winning of votes for women, the defeat of Hitler – a desire to be not just more prosperous but better, to be more equal, more sharing, more accepting of difference, to have fun. It's in all the temporary Utopias we build for ourselves – the well-run caravan site, the Notting Hill carnival, the village fete and Glastonbury.''
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...ed-her-country

What do you mean by that,
What exactly is it you disike about my view arista?