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Ramsay 21-05-2013 06:12 PM

Funny that PS4 didnt even show the console but they had a waaaay better conference than that..i know E3 is just around the corner and they are just saving it for that but still..they focused way too much on ''THIS IS THE ALL IN ONE ENTERTAINMENT SYSTEM TV INTERNET SKYPE BLAH BLAH'' than the games

Ramsay 21-05-2013 06:15 PM

And its obvious that that dog is only in the new call of duty to give the player an emotional response when he dies..blah

Ryan57 21-05-2013 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Karl (Post 6008032)
Funny that PS4 didnt even show the console but they had a waaaay better conference than that..i know E3 is just around the corner and they are just saving it for that but still..they focused way too much on ''THIS IS THE ALL IN ONE ENTERTAINMENT SYSTEM TV INTERNET SKYPE BLAH BLAH'' than the games

We hope they'll show tons of games at E3 but, you just never know with MS nowadays.

Seems the ram is GGDR3. Advantage to Sony there.

Ryan57 21-05-2013 06:24 PM

Always on not mandatory, thank goodness.

Brother Leon 21-05-2013 06:25 PM

What I miss then?

Ramsay 21-05-2013 06:26 PM

http://www.computerandvideogames.com...-for-xbox-one/

FUCCK THAT

Ryan57 21-05-2013 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Brother Leon (Post 6008071)
What I miss then?

MS spouting TV crap. Barely anything about games.

Not always on.
Used games require a fee after first use.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-yE_tG1eM0y...gry-child1.jpg

Ramsay 21-05-2013 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Brother Leon (Post 6008071)
What I miss then?

nothing really, they spent about 90% of the time trying to sell it as your new tv and only 10% of it about games..and there wasent even any gameplay footage

Ryan57 21-05-2013 06:32 PM

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Xbox One Is Not Always Online, But Seems To Restrict Used Games

The next Xbox won't require an Internet connection to function, but could very well block used games, unless you feel like paying Microsoft some extra cash.

Wired got a look at Xbox One before today's big reveal, and they say that games will require installation to use. “On the new Xbox, all game discs are installed to the HDD to play,” Microsoft told them.

But games will be tied to an Xbox Live account, Wired reveals—or else you'd just be able to pass games around to everyone you know. And if you want to link a game to a second account, you'll have to pay a fee:

What follows naturally from this is that each disc would have to be tied to a unique Xbox Live account, else you could take a single disc and pass it between everyone you know and copy the game over and over. Since this is clearly not going to happen, each disc must then only install for a single owner.

Microsoft did say that if a disc was used with a second account, that owner would be given the option to pay a fee and install the game from the disc, which would then mean that the new account would also own the game and could play it without the disc.

But what if a second person simply wanted to put the disc in and play the game without installing – and without paying extra? In other words, what happens to our traditional concept of a “used game”? This is a question for which Microsoft did not yet have an answer, and is surely something that game buyers (as well as renters and lenders) will want to know.
Wired also asked what we've all been wondering: will the console be online-only? The answer: it depends.

And what of the persistent rumors that Xbox One games will be “always online” – that is, that single-player games would require a constant online connection to function? As it turns out, those rumors were not unfounded, but the reality is not so draconian. Xbox One will give game developers the ability to create games that use Microsoft’s Azure cloud computing service, which means that they might be able to offload certain computing tasks to the cloud rather than process them on the Xbox One hardware itself. This would necessitate the game requiring a connection.

Are developers forced to create games that have these online features, and are thus not playable offline? They are not, Xbox exec Whitten said to Wired — but “I hope they do.” So the always-online future may come in incremental steps.
So it's up to the developer. Some games may require an Internet connection; some may not. The future of always-online remains hazy.
All but out myself. Or use it only for exclusives.

Ramsay 21-05-2013 06:37 PM

so going over to your friends house and bringing a game to play is all but over

Ryan57 21-05-2013 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Karl (Post 6008092)
so going over to your friends house and bringing a game to play is all but over

Must be. Unless there's some way you can sign into your account but then, Kinect signs you in via face recognition so I'm not sure.

Another issue is, there's no stern confirmation that Sony won't be doing the same thing.

Brother Leon 21-05-2013 06:39 PM

Exclusive Fifa content apparently? And UFC looked sick apparently?


NBA looked ****e I heard though.

Ryan57 21-05-2013 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Brother Leon (Post 6008096)
Exclusive Fifa content apparently? And UFC looked sick apparently?


NBA looked ****e I heard though.

Ultimate Team crap. Not revealed what it was though. UFC was part of the EA montage. No firm gameplay of anything.

Ramsay 21-05-2013 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryan57 (Post 6008094)

Another issue is, there's no stern confirmation that Sony won't be doing the same thing.

Yeah that's true actually..just will have to hope for the best :(

Ryan57 21-05-2013 07:01 PM

So here's more bull****. It's sounding like more than one person can't play a game on the same console without the people after the first activator paying.

OMFG!

Brother Leon 21-05-2013 07:13 PM

UFC and Madden Looks hot. Just going off Screenshots though.

billy123 21-05-2013 07:57 PM

You also have to buy the Kinect to be able to operate the console and theres no backwards compatibility with 360 games.
Those things along with destroying the pre-owned market is enough to put me off.

Also running three different operating systems at the same time sounds like asking for trouble they are trying to target too many markets at once it will be jack of all trades master of none.

How much money are they wanting for this thing?

Scarlett. 21-05-2013 08:19 PM

Standard Xbox crap, I mean from what I heard of the presentation, it was basically the crap they've been pushing at the past few E3's, Kinect, Bing, Windows blah blah blah

PS4 did their presentation way better, focusing on stuff that gamers actually care about (e.g. being able to play games as they download).

No doubt Xbox One will have the same Xbox Live system.

Ramsay 21-05-2013 09:49 PM

Seems the whole having to pay a fee after installing a game is false
https://twitter.com/XboxSupport/stat...36354913071104

Scarlett. 21-05-2013 11:07 PM

http://i.imgur.com/ME5Y8Xf.jpg

Scarlett. 21-05-2013 11:21 PM

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The Xbox One doesn't have to be online all the time, but it does have to be online. Not just once in a while—once a day, according to Microsoft vice president Phil Harrison.

In a Q&A on their press site for the new Xbox, Microsoft tackles the always-on question with a strangely-worded answer: "No, it does not have to be always connected, but Xbox One does require a connection to the Internet."

At the event in Redmond today, Kotaku boss Stephen Totilo asked Phil Harrison for clarification on this. And what Harrison told us might not please people who enjoy playing Xbox on military bases or other locations without Internet.

"There are many devices in your life that require the Internet to function," he said. "Xbox One is no different in that it requires, at some point in the beginning and at various times through its on state, to connect to our cloud and to our Internet. That is to deliver Xbox Live functionality, that is to deliver download content to you, that is to deliver some of the innovations around TV and entertainment that we showed today. But it doesn’t require it to be online all the time."

So how often does it check your connection? "Depends on the experience," Harrison said.

"For single-player games that don’t require connectivity to Xbox Live, you should be able to play those without interruption should your Internet connection go down. Blu-ray movies and other downloaded entertainment should be accessible when your Internet connection may be interrupted. But the device is fundamentally designed to be expanded and extended by the Internet as many devices are today."

And here's the bombshell:

Kotaku: If I’m playing a single player game, do I have to be online at least once per hour or something like that? Or can I go weeks and weeks?

Harrison: I believe it’s 24 hours.

Kotaku: I’d have to connect online once every day.

Harrison: Correct.

So the system is built to work even if your Internet connection goes down, but you still have to be connected at least once a day to use it, according to Harrison. We're not sure exactly what would happen if you don't connect once per day—and that timeframe could change—but this doesn't sound good for anyone who was hoping to use Xbox One without an Internet connection.

Kotaku
So while it's not always on, its nearly always on.

Joelle. 21-05-2013 11:27 PM

Too bad it's ugly as ****. Looks like a Betamax...
The 360 S >

Scarlett. 21-05-2013 11:51 PM

The Xbox 360 S does look asthetically better, but I'd rather have a bigger uglier console if it meant that there wouldnt be any Red ring of death type of issues. The original 360 had RRoD issues due to it being so small and overheating.

Brother Leon 21-05-2013 11:55 PM

Really don't care how a console looks. I'm not making love to it :joker:.....Honestly, I don't :p

billy123 22-05-2013 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Karl (Post 6008438)
Seems the whole having to pay a fee after installing a game is false
https://twitter.com/XboxSupport/stat...36354913071104

This is damage limitation it was Microsoft that told the press about the second user fee and then after seeing the reaction to it after the conference announced on twitter thats not the case but have now told the press this utter garbled mess.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/20...ne-in-xbox-one

Once you install the game after buying it you can only play the game on machines that have permission to sign onto your xbox account i.e. you could take the game to your friends house install it on his xbox but then you would have to sign onto your xbox account on his machine to be able to play it he would have to buy it still if he wanted to play the game on his own account.

This still destroys the used games market although microsoft say they will announce in due course a way in which you could sell your games (which is expected to be an exclusive deal with a games retailer that means you can only sell it to them)

They can keep it i think i will wait until the thing gets cracked and patched in a way that allows me to use it how i see fit if i want to sell a game i have bought and played on ebay i will if they dont allow it i wont be buying it in the first place.

Ryan57 22-05-2013 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Karl (Post 6008438)
Seems the whole having to pay a fee after installing a game is false
https://twitter.com/XboxSupport/stat...36354913071104

Tweets below the main one don't exactly back it up.

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Originally Posted by bobnot (Post 6008219)
You also have to buy the Kinect to be able to operate the console and theres no backwards compatibility with 360 games.
Those things along with destroying the pre-owned market is enough to put me off.

Also running three different operating systems at the same time sounds like asking for trouble they are trying to target too many markets at once it will be jack of all trades master of none.

How much money are they wanting for this thing?

Kinect is bundled with it.

And that article from Chewy is just ridiculous (ridiculous from MS, not Chewy :p). There are people that don't have the internet still.
Also, my ISP had a problem in the area last week. Having to connect at least once a day seems a bit problematic if something like last week were to occur again.

'effin MS!

billy123 22-05-2013 05:23 AM

I think i heard them mention that you could watch tv on it (if you plugged your cable box into it) but i can already watch tv and a sports deal with the nfl so you can bring up stats and clips lol nfl sucks and they hinted at a cod game with a free dog.



I never buy a console within a year of its release anyway and it really didnt tell us much but it was probably the most underwhelming reveal i have ever seen i didnt see a lot to like but there seemed a lot to put me off so time will tell but i really dont think ms wil be happy with how this is shaping up either.

Ryan57 22-05-2013 08:36 AM

It was totally ridiculous how they showed more non-game related than they did games. Makes it seem like an all new set top box that has an added feature of playing games.

Hopefully it was a case of getting this crap out the way and talk games at E3. Although, knowing MS, I'm not getting my hopes up. :idc:

arista 22-05-2013 10:55 AM

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology...nveils-console

Scarlett. 22-05-2013 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Ryan57 (Post 6009101)
It was totally ridiculous how they showed more non-game related than they did games. Makes it seem like an all new set top box that has an added feature of playing games.

Hopefully it was a case of getting this crap out the way and talk games at E3. Although, knowing MS, I'm not getting my hopes up. :idc:

It's been the same at Microsoft for the past few years, for the past three years at Xbox's E3 it's basically been "So this is what were bringing to the dashboard this year" and "Kinect games!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Ryan57 22-05-2013 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Chewy (Post 6009289)
It's been the same at Microsoft for the past few years, for the past three years at Xbox's E3 it's basically been "So this is what were bringing to the dashboard this year" and "Kinect games!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Indeed. Ever since 'effin Kinect. But I hoped they'd get back to games next gen. So far, that doesn't seem like it'll happen. They have to bring it at E3 games wise.

Have a feeling it could be pricey with the addition of Kinect. That 'effin thing!

lostalex 22-05-2013 11:55 AM

It really is an ugly thing. It looks like an 80's style VCR.

It makes me want to buy a Wii U

Ryan57 22-05-2013 12:02 PM

I actually like the look of it, xD. And the controller.

Scarlett. 22-05-2013 12:05 PM

Do people really buy consoles based on how they look? lol

Ryan57 22-05-2013 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Chewy (Post 6009382)
Do people really buy consoles based on how they look? lol

Peter Molyneux said last night, 'I sometimes buy things purely on the way they look'. :p

But no, I don't really care what it looks like personally. It's just better when something does look nice.

Drew. 22-05-2013 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Chewy (Post 6009382)
Do people really buy consoles based on how they look? lol

i think size matters but couldnt really care how it looks, mines behind my tv anyway and it cant be seen

lostalex 22-05-2013 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Chewy (Post 6009382)
Do people really buy consoles based on how they look? lol

Well if a company can't even bother to spend money on design, then you can assume they also didn't spend much on development. Quality isn't JUST about aesthetics, but design and aesthetics does say something about the quality of a product. High quality products do usually bother to put money into design.

In this case, it does seem that xbox is just rushing to beat PS4 to the market place, and has obviously sacrificed a lot, just to get to the market first.

Ryan57 22-05-2013 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 6009393)
Well if a company can't even bother to spend money on design, then you can assume they also didn't spend much on development. Quality isn't JUST about aesthetics, but design and aesthetics does say something about the quality of a product. High quality products do usually bother to put money into design.

In this case, it does seem that xbox is just rushing to beat PS4 to the market place, and has obviously sacrificed a lot, just to get to the market first.

Well design is down to opinion. So I wouldn't say that means they maybe didn't spend much on development. The specs are scarce at the moment, unfortunately.

Black Dagger 22-05-2013 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Drew. (Post 6009391)
i think size matters but couldnt really care how it looks, mines behind my tv anyway and it cant be seen

ooh errr hehehehe

Drew. 22-05-2013 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Dagger (Post 6009412)
ooh errr hehehehe

i put a £10 bet on that you'd be the first one to reply to that :laugh:


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