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lime 12-07-2013 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 6160093)
Good for Hazel. Gina is greedy and selfish and everyone's got to tiptoe around her? I'm surprised she didn't accuse Hazel of being racist. That's what she did last time for attention...

Why are you surprised she didn't accuse Hazel of being racist?
The argument was about wine ,not skin colour.

Josy 12-07-2013 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 6160095)
I'm curious how people can continue to justify their outrageously selfish, greedy behaviour. But, there you go...

Its shows on the articles about the task that in this case the safe house trio actually spent the least amount from the shopping budget though so people calling Gina and Dexter selfish because of the treats they chose in this task are actually wrong, if anyone was selfish it was the rest of the housemates.

Cherie 12-07-2013 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 6160095)
I'm curious how people can continue to justify their outrageously selfish, greedy behaviour. But, there you go...

The main house and the safe house both accepted treats, so why is one being castigated and not the other? There you go.

Livia 12-07-2013 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 6160103)
The main house and the safe house both accepted treats, so why is one being castigated and not the other? There you go.

The main house isn't necking the secret house's champagne though, are they. Not everything is for Gina. Someone should tell her... There you go.

Livia 12-07-2013 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Josy (Post 6160102)
Its shows on the articles about the task that in this case the safe house trio actually spent the least amount from the shopping budget though so people calling Gina and Dexter selfish because of the treats they chose in this task are actually wrong, if anyone was selfish it was the rest of the housemates.

I'm pretty sure that the cost of the stuff on offer wasn't a factor. If Dexter's wine tasting had been £100 I'm sure he would have still taken it.

I'm not calling them selfish because of the treats they chose. I'm calling them selfish for drinking their own champagne and not sharing it, then taking the wine that the main house got, and drinking that too.

I know Gina and Dexter have this strainge air of entitlement... but it doesn't mean they actually are entitled to everything.

Cherie 12-07-2013 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 6160110)
The main house isn't necking the secret house's champagne though, are they. Not everything is for Gina. Someone should tell her... There you go.

But the others are not allowed in the safe house, or allowed to have anything from the safe house, whereas the safe house inmates can access all parts of the main house, so I don't see the big problem it, it was a glass of wine.

Josy 12-07-2013 02:18 PM

Champagne for the treasury – £25

The other housemates chose to

Eat pizza – cost £30

Have a night of pool access, music and alcohol – cost £75

I'm pretty sure I would have been helping myself to that alcohol too at the amount that was being deducted from the house budget and I think the treasury only got 1 bottle of champagne too.

Livia 12-07-2013 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Josy (Post 6160117)
Champagne for the treasury – £25

The other housemates chose to

Eat pizza – cost £30

Have a night of pool access, music and alcohol – cost £75

I'm pretty sure I would have been helping myself to that alcohol too at the amount that was being deducted from the house budget and I think the treasury only got 1 bottle of champagne too.

And wine tasting, and a makeover. Add the cost of the secret house stuff and divide it by three. Then add the cost of the stuff to the main house and divide it by however many there are in there...

I stand by my "greedy and selfish" accusations.

Hate arguing with you though, Jose LOL...

kefln 12-07-2013 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 6160113)
I'm pretty sure that the cost of the stuff on offer wasn't a factor. If Dexter's wine tasting had been £100 I'm sure he would have still taken it.

I'm not calling them selfish because of the treats they chose. I'm calling them selfish for drinking their own champagne and not sharing it, then taking the wine that the main house got, and drinking that too.

I know Gina and Dexter have this strainge air of entitlement... but it doesn't mean they actually are entitled to everything.

So you are blaming Dex for something he didnt do...ie spending 100 on wine tasting.
And you are blaming the safe house for not sharing, even though they arent allowed...

Solid argument there.

Josy 12-07-2013 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 6160121)
And wine tasting, and a makeover. Add the cost of the secret house stuff and divide it by three. Then add the cost of the stuff to the main house and divide it by however many there are in there...

I stand by my "greedy and selfish" accusations.

Hate arguing with you though, Jose LOL...

Ah no arguing just sharing our opinions :love:

Cherie 12-07-2013 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Josy (Post 6160117)
Champagne for the treasury – £25

The other housemates chose to

Eat pizza – cost £30

Have a night of pool access, music and alcohol – cost £75

I'm pretty sure I would have been helping myself to that alcohol too at the amount that was being deducted from the house budget and I think the treasury only got 1 bottle of champagne too.

That is a point, they must have had quite a bit of alcohol delivered for that amount. They will all suffer in the long run as their shopping budget is depleted, except for those in the safe house....(if they stay there). Personally I think they should have declined the treats, but they are not that kind of crowd.

Vicky. 12-07-2013 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 6160132)
That is a point, they must have had quite a bit of alcohol delivered for that amount. They will all suffer in the long run as their shopping budget is depleted, except for those in the safe house....(if they stay there). Personally I think they should have declined the treats, but they are not that kind of crowd.

I dont think they will be in there after tonight

Gina seems to have it in her head that shes there til she leaves..I really doubt it. Wishful thinking more like :laugh:

Livia 12-07-2013 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by kefln (Post 6160129)
So you are blaming Dex for something he didnt do...ie spending 100 on wine tasting.
And you are blaming the safe house for not sharing, even though they arent allowed...

Solid argument there.

What I actually said was that "if Dexter's wine tasting had been £100 I'm sure he would have still taken it".

I don't recall hearing them being told they couldn't share the champagne. But even so, they felt entitled to help themselves to the main house's booze. Because they're greedy, selfish and have a sense of entitlement.

So yes, quite a solid argument, I feel. Thanks.

kefln 12-07-2013 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 6160121)
And wine tasting, and a makeover. Add the cost of the secret house stuff and divide it by three. Then add the cost of the stuff to the main house and divide it by however many there are in there...

I stand by my "greedy and selfish" accusations.

Hate arguing with you though, Jose LOL...

It could be argued that after a few weeks of being nominated by everyone in the house, dex and gina might not have the greatest team spirit. :hugesmile:

Vanessa 12-07-2013 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by kefln (Post 6160139)
It could be argued that after a few weeks of being nominated by everyone in the house, dex and gina might not have the greatest team spirit. :hugesmile:

Good point and i don't blame them at all. :thumbs:

Cherie 12-07-2013 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by kefln (Post 6160139)
It could be argued that after a few weeks of being nominated by everyone in the house, dex and gina might not have the greatest team spirit. :hugesmile:

I agree with that, plus they know without a shadow of a doubt they will be up again next week so why even bother trying to please these people.

Indy 12-07-2013 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 6160149)
I agree with that, plus they know without a shadow of a doubt they will be up again next week so why even bother trying to please these people.

And, nobody bothered to tell them they had "all agreed (actually, about 4 of them did) that nobody from the SH could have any alcohol until after they poured. Perhaps if someone had actually told them prior to Jackie losing her ****, it never would've happened. Apparently not being psychic must now be added to the list of why everything is Dexter and Gina's fault. And still ignoring that Charlie, who DID have champagne, and still had her champagne flute, was not yelled at, ONLY D&G were told they couldn't have any.

Livia 12-07-2013 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by kefln (Post 6160139)
It could be argued that after a few weeks of being nominated by everyone in the house, dex and gina might not have the greatest team spirit. :hugesmile:

And after being spied on while the two of them lived in luxury, the rest of the house may be a little resentful. I mean, they didn't exactly have the greatest team spirit before, did they!?

kefln 12-07-2013 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 6160138)
What I actually said was that "if Dexter's wine tasting had been £100 I'm sure he would have still taken it".

I don't recall hearing them being told they couldn't share the champagne. But even so, they felt entitled to help themselves to the main house's booze. Because they're greedy, selfish and have a sense of entitlement.

So yes, quite a solid argument, I feel. Thanks.

"Dont recall", "Im sure", "if", "they felt entitled"

All the above are personal opinion statements, which you are entitled to make, but none are fact.

The facts are that this weeks challenge is all about self control and austerity. None of the HMs have realised this. They are all eating into their weekly budget for short term gain.

Its a brilliant task because it has already shown off the short sighted, selfish, nature of the HMs, along with the ever widening gap in the house itself.

For example, the "group" were all sitting around b*tching about Dex and the champagne. Giving out about how selfish he was. But the result was a "we'll show them response". They jumped at the chance to spend more money and there was a resulting argument.

Had both sides said no, there would have been no arguments and they would have more cash. But they all have a "us and them" mentality.

Take the coment from one of the twins, the wrong ones went into the safe house. In realty the "best" ones went in. As Dex and Gina are the most isolated, there is a natural divide. This task is only compounding that divide. Leading to a far more interesting programme for the viewers.

Livia 12-07-2013 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by kefln (Post 6160199)
"Dont recall", "Im sure", "if", "they felt entitled"

All the above are personal opinion statements, which you are entitled to make, but none are fact.

The facts are that this weeks challenge is all about self control and austerity. None of the HMs have realised this. They are all eating into their weekly budget for short term gain.

Its a brilliant task because it has already shown off the short sighted, selfish, nature of the HMs, along with the ever widening gap in the house itself.

For example, the "group" were all sitting around b*tching about Dex and the champagne. Giving out about how selfish he was. But the result was a "we'll show them response". They jumped at the chance to spend more money and there was a resulting argument.

Had both sides said no, there would have been no arguments and they would have more cash. But they all have a "us and them" mentality.

Take the coment from one of the twins, the wrong ones went into the safe house. In realty the "best" ones went in. As Dex and Gina are the most isolated, there is a natural divide. This task is only compounding that divide. Leading to a far more interesting programme for the viewers.

Yeah, this is a Big Brother discussion. It's all about personal opinions and an individual's interpretation of the facts. Mine differ wildly from yours to the extent I could believe you're watching quite a different programme.

We're going to have to agree to differ on this one.

kefln 12-07-2013 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 6160181)
And after being spied on while the two of them lived in luxury, the rest of the house may be a little resentful. I mean, they didn't exactly have the greatest team spirit before, did they!?

I seem to remember Gina swallowing fish guts for the "team".

And dex, despite being generally hated and publicly flogged in the nomination process, has taken it all rather well. You rarely hear him complain. Even when a very angry daley came charging at him, he calmly dealt with the situation.

Neither are angels. They both suffer from foot n' mouth desease. But both have shown a real survival instinct in a house that has been out to get them almost from day one.

kefln 12-07-2013 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 6160207)
Yeah, this is a Big Brother discussion. It's all about personal opinions and an individual's interpretation of the facts. Mine differ wildly from yours to the extent I could believe you're watching quite a different programme.

We're going to have to agree to differ on this one.

I completely agree :hugesmile:

This is all part of the fun of BB

Jords 12-07-2013 03:00 PM

Id have sat at the table if I was Gina and continue drinking my wine.

MrWong 12-07-2013 03:41 PM

At least Gina had the decency to haggle the price down and not just accept BB's first offer.

An example to us all in these harsh times of austerity.

Razor 12-07-2013 03:41 PM

The longer Hazel is in the house the worst she makes herself look. Asking Gina to pour the drink down the sink just highlights that Hazel isnt a nice person.

Cherie 12-07-2013 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by MrWong (Post 6160344)
At least Gina had the decency to haggle the price down and not just accept BB's first offer.

An example to us all in these harsh times of austerity.





So true.

Scream 12-07-2013 03:57 PM

I love Gina but Gina knew what she was doing so Hazel was right to be honest. If Gina was truly sorry she would of poured it away...

chuff me dizzy 12-07-2013 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by kefln (Post 6160218)
I seem to remember Gina swallowing fish guts for the "team".

And dex, despite being generally hated and publicly flogged in the nomination process, has taken it all rather well. You rarely hear him complain. Even when a very angry daley came charging at him, he calmly dealt with the situation.

Neither are angels. They both suffer from foot n' mouth desease. But both have shown a real survival instinct in a house that has been out to get them almost from day one.

Sorry to disagree ,she didnt SWALLOW them she spat them out

kefln 12-07-2013 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 6160400)
Sorry to disagree ,she didnt SWALLOW them she spat them out

She did enough to pass the task, which is enough for the team effort.

She also strapped herself to the knife throwers wheel, again for the task, and for the team.

kefln 12-07-2013 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Razor (Post 6160347)
The longer Hazel is in the house the worst she makes herself look. Asking Gina to pour the drink down the sink just highlights that Hazel isnt a nice person.

The "fight" started because of jackie. Hazel only chimed in, so I wouldnt completely agree. That and Gina was clearly trying to hide what she was doing. 50/50 in my opinion.

chuff me dizzy 12-07-2013 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by kefln (Post 6160460)
The "fight" started because of jackie. Hazel only chimed in, so I wouldnt completely agree. That and Gina was clearly trying to hide what she was doing. 50/50 in my opinion.

WRONG the fight started because of Gina/Dexter pinching stuff that they had no right to touch

kefln 12-07-2013 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 6160477)
WRONG the fight started because of Gina/Dexter pinching stuff that they had no right to touch

Bought out of the house budget... :hugesmile:

And the argument started after jackie went off on one, because Dex and Gina drank some wine, after the group saw them drinking champagne, in the safe house, that the others wanted to be in, that the two were enjoying for the best part of a week...swings and round abouts...

Lex 12-07-2013 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 6160477)
WRONG the fight started because of Gina/Dexter pinching stuff that they had no right to touch

WRONG the wine came out of next weeks budget...which belongs to all of the housemates including Gina/Dexter! :elephant:

Johnnyuk123 12-07-2013 05:03 PM

The sink in question is Wolfy.

Niamh. 12-07-2013 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Lex (Post 6160509)
WRONG the wine came out of next weeks budget...which belongs to all of the housemates including Gina/Dexter! :elephant:

Not really, the deal was offered to the HMs in the main house, just like the champagne was only offered to the safe house people and the wine tasing just to Dexter etc etc all the money was coming of the budget but the deals were only for specific people/groups of people

boomoo 12-07-2013 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 6159374)
But the problem was apparently that the others had had champagne already so it was unfair for them to have the main houses drink too. A point that I totally agree with. However its a bit wrong to allow one of the others (who had drank champagne) to share their drink, while screaming at the others that they couldn't.

The problem was that the group don't like Gina and Dexter. Nothing else.

I agree and it would be deadly without Gina and Dexter. No wonder BB stepped in to stop the housemates getting rid of the best two housemates. Who wants to watch mother and daughter rows? Jackie is shaping up to be one of the worst housemates ever.
We have had too many false romances down the years just so that housemates get photoshoots. They are just boring now.


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