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Verbal 04-12-2013 11:10 AM

*infiltrated*

Glenn. 04-12-2013 11:11 AM

If it was going ahead on TiBB you would opt out and that's that. If you didn't strive for it to be cancelled on TiBB we could of had it on here and you wouldn't of been mentioned at all.

Jesus. 04-12-2013 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Lola-Belle Humbug (Post 6522378)
Fair enough post, but that's not how it would be.

1 it's already touted as no holds barred? How can any Mod who takes part condone that when it's a forum break. Saying it's offsite isn't a get out because it's a Tibb event!

2 trust people not to say bad stuff!! You're having a giraffe surely.

1) I think you have to trust people to have a no holds barred event between the people participating, and if everyone who doesn't opt out is happy to go along with that, then what business is it of mine?

2) Yeah, why not? It's already been banned from TIBB, so I don't think people will have any reason to act like idiots, because they'll want it back here. I think it's right to give them the benefit of the doubt. If anything is said that's out of order then everyone will know about it anyway, so people will still be punished.

Kyle 04-12-2013 11:17 AM

Is it happening then? I want them to hurry up before all these weird Christmas threads start coming on and stealing all the awards.....

Kizzy 04-12-2013 11:19 AM

Kate, please don't talk about it on the thread anymore. It's just going to cause more negative drama which will no doubt reflect badly on us. I'll message admin.

Glenn. 04-12-2013 11:22 AM

It's best to leave it now.

Lily has her numbers. Yes we want a Razzies. It's going to happen regardless of anyone's protests.

Kate! 04-12-2013 11:24 AM

Jesus - there won't be an Opt out situation. That's my point. And yes I agree with you that if it causes crap it may well result in punishments which is why I said on their own heads be it. Sigh.

Kizzy - I know. It's like talking to a brick wall. For me, James has stated it's not to take place. That means anywhere surely!

Kate! 04-12-2013 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Good King Glennceslas (Post 6522391)
It's best to leave it now.

Lily has her numbers. Yes we want a Razzies. It's going to happen regardless of anyone's protests.

Really? Well that's just spiffing. Shame the site owner is opposed. That's disrespectful. Two fingers to the admin. Nice.

Livia 04-12-2013 11:28 AM

It seems to me that people are objecting because of what they think may happen. Most people I'm sure are going to treat it light-heartedly. Sadly if it's hounded off the forum, then it will be bad for TiBB... but if a few people objecting and insisting it's cancelled the catalyst for it actually being cancelled, then the majority will go elsewhere.

Smithy 04-12-2013 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Lola-Belle Humbug (Post 6522397)
Really? Well that's just spiffing. Shame the site owner is opposed. That's disrespectful. Two fingers to the admin. Nice.

The site owner doesn't give a ****

James is just an admin

Kate! 04-12-2013 11:31 AM

:rolleyes:

Glenn. 04-12-2013 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Lola-Belle Humbug (Post 6522397)
Really? Well that's just spiffing. Shame the site owner is opposed. That's disrespectful. Two fingers to the admin. Nice.

James is admin, not the site owner. I'm sure James doesn't give a toss. If it's happening offsite then James has very little to do with it. It won't affect him in any way.

Jesus. 04-12-2013 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Lola-Belle Humbug (Post 6522394)

Jesus - there won't be an Opt out situation. That's my point.

And yes I agree with you that if it causes crap it may well result in punishments which is why I said on their own heads be it. Sigh.

Are you saying that you don't believe people will be allowed to opt out? Or people will just ignore the opt rules, and just say what they want regardless?

That's the same in any game. Ben has odds for the "first person banned in ML" for a reason, even if it is mostly tongue in cheek.

Livia 04-12-2013 11:36 AM

There won't be an opt out if it goes off site. But you can't say to people, you can't hold your game here... and we insist you don't hold it anywhere else either.

Jesus. 04-12-2013 11:38 AM

That is pretty moody then. Unfortunately, I have no authority to police the internet, and nor do I want to. Let them get on with it.

Livia 04-12-2013 11:43 AM

Well I'm saying there won't be an opt out if it's offsite... I'm assuming there won't be. Anyhoo, if it goes ahead on here, there's an opt out and it's moderated, surely that's the fairest way?

Kyle 04-12-2013 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 6522418)
Well I'm saying there won't be an opt out if it's offsite... I'm assuming there won't be. Anyhoo, if it goes ahead on here, there's an opt out and it's moderated, surely that's the fairest way?

I don't think there's a better way than that. There is no fool proof method and every thread/game has the potential to go sour anyway. I think it should go ahead off site if it can't on here.

Jesus. 04-12-2013 11:49 AM

Matt I know you're reading this thread - can you comment on the opt out list, and whether you intend for there to be one? Cheers.

Well yeah, the fairest way would and should be to have it on here, but James has already made a decision and it's public. Whatever will give him the quietest life is the path he'll choose.

Jake. 04-12-2013 11:52 AM

Why are people honestly afraid that they are going to be constantly bitched about if they aren't taking part? The whole point is to laugh at the funny nominations, laugh at who wins, generally have a good night with those who want to involve themselves, not those who don't? But anyway, yeah I'm up for this.

Matt 04-12-2013 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Lola-Belle Humbug (Post 6520330)
if people think doing it offsite with no moderation (so it'll be vicious) and an almost definite outcome of members coming back here and talking about who said what about who isn't going to cause **** then they are silly.

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Originally Posted by Lola-Belle Humbug (Post 6522365)
Remember how disgusted you were by the recent offensive blog cos doing this offsite is inviting a re run of that. The host has already stated it'll be no holds barred.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lola-Belle Humbug (Post 6522378)
trust people not to say bad stuff!! You're having a giraffe surely.


Must say I find your position on this laughable given that you started your own forum that members of TiBB signed up to - on which you had a rolling discussion of the last Razzies ceremony.

Here's one screenshot that was posted during said ceremony (of which I have a copy saved):

http://i39.tinypic.com/2h5tnw1.jpg

"little does he know the laughs we have at them, LOL, LOL"

*cough*hypocrisy*cough*

Livia 04-12-2013 11:57 AM

Oh dear...

Glenn. 04-12-2013 11:57 AM

BOOM!

Black Dagger 04-12-2013 11:59 AM

Oh.. this will be fun.

Black Dagger 04-12-2013 12:00 PM

That Patrick Stump song is a bit awful mind you.

Smithy 04-12-2013 12:02 PM

well well well

http://abload.de/img/haha83szj.gif

Livia 04-12-2013 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Snow Angel (Post 6522337)
It's ok if you're currently in favour and running with the pack, for those who for whatever reason find themselves on the periphery it can feel very different.
There have been some whopping lies told in this thread, and as there is no way to check unless James takes it upon himself to get involved again and repost last years razzies then I guess that's how it is.
It's very disrespectful to harangue James as he's made his point clear, have the razzies offsite why some are so desperate to throw shade I don't know though.

Didn't I see you on the Katie Hopkins thread, advocating her right to freedom of speech? Does that not apply to everyone?

Kate! 04-12-2013 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Good King Glennceslas (Post 6522402)
James is admin, not the site owner. I'm sure James doesn't give a toss. If it's happening offsite then James has very little to do with it. It won't affect him in any way.

James obviously does give a toss and does look at offsite matters if extreme enough. The recent perma ban ring a bell?

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Originally Posted by The Baby Jesus (Post 6522407)
Are you saying that you don't believe people will be allowed to opt out? Or people will just ignore the opt rules, and just say what they want regardless?

Yes that is what I'm saying. Well done.

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Baby Jesus (Post 6522426)
Matt I know you're reading this thread - can you comment on the opt out list, and whether you intend for there to be one? Cheers.

Well yeah, the fairest way would and should be to have it on here, but James has already made a decision and it's public. Whatever will give him the quietest life is the path he'll choose.

Nope, whatever is fairest and decent is the path he has chosen. Despite the majority of the forum objecting.

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 6522445)
Didn't I see you on the Katie Hopkins thread, advocating her right to freedom of speech? Does that not apply to everyone?

I have the right to say my opinion too but because I'm in a minority it's easy to shout me down. And there's a difference between freedom of speech and off the scale insults and abuse.

Jordan. 04-12-2013 12:17 PM

omg why do people still have screenshots of RTV, so embarrassing [img]http://www.breatheheavy.com/exhale/public/style_emoticons/default/***********[/img]


Kazanne didn't lie tho

Kate! 04-12-2013 12:23 PM

:D

Jake. 04-12-2013 12:25 PM

Ah that makes it okay then

Apple202 04-12-2013 12:26 PM

oh dear who keeps screenshots like that D:

Glenn. 04-12-2013 12:26 PM

Dezzy is one of the best members on here. Just because he doesn't take **** he's accused of being biased.

Ammi 04-12-2013 12:26 PM

..I think it would be silly and inaccurate to say that there was nothing negative at all about the Razzies but there is also the same negatives in ML and just about every other awards/game on the forum from what I observe so they really don't cause any more issues than anything else does and they do create a balance which is what forums or any group needs...the only thing you can try to do is compromise, to meet what people want, which is what Lily is trying to do but beyond that a 'control' can only be achieved through allowing them on TiBB as they have always been....

Kizzy 04-12-2013 12:26 PM

Can the baiting stop now please?
The comment matt referred to was a year ago... have things not moved on from then?
Apparently not.
Not sure what your point is livia, not being able to tell other forum members how much you dislike them for one night only is some kind of an infringement?
Personally I don't have a problem with it offsite, my guess is it will rumble on for millenium if it doesn't..

Black Dagger 04-12-2013 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by G.U.Yule (Post 6522441)

That gif :laugh:

Matt 04-12-2013 12:28 PM

Replying to everyone but me *Kate*? Looks like I've touched a nerve...

At the end of the day if the Razzies do go ahead off forum, all we're doing is talking about members off forum - and if anyone gets banned as a result then you, Kazanne, and anyone else from TiBB that signed up to 'RTV' should be banned too.


Quote:

Originally Posted by The Baby Jesus (Post 6522426)
Matt I know you're reading this thread - can you comment on the opt out list, and whether you intend for there to be one? Cheers.

As previously stated, if the Razzies go ahead on TiBB then I'm happy for there to be an opt-out list. If not then there won't be.

Brother Leon 04-12-2013 12:30 PM

Lol. That Screenshot. One can't deal with this hypocrisy.

Black Dagger 04-12-2013 12:32 PM

And I thought I was a queen, looks like Leon has been hanging around me too much :pipe:

Marcus. 04-12-2013 12:34 PM

aye i be up for it

Glenn. 04-12-2013 12:34 PM

I like the sound of an old school Razzies. And Scott can post too :love:


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