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jet 11-01-2014 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 6607607)
No not getting it, seems calm and unruffled to me and doesn't suffer fools

Other people here have seen what I have too, so it's not just me that has the gift. :hugesmile:

Cherie 11-01-2014 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by jet (Post 6607630)
Other people here have seen what I have too, so it's not just me that has the gift. :hugesmile:

And others have seen what I have you are not the only one with the gift :fist:

Ammi 11-01-2014 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 6607639)
And others have seen what I have you are not the only one with the gift :fist:

..haha, the best gift of all is that smiley gift..:fist:..

jet 11-01-2014 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 6607655)
..haha, the best gift of all is that smiley gift..:fist:..

It's the winner! :joker:

Ammi 11-01-2014 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by jet (Post 6607662)
It's a good one. :joker:

..I think it's the most multi purpose smiley on the forum and it's a really 'cute annoyed/angry..' as well...



..:fist:...

Livia 11-01-2014 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by jet (Post 6607178)
You said she was neurotic, paranoid and a 'F'ing' psycho. So are you saying she acted that way right in front of you (if so, why not expand on that) or are you basing this on hearsay from a friend who might just not like her. That's not evidence.
Jim Davidson is a self - confessed wife beater. ITV had to apologize for his inappropriate comments towards a gay person. These things are facts.

Oh enough with the 'evidence' and the 'hearsay'. You said earlier we're on a BB forum... This isn't a court of law and you're not cross-questioning me.

We don't agree. Give it a rest whydontcha.

Macie Lightfoot 11-01-2014 06:50 PM

The thing with Jim Davidson is that he's objectively the most objectionable casting choice ever? Like, someone with as shady of a history as his, sorry but I have no real interest seeing that, let alone seeing him become a victim of people (rightfully) judging him based on his past.

Livia 11-01-2014 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by troynuncdicit (Post 6607918)
The thing with Jim Davidson is that he's objectively the most objectionable casting choice ever? Like, someone with as shady of a history as his, sorry but I have no real interest seeing that, let alone seeing him become a victim of people (rightfully) judging him based on his past.

No redemption for anyone then? How sad.

Macie Lightfoot 11-01-2014 07:00 PM

I think there are much more legitimate ways to seek redemption than appear on a reality programme for three weeks and tone down your racism/homophobia/misogyny/whathaveyou

Livia 11-01-2014 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by troynuncdicit (Post 6607969)
I think there are much more legitimate ways to seek redemption than appear on a reality programme for three weeks and tone down your racism/homophobia/misogyny/whathaveyou

What do you want him to do, set up a mission? He's not been in the public eye for ages. How do we know he's "toning down" all that stuff, and that he hasn't, like he claims, turned his life around? Anyhoo, time will tell.

jet 11-01-2014 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 6607801)
Oh enough with the 'evidence' and the 'hearsay'. You said earlier we're on a BB forum... This isn't a court of law and you're not cross-questioning me.

We don't agree. Give it a rest whydontcha.

Why don't you give it a rest. You quote me and post something that calls for a response, then you are rude when I respond. Charming.

Livia 11-01-2014 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by jet (Post 6608010)
Why don't you give it a rest. You quote me and post something that calls for a response, then you are rude when I respond. Charming.

My reply to you at the top of the page didn't require any response. I was merely answering your post which supposed that I was making wild claims about Liz Jones. I pointed out that I had met her, more than once, that I know someone she knows (and as a matter of interest yes, she was quite neurotic and strange on a couple of occasions I was in her company). But that wasn't good enough. You wanted evidence and claimed hearsay like we're in court. It's getting silly now. We don't have to agree, and we clearly don't.

jet 11-01-2014 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 6608061)
My reply to you at the top of the page didn't require any response. I was merely answering your post which supposed that I was making wild claims about Liz Jones. I pointed out that I had met her, more than once, that I know someone she knows (and as a matter of interest yes, she was quite neurotic and strange on a couple of occasions I was in her company). But that wasn't good enough. You wanted evidence and claimed hearsay like we're in court. It's getting silly now. We don't have to agree, and we clearly don't.

We certainly don't, so we'll agree to disagree. :thumbs:

Videostar 11-01-2014 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jet (Post 6606433)
It's not his comedy that bothers me in particular...it's his fists, his homophobia etc etc etc...

Has he said anything homophobic in the house? if not then it's unimportant whats gone on before.

Macie Lightfoot 11-01-2014 08:25 PM

I mean I wouldn't say it's all that irrelevant when he was initially scheduled to be on CBB11, which was hosted by a gay guy he previously clashed with on another show.

Kizzy 11-01-2014 08:27 PM

Jim has written at least 2 autobiographies where he admits his abuse and alcoholism, he's still drinking therefore he's still an alcoholic as far as I see it.
Due to his documented clashes with the police and others, I find it hard to believe he has mellowed. If he manages to last without lashing out I'll be amazed.

Cherie 11-01-2014 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 6607655)
..haha, the best gift of all is that smiley gift..:fist:..

I love it, it's my favorite smilie ever

[QUOTE=Kizzy;6608333]Jim has written at least 2 autobiographies where he admits his abuse and alcoholism, he's still drinking therefore he's still an alcoholic as far as I see it.
Due to his documented clashes with the police and others, I find it hard to believe he has mellowed. If he manages to last without lashing out I'll be amazed.[/QUOT


:fist: don't put the mockers on him

Patricia4 11-01-2014 08:42 PM

Jim is doing great in the house so why cant he win.

chuff me dizzy 11-01-2014 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jet (Post 6607554)
I'm not basing it just on the past. I don't believe he's changed that much watching him in the house. He's bursting at the seams trying to hold in his anger and keep his nastiness under wraps. But it keeps spilling out in little trickles. It's not my fault I'm very perceptive and pick on on little signs and nuances like that. :hugesmile:

But whilstever he IS holding it under wraps what is there to complain about? and its a tad arrogant to know what people are thinking dont you think ?

joeysteele 11-01-2014 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by jet (Post 6607554)
I'm not basing it just on the past. I don't believe he's changed that much watching him in the house. He's bursting at the seams trying to hold in his anger and keep his nastiness under wraps. But it keeps spilling out in little trickles. It's not my fault I'm very perceptive and pick on on little signs and nuances like that. :hugesmile:

Hi jet, I accept you hold your strong views as to Jim and I would never say you are wrong to have those views.
You have your opinion of him and that is your right.

I myself don't care at all for a lot of what he has done and said in the past and indeed I am surprised that I have come to even like him as a housemate.
I have though because he is doing exactly what you say,controlling himself in the main, which is something he 'never' could have done in the past.

For me however, how he is contolling his temper,I haven't a clue while he is around the vicious and miserable and awful Linda Nolan,who is also trying to push all buttons to make him look really bad herself.
Even I would have likely flared up at her by now bigtime already.

jet 11-01-2014 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 6608422)
Hi jet, I accept you hold your strong views as to Jim and I would never say you are wrong to have those views.
You have your opinion of him and that is your right.

I myself don't care at all for a lot of what he has done and said in the past and indeed I am surprised that I have come to even like him as a housemate.
I have though because he is doing exactly what you say,controlling himself in the main, which is something he 'never' could have done in the past.

For me however, how he is contolling his temper,I haven't a clue while he is around the vicious and miserable and awful Linda Nolan,who is also trying to push all buttons to make him look really bad herself.
Even I would have likely flared up at her by now bigtime already.


Thanks Joey, I always respect and value your opinions.
For me, they are pushing each others buttons. Jim isn't blameless here. I'd love to know what is behind him saying to her last night for the 3rd time in a week "Like another vat of wine dear?" before turning his back on her. Something to do with their past, I suppose?
Their spats are quite intriguing and a lot more interesting than the cringe worthy showmance so its all good. :thumbs: :hugesmile:

Kizzy 11-01-2014 09:14 PM

Yep I noticed that, he snipes then when she bites it will be woah!!!! overemotional female alert... pfft.

Z 11-01-2014 10:06 PM

Tonight was iiiinteresting, Jim reveals he hasn't changed at all and is playing a game... I don't know if I'm put him off in the house because I didn't like him before, or if I still like him because he's playing a blinder so far

Cherie 11-01-2014 10:17 PM

I think he meant he is biting his tongue rather than playing a game. He went to luisa and gave her good advice, where was everyone else?

Z 11-01-2014 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 6609051)
I think he meant he is biting his tongue rather than playing a game. He went to luisa and gave her good advice, where was everyone else?

Lionel gave her a hug, Linda gave her a hug, Dappy made up with her and Lionel said he was glad they'd made up. Plenty of people cared about Luisa's hysterics. In this case, I would say Jim biting his tongue is him playing a game. He knows he'll be reviled if he lets anything slip.

Patricia4 11-01-2014 10:26 PM

Nothing wrong with Jim its people like Linda that is turning people against him and some are that thick they are talking it all in like Sam.

Cherie 11-01-2014 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Zee (Post 6609072)
Lionel gave her a hug, Linda gave her a hug, Dappy made up with her and Lionel said he was glad they'd made up. Plenty of people cared about Luisa's hysterics. In this case, I would say Jim biting his tongue is him playing a game. He knows he'll be reviled if he lets anything slip.

What I meant was they didn't offer any advice and try and reconcile the situation and it was afterwards that she and dappy made up

Z 11-01-2014 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 6609090)
What I meant was they didn't offer any advice and try and reconcile the situation and it was afterwards that she and dappy made up

Ah I see, you're right! I think Jim was foolish to admit he was playing a game.

Videostar 11-01-2014 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Zee (Post 6609072)
Lionel gave her a hug, Linda gave her a hug, Dappy made up with her and Lionel said he was glad they'd made up. Plenty of people cared about Luisa's hysterics. In this case, I would say Jim biting his tongue is him playing a game. He knows he'll be reviled if he lets anything slip.

Why is biting his tongue thought of as game playing? maybe Luisa should think before she speaks, perhaps. ;)

Kazanne 11-01-2014 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 6609051)
I think he meant he is biting his tongue rather than playing a game. He went to luisa and gave her good advice, where was everyone else?

That's how I interpreted it too Cherie

Cherie 11-01-2014 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Zee (Post 6609113)
Ah I see, you're right! I think Jim was foolish to admit he was playing a game.

Yes agreed that was stupid!

Z 11-01-2014 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Videostar (Post 6609122)
Why is biting his tongue thought of as game playing? maybe Luisa should think before she speaks, perhaps. ;)

He admitted to Luisa he is still the chauvinistic woman hater he's always been, but he's not being himself in the house. That is a strategy for survival in the game, he's playing a character to avoid being hated.

Videostar 11-01-2014 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Zee (Post 6609135)
He admitted to Luisa he is still the chauvinistic woman hater he's always been, but he's not being himself in the house. That is a strategy for survival in the game, he's playing a character to avoid being hated.

Err he didn't say he was a woman hater. :nono:

You are putting your own spin on what he said and meant because you don't like him.

Z 11-01-2014 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Videostar (Post 6609143)
Err he didn't say he was a woman hater. :nono:

You are putting your own spin on what he said and meant because you don't like him.

He's one of my favourite house mates..........

I don't remember the exact words, bloody hell

Kizzy 11-01-2014 11:53 PM

His exact words were ' I'm a silly bigot and I'm fake and a tool'.... I think ;)

Z 11-01-2014 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 6609389)
His exact words were ' I'm a silly bigot and I'm fake and a tool'.... I think ;)

No Kizzy you're putting your own spin on his words because you don't like him !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The guy explicitly admitted he is not being himself in the house because he's still the same person he's always been, he hasn't changed at all. I wasn't sure if he had reformed or not but now we have confirmation that he is the same. Unsure if I admire him for his game playing or hate him because he's despicable.

joeysteele 11-01-2014 11:57 PM

Well for me and as I said above, I am surprised how much I like him in the BB house.
The minute he does,( if he does), explode at Linda then I will really like him even more after that.

Kazanne 12-01-2014 12:02 AM

I like him too,hew made me laugh so much tonight when he was doing that accent to Dappy,I think he jokes a lot and it is taken the wrong way.

joeysteele 12-01-2014 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 6609405)
I like him too,hew made me laugh so much tonight when he was doing that accent to Dappy,I think he jokes a lot and it is taken the wrong way.

It was funny Kazanne, he does have good humour to be fair.

jet 12-01-2014 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Zee (Post 6609392)
No Kizzy you're putting your own spin on his words because you don't like him !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The guy explicitly admitted he is not being himself in the house because he's still the same person he's always been, he hasn't changed at all. I wasn't sure if he had reformed or not but now we have confirmation that he is the same. Unsure if I admire him for his game playing or hate him because he's despicable.

You have summed it up very well. It came as no surprise to me as I've been saying throughout this whole thread that he hasn't changed and was obviously keeping a tight lid on himself. He said tonight also that he is still a male chauvinist pig - I dislike that type no matter how 'funny' they are. I think he's despicable, but at least he admitted he wasn't being himself which is a plus point.


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