and the lesson Kate has learned today is is.......

never start a thread even remotely connected with religion :laugh:

Its my supposition and this is a forum but I dont intend to write a book, build a chapel/synagog and expect people to worship me regarding it. I also dont expect to open an LT viewpoint school nor enter politics (they did not like the school idea at the parents night so its a deffo no).

Oh and I will not be telling you that unless you hold my views you will burn in hell for eternity. :devil:

There is no 'evidence' to say there is not something greater either:hugesmile:

nothing, just that people sought answers for questions they could not answer so they made them up in a simplistic framework that also helped to control populations and keep them from wholesale murder.

yes like Leprechauns

Well you seem to completely have ignored my post on the other page which explains why I find it very hard to believe someone could have made it all up, especially just to control people as well

not even a remotely similar concept, and a really cliche and unoriginal thing to say

LeatherTrumpet snatching all these god botherers

I am going to give up drinking tea, and it's going to be torture.

I'll probably last an hour and forget all about it tbh

"I believe in the Qur'an because it's just so amazingly and intricately written, addresses so much about the nature of life, explains science including things which were not discovered at the time. When I read it I really can't comprehend there being no truth to it, it's just too elaborate to be written by man. The Bible and Torah(?) are vastly similar as all it really is is a different interpretation of the same belief"

"explains science including things which were not discovered at the time."

perhaps you could elaborate here?

I won't be giving up anything as I am an atheist..

Is giving something up for Lent a catholic practice? Or do Protestants do it too?

Sorry,but you are being rather pig headed in trying to make people feel inferior for believing in a God,you don't have the answers,none of us do,I don't see fresh air but I know it's there,not everything we cant see should be dismissed,you believe in nothing,fine,but let people who believe ,do so without the contstant put downs.

Mocking someone else's beliefs is ignorant, arrogant, inconsiderate and just downright rude.

No its just an example of using the "you cant prove he does not exist argument"

as in you cant prove an infinite amount of things dont exist and one does not need to.

And there is concrete peer reviewed evidence for "air"

No one is mocking anyone but increasingly when you discuss religion, religionists willl bunker down and play the victim card.

well, it discussed the expansion of the universe for example. just search on google for prophecies fulfilled by the Qur'an/miracles of the Qur'an. there's a load of examples and explained better than I ever could. I'm not saying these fulfilled predictions are the only reason why I believe in it, that's just one factor

I see a few posts in this threads that basically insult anyone who practices any religion, so yes there is mocking or perhaps trolling is a better word, going on.

I would welcome an example of your own personal opinion of a debate you have not been involved in?

Every religion has a list of so called fullfilled prophecies as its part of the shtick. To date none have ever cut the mustard, unless you have a specific one that you can illustrate?

I haven't posted. That doesn't mean I haven't been following the thread.

As for the OP I wont be giving anything up for lent because I just don't want to, I do understand why people do participate in lent though and that's their choice and it's not always based on religion regardless of what some seem to think.

being religious does not grant you some sort of hushed respect, I dont demand respect for liking meteorology (even though it would be nice to get it now and then).

I'm not at all religious so certainly will not be giving anything up for lent.

amen to that

I AM religious,I hope I get an AMEN too:hugesmile:

Sweet Jesus. Another thread with a load of Atheism preaching.

This would be an example of the victim card :joker:

That or someone who clicked on another thread invaded by the same stuff....

say 3 hail marys, drop a tenner in the box and by teatime you will be absolved:dance:

If you're not doing it in the name of religion you're not really doing it for 'lent' are you?

I would if I was Christian.


Good attempt though x

Stop being so patronising,I am no victim,but do get annoyed at people who think they know it all

I think believing that one mighty god made everything and that answers all questions and all things rather than believe in the limits of scientific knowledge rather negates your ire?:conf:

well, this was meant to be a lighthearted thread, I've never given anything up for lent previously, so it's not for any major religious beliefs, just that I had decided to go on a health kick, and the timing coincided.

Really wasn't anticipating people being jumped on for whatever beliefs they hold. :conf:

and noone said it was Pancake Day

I'm not good at giving things up. I'd just end up wanting those things more. I'll try to eat more healthily and go for walks when i'm off work. :hugesmile:

I think it's a bit unfair to start calling people trolls for having a view that goes against the norm or that questions a persons belief, what's the point in discussing things on this forum if you can't speak your mind?...

You don't know what I believe other than I believe in God,I have given no details of what my beliefs entail.

Most unhelpful post of the thread so far.


You're a sinful, Godless heathen. I like that about you.

Yes Kizzy thankyou :spin: