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Kizzy 29-04-2014 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ninastar (Post 6821186)
i can write it off due to the fact that it's rough as ****... i didnt want to work there for that reason.

What a thing to say about city you've never lived or worked in. There are good and bad areas in every city in the UK.

Ninastar 29-04-2014 11:03 PM

i've been there enough and know enough people from there, lol. i think i know what i'm talking about

Kizzy 29-04-2014 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ninastar (Post 6821198)
i've been there enough and know enough people from there, lol. i think i know what i'm talking about

It sounds a rather ignorant and narrow minded view sorry to say caitlin.

Ninastar 29-04-2014 11:14 PM

it's okay, you can think it all you like. I know what I am and that is something i am not

Firewire 29-04-2014 11:45 PM

leeds is lovely caitlin

armand.kay 30-04-2014 12:44 AM

In year 5 a boy brought a knife to school and pulled it out on a girl and I was sitting right next to them. I didn't know what to do so I asked to go to the toilet :umm2:

armand.kay 30-04-2014 12:45 AM

He wasn't even excluded :umm2:

arista 30-04-2014 06:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 6821174)
What a strange thing to say... Leeds is the third largest city in England, you can't write the whole place of due to the actions of one psychotic teenager.



Yes one to be charged soon

Aduk 30-04-2014 06:59 AM

Awful :(

thesheriff443 30-04-2014 07:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ninastar (Post 6821186)
i can write it off due to the fact that it's rough as ****... i didnt want to work there for that reason.

you do know you can get stabbed in any post code!

arista 30-04-2014 08:12 AM

http://media.skynews.com/media/image...-1-329x437.jpg

She was not even meant to be there

real tragic

arista 30-04-2014 08:27 AM

In her last moments, Ann Maguire's thoughts
were only for her pupils.
The 61-year-old teacher begged
them to flee rather than witness
the horrific attack on her by
one of their fellow students.

One teenager said: 'Mrs Maguire was
screaming at the kids in the class telling
them to get out because she didn't
want them to see what was happening.'
Last night detectives were continuing
to question a 15-year-old boy over
the murder of the popular Spanish teacher,
who was in her last term before retiring
from full-time work at the school
#where she spent her entire 40-year

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz30M8nL773

Nedusa 30-04-2014 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 6821388)
In her last moments, Ann Maguire's thoughts
were only for her pupils.
The 61-year-old teacher begged
them to flee rather than witness
the horrific attack on her by
one of their fellow students.

One teenager said: 'Mrs Maguire was
screaming at the kids in the class telling
them to get out because she didn't
want them to see what was happening.'
Last night detectives were continuing
to question a 15-year-old boy over
the murder of the popular Spanish teacher,
who was in her last term before retiring
from full-time work at the school
#where she spent her entire 40-year

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz30M8nL773

Just how long does it take to question this lad, the whole class are witnesses to what happened. Why is it taking 3 to 4 days to find out what happened in two minutes ?

Cherie 30-04-2014 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nedusa (Post 6821405)
Just how long does it take to question this lad, the whole class are witnesses to what happened. Why is it taking 3 to 4 days to find out what happened in two minutes ?

I expect it is a complicated as (a) he is under age,
(b), they need to tread carefully so they get the correct verdict, and he doesn't walk free in a few years time if he is psychotic.

Cherie 30-04-2014 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 6821174)
What a strange thing to say... Leeds is the third largest city in England, you can't write the whole place of due to the actions of one psychotic teenager.



.

Every area has its plus and minus points, no matter where you live.

InOne 30-04-2014 10:58 AM

He probably needs the life tariff and then when they feel he's old enough maybe Broadmoor.

AnnieK 30-04-2014 11:05 AM

It said on one of the news reports that his mum was on holiday which caused some delay in beginning questioning him and he had be evaluated by psychologists to deem he was fit for interview.

arista 30-04-2014 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nedusa (Post 6821405)
Just how long does it take to question this lad, the whole class are witnesses to what happened. Why is it taking 3 to 4 days to find out what happened in two minutes ?


Yes the Police are going far to slow on him.
They know he is the Guilty boy.



Grim Reaper is
on his facebook page

Ninastar 30-04-2014 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thesheriff443 (Post 6821353)
you do know you can get stabbed in any post code!

WHAT!/???

OMFG this is news to me

Z 30-04-2014 04:47 PM

That's so sad... she was begging the other pupils to get out so they didn't have to see... :/

Nedusa 30-04-2014 05:11 PM

Maybe if some of the pupils attacked him with chairs etc..........outcome may have been different

Maybe she would still be alive ?

Z 30-04-2014 05:15 PM

Possibly but would you fancy your chances against someone who had just stabbed your teacher multiple times in the neck with a knife? I'm not sure I would have.

Me. I Am Salman 30-04-2014 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nedusa (Post 6822003)
Maybe if some of the pupils attacked him with chairs etc..........outcome may have been different

Maybe she would still be alive ?

some of your posts are unreal :umm2:

arista 30-04-2014 06:31 PM

The 15 year old will be Charged
with Murder
He goes to court tomorrow in a Juvenile court

Cal. 30-04-2014 06:33 PM

She seemed like such a lovely teacher, the person who did it needs proper punishment!

user104658 30-04-2014 08:34 PM

I read about this earlier, exasperated but unsurprised that "violent games" are getting the blame once again in the rags. "Dark Souls" of all things... a high-fantasy game. Perhaps he mistook her for a dragon?

Anyway - of course it's glossed over that he was on or had been on anti-depressants, most likely SSRIs, and that SSRIs have the potential side effect of mania, psychosis and violent psychotic episodes. Relatively rare, but well documented and very real. Do you think we'll see that pointed out in the mainstream media? No, of course not. Not good for business.

Sigh.

Stop pumping kids full of barely understood, brain-altering chemicals and maybe we'll see fewer of these incidents. Whichever quack prescribed powerful mind-altering drugs to a hormonal teenage boy should be struck off. But then again - so many doctors do it - we'd probably have none left. IMO, these drugs need to be taken OUT of the hands of GPs and should only be available for prescription by doctors with full qualifications in psychiatry and neuropsychology. I have absolutely no doubt that this has played a role in what was clearly some sort of psychotic break.

Ammi 30-04-2014 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 6822454)
I read about this earlier, exasperated but unsurprised that "violent games" are getting the blame once again in the rags. "Dark Souls" of all things... a high-fantasy game. Perhaps he mistook her for a dragon?

Anyway - of course it's glossed over that he was on or had been on anti-depressants, most likely SSRIs, and that SSRIs have the potential side effect of mania, psychosis and violent psychotic episodes. Relatively rare, but well documented and very real. Do you think we'll see that pointed out in the mainstream media? No, of course not. Not good for business.

Sigh.

Stop pumping kids full of barely understood, brain-altering chemicals and maybe we'll see fewer of these incidents. Whichever quack prescribed powerful mind-altering drugs to a hormonal teenage boy should be struck off. But then again - so many doctors do it - we'd probably have none left. IMO, these drugs need to be taken OUT of the hands of GPs and should only be available for prescription by doctors with full qualifications in psychiatry and neuropsychology. I have absolutely no doubt that this has played a role in what was clearly some sort of psychotic break.

...hmmm, I'm not necessarily disagreeing about the medication but then if it's prescribed too often to young people but it's not often that someone does this type thing, then does that really contribute either as so many people take it... he was obviously not mentally healthy and could have always been that way and no matter whether he had taken medication or not...

user104658 30-04-2014 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 6822468)
...hmmm, I'm not necessarily disagreeing about the medication but then if it's prescribed too often to young people but it's not often that someone does this type thing, then does that really contribute either as so many people take it... he was obviously not mentally healthy and could have always been that way and no matter whether he had taken medication or not...

It's a rare side effect but it is a known side effect, as in, it's actually listed by the companies who make these drugs as a potential side effect. SSRI's are massively over-prescribed by people who have no idea what they're dishing out, and they have horrendous side effects in MANY cases. Not usually violent psychosis but a myriad of other things (organ and other tissue damage with prolonged use; onset of irreversible clinical depression due to damaged serotonin receptors; seizures of varying severity usually caused by serotonin flooding - which are actually relatively common).

Violent psychotic breaks are very rare in general so, when I see a story that obviously indicates that someone has had such an episode (and unless there's something more to this story, something that she had done to him that isn't known / hasn't been reported, then it can only really be put down to a psychotic episode) alongside blasé mention of him having been on mind-altering medication that has been clinically proven to potentially cause exactly this... then, it's hard not to see causation in it. Obviously there's no way to prove that this is exactly what's happened, and that, of course, is the problem - the reason that no one will bother to step in and stop these pills from being dished out to teenagers like smarties.

Nedusa 30-04-2014 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Salman! (Post 6822011)
some of your posts are unreal :umm2:

I thought you liked my posts... You told me so not long ago..

Kizzy 01-05-2014 01:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 6822572)
It's a rare side effect but it is a known side effect, as in, it's actually listed by the companies who make these drugs as a potential side effect. SSRI's are massively over-prescribed by people who have no idea what they're dishing out, and they have horrendous side effects in MANY cases. Not usually violent psychosis but a myriad of other things (organ and other tissue damage with prolonged use; onset of irreversible clinical depression due to damaged serotonin receptors; seizures of varying severity usually caused by serotonin flooding - which are actually relatively common).

Violent psychotic breaks are very rare in general so, when I see a story that obviously indicates that someone has had such an episode (and unless there's something more to this story, something that she had done to him that isn't known / hasn't been reported, then it can only really be put down to a psychotic episode) alongside blasé mention of him having been on mind-altering medication that has been clinically proven to potentially cause exactly this... then, it's hard not to see causation in it. Obviously there's no way to prove that this is exactly what's happened, and that, of course, is the problem - the reason that no one will bother to step in and stop these pills from being dished out to teenagers like smarties.

It is a possibility, I remember a friend of mine being prescribed seroxat at the same time as a couple of suicides, I was really worried but it appeared to be an accepted side effect :/

arista 01-05-2014 05:41 PM

He was in Court today
Answered Yes to Everything
including the murder.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/...57_634x504.jpg
[In the dock: The schoolboy accused of murdering
Ann Maguire appeared in court today
with a broken arm and nodded to his parents
who were watching from the public gallery]

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz30UFO7HrR

arista 02-05-2014 04:17 PM

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/...92_634x458.jpg
[Tributes: Yesterday Ann Maguire's tearful family
inspected flowers and notes stretching for
more than 150ft along the railings outside
the school where she was murdered]

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz30ZkWzESt


The 15 year old was in Crown Court today via Live Video link
again saying Yes to all questions


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