Not really because he admitted he was angry in the diary room later. Nothing but scum, really.

This tbh

Also Helen is quite like a bloke anyway. The way she speaks and behaves at least :laugh:

(I am aware that that in itself is a sexist/stereotyping comment :idc: )

Just like Helen was angry? Really don't see what you're getting at. Conor's rant was disgusting but that doesn't justify what Helen said.

Not really. I'd say the majority of people come out with "I'll kill her" "I could knock her out" and other similar sayings when angry or confronted. That doesn't make someone violent.

Is Helen has a tendency to get violent then it's a different story but simply coming out with a phrase like that isn't enough really.

How did I do that, or how was my comment any more of a justification than any of the comments made in defence of Helen. There's a massive difference between explaining something and justifying it, don't think anyone is trying to justify Helen's comment either but they are trying to explain it. Both were stupid things to say and that should be acknowledged but in different situations; Helen's as part of a raging row where she wouldn't have been thinking that clearly, Conor's as part of a group bitching session where he obviously took it too far in trying to show off to the others

I was just replying to MTVN's post about Conor.

With Helen, it was a throwaway comment, a few words and that's that, I just don't see the big deal. :shrug: she shouldn't have said it but I really don't think it was that bad.

i want a fist fight

Vulgar chav.

Mancs always have **** representation, send me and Annie in to sort it out :idc:

I don't get the Conor comparisons. What he said was actually disturbing. The manner in which he said it was far different. Deana was being octracized that entire episode when she did nothing wrong, and it felt extremely uncomfortable to watch.

What Helen said on the other hand was a throwaway comment after an argument with Danielle where both gave as good as they got. Still, I agree it was out of line for her to say but it's tame in comparison to Conor's threats. I'm far more of a fan of Danielle so this is in no way a biased opinion.

Nope, you could tell he genuinely had a problem with Deana and couldn't bear to even look at her face

I don't think this is comparable to Conor btw at all. I barely watched that series but I did watch that bit and he was just replusive.

I know that, a lot of them did and he sort of assumed the head of the Insiders so always sought to outdo everyone else in the bitching which all came to a head with that rap (again that's not me trying to justify it). I don't really like comparisons like this because they make out two things are exactly the same only by isolating them from their completely different contexts, so really I don't think Conor is relevant at all tbh

So now we can add threats of physical violence to Helen's collection of vulgar behaviours. What a sterling example she's setting for her son. He's going to be mighty proud of her in the future, that's for sure.

People say all sorts in an argument. Bringing her kid into it is out of order.

I'm sure he'll be very proud of her, who are you to assess what kind of mother she is? Do you have cameras installed in her house that you watch her on 24/7? I made this point in another thread but no matter who you support, the way housemates act in a constructed and hyperreal environment on a television shows bears no relevance whatsoever as to what they're like as parents, friends, family members and it's disgusting to bring it up to criticise them. So unnecessary

Ok, point taken. I will not bring family members into any further criticisms I make of HMs.

Did no one go to school on here? Comments like this happened daily in high school for me and never amounted to anything. It's just trash talk.

She was
a Hooker

..great housemate to an extent Joe..I think for the moment and as she's probably relaxed in knowing she's going to be there the whole time and so being part of lots of 'dramas' etc, it's a great start to the series and creates lots to talk about..with others as well, she's not the only one but she's the only one that has a guaranteed place so in a way has less to lose sort of thing by her behaviour...but for me, tthat has a very short entertainment value as I think a constantly conflicting house is equally as tedious as a 'quiet' house ..you get to the point where you're kind of 'immune' to being entertained by it if it's all you see of that person and there is no balance of interest to their character..well I do anyway...

Someone with some sense on this forum for a change - not sure some people here live in the real world or ever leave their bubble.
People say things like this all the time (myself included) they never have or would. I guarantee Helen never would its just a way of expressing how you feel. I've already said I'd knock Danielle out about 100 times and I'm only having to watch the moron - but I'd never dream of actually doing it :laugh:

True.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/...21_468x698.jpg

Ooft she's a rough one eh

As rough as a badgers arse.

haha. once again. good one.

Good lord is that actually her

she looks like a bloke

:worship:

exactly. all sorts of throwaway comments get said in the heat of the moment when you're mad with someone and that's what I'd consider this to be in helen's situation.

:shocked:

God she looks a bloody state

does she even have tits?

Does she have a tash there? lol

Wow, the boob job, new hairdo, new teeth and tan really did improve her.

I'm not usually a fan of cosmetic surgery but it's done wonders with her. :eek:

The producers told her to... :whistle:

She was on Corrie?

It's like a different person.

Me too, then she can take her skanky arse back to Bolton and shag another ugly footballer

Is it a bird, a plane, a bloke????