I think taken in isolation the fat jibe might not have seemed so bad - but when we also see him calling her a 'maggot' it just makes him look like he has it in for her.
Add to that the fact that Jale has a nice down to earth personality and doesn't seem in the least back stabbing or malicious and Ash comes across as nasty and vindictive. I think he's the kind of person who could never believe anyone could possibly find fault with him. I really dislike him. :notimpressed:

Jale is no saint Jet, do remember how she treated Chris last week.

Just putting it out there but the way Matthew said Marlon looked fat (on tv) was very different to how Ash called Jale fat.

Matthew was wrong to say it but I don't believe he said it to hurt anyone but Ash made the comment about Jale to try and make people laugh at her expense.

Neither were right to say what they did but I think Ash comment came from a much darker place and had a lot more venom behind it.

They both meant it with venom, only difference is that Matthew wasn't brave enough to say it to Marlon's face and Marlon's friends and family can't do anything to warn Marlon of what Matthew said either.

How she treated him? - WTH - She had a perfectly normal reaction to finding out something she would rather not know or have to keep to herself. She told the 2 people she was closest too in a knee jerk reaction and didn't take it any further. He wasn't harmed by it in the least.
Chris is a big fave of mine and I wasn't bothered by her reaction at all. :shrug:

Ash didn't exactly say his comments to Jale's face either, considering he was quite distant from the pool where Jale had just dived in.

Ash did't say it to Jale's face either, just to his little crew.

Freeee willyyyyyyy

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Shes chubby but shes not that big

Making out that he was holding her hostage was a normal reaction? Wtf!?

He shouted it so she heard him though.

Ash is a prick!!!! He's like Helen's side-bully when it comes to Jale!
Calling her a "maggot" because he didn't agree with her reason for nominating him in that clip earlier tonight was disgusting too and that was directly to her face!!!!
He's a nasty piece of work twat!!!!:yuk:

Yes, it was a knee jerk reaction imo and as she didn't blab the hostage thing to all and sundry but spoke to him about it in person I don't see what the big deal is. Compared to how the majority of the HM's are behaving it's not even a blip on my radar. :)

No. If she heard what Ash called her, she would've at least turned around to see him, or react in some way. But Jale just carried on as usual, which indicates she didn't hear him at all.

He didnt shout it?

Definitely.

Whether Jale heard it or not Ash still said it for others to hear in an attempt to demean her which still makes him a huge twat!!!!
The "maggot" thing was much worse again and was said in a really nasty, hateful way and directly to her face. Ash is the fu**ing maggot in that house!!!

Oh here we go

I'm pretty sure he said it cause of her weight, can't stand the guy he's just horrible.

Chop his tongue off, silence him, how dare he make a joke?

She jumped in first ,so clearly a weight jibe

Ash is a really nasty piece of work.....he has made many personal derogatory remarks to people....he and Helen make a good couple...

We all have short memories on here don't we, remember the fat HM Becky........OMG how we taunted her about her weight along with a fair number of HM if I remember correctly.

Being fattist is not a crime (yet) so a humerous one off comment like that from Ash should not be taken too seriously. Given that he is a model and probably has not been able to eat proper food for years he probably does think fat people are lazy & ill disciplined.

It's no reason to hate the guy.



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he calls her a maggot tonight

But when its marlon getting called fat, by matthew and toya laughing at it, nothing gets said..
this is just it:laugh:

"Gender eqaulity" my back foot. Its non-existent on this site:facepalm:

in English words your just to fat and when she splash in half the water was gone

women are more sensitive about there weight then men

lol really?
This is wat i mean.
What do you base this on exactly? Cause i completely dIsagree.

I don't like jokes about someone's weight. No matter who says it it's always wrong to me.

He's a bigger bitch than helen.

It was about her weight I think and Matthew said Marlon looks fat on tv but he's not like that in real life. I don't really like people saying stuff about appearance really

I have to laugh when a woman asks the question "Does this dress make me look fat.....No, your fat makes you look fat...... lol




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By far its not even close. Helen just has a really annoying loud voice so it doesn't seem that way

Why ?

..from what I recall though Jemal..(I'll have to find somewhere to watch it back..)..Matthew said that Marlon looks either fat or fatter on the screen than he actually was and I thought Toya gave him a puzzled look at first until she also realised what he meant and then smiled...