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Samm 28-06-2014 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by flamingGalah! (Post 6991336)
No, I am not "wrong" dear, I simply don't share your opinion.

Sorry dear it's not a opinion it's a fact

flamingGalah! 28-06-2014 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ~Sam~ (Post 6991354)
Sorry dear it's not a opinion it's a fact

No, your opinion is not "fact" at all :joker: Oh dear...

Firewire 28-06-2014 04:06 PM

How is it discrimination? Don't be ridiculous, Josy.

Marsh. 28-06-2014 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Speedster (Post 6991350)
At lest she didn't become a control freak like Pauline, or go savage like Toya.

Comparing her to bitches doesn't make her interesting.

Jake. 28-06-2014 04:27 PM

Boremara provided nothing, such a let down of a housemate

daniel-lewis-1985 28-06-2014 04:34 PM

Is the fact the 3 girls being evicted 1st discrimination?

BB had to step in or we would have no females left and lets be honest the guys in there are about as entertaining as watching Marlon taking a dump.

Marsh. 28-06-2014 04:35 PM

I don't think any girls were in danger of going this week anyway.

Unless of course something was about to happen with Danielle and Ashleigh, I'd say Ash/Marlon/Steven were in danger this week regardless of this twist.

Only Helen would've been a guarantee and obviously she can't be evicted.

daniel-lewis-1985 28-06-2014 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Josy (Post 6990764)
It is about the public and always has been...the hm's get to choose who to nominate and we choose who to evict.

And why would there need to be an equal male to female balance in the house, it's never worked like that? :huh:

If you are horrible to live with and get nominated you are more than likely going to be evicted regardless of gender, simple.

Well if its regardless of gender there should be no issue seeing as you don't see different genders as non equals do you?

If all male and female housemates are equal because you don't judge them on their gender then why is this discrimination?

Its just like any other twist, no big deal.

Was BB8 Sexist? LOL!!

Josy 28-06-2014 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985 (Post 6991463)
Is the fact the 3 girls being evicted 1st discrimination?

BB had to step in or we would have no females left and lets be honest the guys in there are about as entertaining as watching Marlon taking a dump.

Possibly but I think it's obvious why 3 females have been evicted first and it's nothing to do with gender.

However this thread is specifically about the twist and asks whether you think it's discrimination or not.

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Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985 (Post 6991469)
Well if its regardless of gender there should be no issue seeing as you don't see different genders as non equals do you?

If all male and female housemates are equal because you don't judge them on their sexuality then why is this discrimination?

Its just like any other twist, no big deal.

Was BB8 Sexist? LOL!!

Your first comment in the quote above doesn't even make sense in relation to my comment?

We, the viewers get to decide the balance of the house and if that means more females get voted out first then so be it.

They are nominated by the others for a reason....

Marsh. 28-06-2014 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985 (Post 6991469)
Well if its regardless of gender there should be no issue seeing as you don't see different genders as non equals do you?

If all male and female housemates are equal because you don't judge them on their sexuality then why is this discrimination?

Can you explain this better because I'm not sure whether my brain has stopped working or it doesn't make a bit of sense.

Speedster 28-06-2014 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985 (Post 6991463)
Is the fact the 3 girls being evicted 1st discrimination?

BB had to step in or we would have no females left and lets be honest the guys in there are about as entertaining as watching Marlon taking a dump.

T-H-I-S. It's been going on for years and no-one's said a word about, now, all of a sudden it's a man's problem so people have panic attacks about the "injustice" the "poor guys".

It'll all be back to normal next week and we can all sit back and see the "natural order" of thing return as women start getting evicted one after the other out of the house to a chorus of boos and settle down for the inevitable all male final where a nobody who has has the right body parts wins £100,000.

Josy 28-06-2014 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Speedster (Post 6991509)
T-H-I-S. It's been going on for years and no-one's said a word about, now, all of a sudden it's a man's problem so people have panic attacks about the "injustice" the "poor guys".

It'll all be back to normal next week and we can all sit back and see the "natural order" of thing return as women start getting evicted one after the other out of the house to a chorus of boos and settle down for the inevitable all male final where a nobody who has has the right body parts wins £100,000.

Hmm I don't think anyone's even that bothered about it tbh but it does seem like its discrimination.

I will be interested to see if next week is 'Boy Power' but I very much doubt it will be..

Speedster 28-06-2014 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 6991441)
Comparing her to bitches doesn't make her interesting.

Agreed but it does make her less offensive and more deserving of a bit better treatment than she got. Anyway, all the men are dull but people seem fine with that.

Marsh. 28-06-2014 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Speedster (Post 6991509)
T-H-I-S. It's been going on for years and no-one's said a word about, now, all of a sudden it's a man's problem so people have panic attacks about the "injustice" the "poor guys".

It'll all be back to normal next week and we can all sit back and see the "natural order" of thing return as women start getting evicted one after the other out of the house to a chorus of boos and settle down for the inevitable all male final where a nobody who has has the right body parts wins £100,000.

Yeah, that's why we've had male heavy finals for the last 15 years.

Oh no, wait, the majority of the finals has been fairly equal male/female lineup.

Marsh. 28-06-2014 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Speedster (Post 6991514)
Agreed but it does make her less offensive and more deserving of a bit better treatment than she got. Anyway, all the men are dull but people seem fine with that.

If you want to relate this to sexism then it would hold more water if a man could be evicted in Tamara's place. Only 3 women faced the vote that week so it's irrelevant. It was a woman no matter why people were voting.

And don't try to tell me only women get heavy boos. The majority of the housemates bar a couple at the end have got heavy boos for at least the last 8 years.

Speedster 28-06-2014 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Josy (Post 6991513)
Hmm I don't think anyone's even that bothered about it tbh but it does seem like its discrimination.

I will be interested to see if next week is 'Boy Power' but I very much doubt it will be..

They [I]have[I] to do it sooner or later otherwise it [I]discrimination[I] but they'd better move fast or they'll run out of women fast.

joeysteele 28-06-2014 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985 (Post 6991463)
Is the fact the 3 girls being evicted 1st discrimination?

BB had to step in or we would have no females left and lets be honest the guys in there are about as entertaining as watching Marlon taking a dump.

I usually agree a lot with you but I wouldn't see the instances you list above as discrimination.

BB didn't just put them up,they were chosen in a haphazard way at times to be up for eviction,however there were always male housemates up as well.
Therefore the people who pay to vote had a choice of voting out a male or a female but used their money and time to vote out 3 females.

I said in my post earlier that giving only the females power would be discrimination only if in a later week BB doesn't give all the males power for a time too.
Since that would result in discrimination with only the males housemate up this week should there not be a week with only female housemates up.

For me however, BB is stepping in far too much and fiddling about with noms and saving this one and choosing that one.
Time they stepped out of the picture I think anyway, as to that for at least a couple of weeks.

Marsh. 28-06-2014 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Speedster (Post 6991523)
They [I]have[I] to do it sooner or later otherwise it [I]discrimination[I] but they'd better move fast or they'll run out of women fast.

That's ridiculous. The housemates and BB largely decide who the public can vote for. If the women are dominating the highlights and cluttering the eviction line up then a woman will be evicted.

Speedster 28-06-2014 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 6991521)
If you want to relate this to sexism then it would hold more water if a man could be evicted in Tamara's place. Only 3 women faced the vote that week so it's irrelevant. It was a woman no matter why people were voting.

And don't try to tell me only women get heavy boos. The majority of the housemates bar a couple at the end have got heavy boos for at least the last 8 years.

No, wasn't talking about sexism, I was just trying to explain why I think Tamara's eviction wasn't exactly fair that week-I voted like mad to get Danielle out because of how she acted, I think, by comparison, Tamara was harmless.

Speedster 28-06-2014 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 6991527)
That's ridiculous. The housemates and BB largely decide who the public can vote for. If the women are dominating the highlights and cluttering the eviction line up then a woman will be evicted.

No-I was talking about this week''s twist so that BB put all the women up and let the guys do the voting.

Marsh. 28-06-2014 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Speedster (Post 6991538)
No-I was talking about this week''s twist so that BB put all the women up and let the guys do the voting.

Yes, but you over exaggerated by saying it needed to be done or they'd run out of women. That's ridiculous insinuating that the voters want women out because they're women.

Apple202 28-06-2014 05:17 PM

no but you saying that females are more argumentative and bitchy is :hehe:

Marsh. 28-06-2014 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Apple202 (Post 6991554)
no but you saying that females are more argumentative and bitchy is :hehe:

She said the female housemates, not females in general, try again.

Having said that, even Helen said she doesn't get along with women because they're "bitchy, sneaky and sly". :hehe:

Josy 28-06-2014 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Apple202 (Post 6991554)
no but you saying that females are more argumentative and bitchy is :hehe:

No it isn't, it's a fact that the females in this BB house argue and bitch more than the males :umm2:

Shaun 28-06-2014 06:08 PM

well by strict definition of the word 'discrimination' yes

daniel-lewis-1985 28-06-2014 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 6991524)
I usually agree a lot with you but I wouldn't see the instances you list above as discrimination.

BB didn't just put them up,they were chosen in a haphazard way at times to be up for eviction,however there were always male housemates up as well.
Therefore the people who pay to vote had a choice of voting out a male or a female but used their money and time to vote out 3 females.

I said in my post earlier that giving only the females power would be discrimination only if in a later week BB doesn't give all the males power for a time too.
Since that would result in discrimination with only the males housemate up this week should there not be a week with only female housemates up.

For me however, BB is stepping in far too much and fiddling about with noms and saving this one and choosing that one.
Time they stepped out of the picture I think anyway, as to that for at least a couple of weeks.

Perhaps I didn't make myself clear sorry im still hungover lol I was implying that discrimination does not exist in this task its just that BB are stepping in because the show is at risk of losing its bigger characters.

The men this year are just wet so I don't blame BB at all for giving the girls the power, they are the only ones who can seem to form an opinion and not cry and throw a hissy fit when being nominated (barr Danielle in week 1 lol).

If the men had proven themselves and not let the girls rule the roost then maybe they would be the power housemates instead. Its because the girls have dominated the show and been opinionated whilst the guys pretty much lay low as to why they have been evicted first.

If the men want the power they need to grow some testicles and earn it!

Brother Leon 28-06-2014 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985 (Post 6991669)
Perhaps I didn't make myself clear sorry im still hungover lol I was implying that discrimination does not exist in this task its just that BB are stepping in because the show is at risk of losing its bigger characters.

The men this year are just wet so I don't blame BB at all for giving the girls the power, they are the only ones who can seem to form an opinion and not cry and throw a hissy fit when being nominated (barr Danielle in week 1 lol).

If the men had proven themselves and not let the girls rule the roost then maybe they would be the power housemates instead. Its because the girls have dominated the show and been opinionated whilst the guys pretty much lay low as to why they have been evicted first.

If the men want the power they need to grow some testicles and earn it!

Yeah. Not like the boys didn't destroy the last power HM and ALSO got them evicted from the house :joker:

daniel-lewis-1985 28-06-2014 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Brother Leon (Post 6991675)
Yeah. Not like the boys didn't destroy the last power HM and ALSO got them evicted from the house :joker:

They whined and cried like like little bitches because they couldn't take being put up for eviction.

Look at the girls reactions this week compared to theirs.

Girls took it on the chin the boys threw hissy fits.

Even though Toya left she took her nomination like a pro.

Brother Leon 28-06-2014 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985 (Post 6991683)
They whined and cried like like little bitches because they couldn't take being put up for eviction.

Look at the girls reactions this week compared to theirs.

Girls took it on the chin the boys threw hissy fits.

Even though Toya left she took her nomination like a pro.

Yeah. Some of The girls instead just cry and complain about everything else though...

daniel-lewis-1985 28-06-2014 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Brother Leon (Post 6991689)
Yeah. Some of The girls instead just cry and complain about everything else though...

As do the guys.

Steven crying over being nominated a classic example and Ash and Winston throwing tantrums thinking how dare they be nominated was just uncomfortable to watch.

Marsh. 28-06-2014 06:22 PM

Let's just agree, male or female, they're all a bunch of bastards this year. :idc:

daniel-lewis-1985 28-06-2014 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 6991696)
Let's just agree, male or female, they're all a bunch of bastards this year. :idc:

HAHA.

Agreed.

jet 28-06-2014 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985 (Post 6991692)
As do the guys.

Steven crying over being nominated a classic example and Ash and Winston throwing tantrums thinking how dare they be nominated was just uncomfortable to watch.

How right you are! A lot of the boys are so wimpy this year.

Brother Leon 28-06-2014 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985 (Post 6991692)
As do the guys.

Steven crying over being nominated a classic example and Ash and Winston throwing tantrums thinking how dare they be nominated was just uncomfortable to watch.

Back to nominations...I would rather people reactif badly to noms than to Someone working out or jumping in te pool.

daniel-lewis-1985 28-06-2014 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Brother Leon (Post 6991718)
Back to nominations...I would rather people reactif badly to noms than to Someone working out or jumping in te pool.

Yeh me to, Michelles reaction to being constantly nominated in BB5 was awesome.

Just talking about the power and is it discrimination, females are usually seen as the weaker gender (I don't know why) but this year the boys are just pussys and the girls are ruling that house and deservedly so.

reece(: 28-06-2014 06:41 PM

no one wants to watch a house full of men, as much as they vote out all the women.

andybigbro 28-06-2014 07:08 PM

No it's just a twist.

I wouldn't have said the all female launch in BB8 was sexist either.

Josy 28-06-2014 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by andybigbro (Post 6991856)
No it's just a twist.

I wouldn't have said the all female launch in BB8 was sexist either.

Completely different scenarios though.

The producers have actually guaranteed that a male housemate is going to be evicted this week.

That is a step too far with the interfering IMO.

Macie Lightfoot 28-06-2014 07:31 PM

^ of course you think it's a step too far because your precious Ash is in jeopardy

Josy 28-06-2014 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by troynuncdicit (Post 6991945)
^ of course you think it's a step too far because your precious Ash is in jeopardy

Do you have anything of worth to add to the thread topic?


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