Bianca said she dislikes Danielle & Ashleigh the most this morning [It's on the youtube channel & c5 website /:]

Why are you clapping someone that has completely confused themselves by what I posted, it's been explained to Jack what I meant with my first post and yet 4 pages later he is still going on about it.

How would I know. But they've set the situation up so that she is the most vulnerable person to go on Friday. Just like they set the situation up that Marlon was almost certainly out on Monday. They didn't have to do that.... But they did. They chose to.

You seem to actually believe that the producers of the show don't think what the possible outcomes of these decisions they make will be. And I find that incredible.

There's your clue "from the beginning" they are likeable people who stayed likeable.

People like Pauline and Ashleigh whose likability goes up and down quicker than Kim's knickers is not the same thing.

Guessing Brian Dowling had the win when he's favourite throughout the series is entirely different to someone whose popularity changes with the wind.

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Because you're the one confused?

So they've created a twist for Friday..... because Ashleigh said out loud she wants to leave..... for no other reason than they can?

And I have to believe this in order to not be naive? :think:

You seemed more confused about what was said regarding the polls. Everyone's going round in circles :spin:

I edited my post above to ask this but then why did they want Marlon to go?

Yeah that second part I have read you say numerous times but I wont rise to it...I personally find it incredible you are coming up with all these conspiracies against the producers but you cannot answer the most important question which is why?

I haven't been discussing the polls for 4 pages.

Have you got anything on topic you wish to add to this thread?

I'm not confused at all, I was having a discussion with you not MMI :shrug:

The producers decided to evict two housemates in one week WITHOUT PHONE VOTE PROFITS just to get rid of Ashleigh?

Yeah, they really are desperate to get rid. :laugh:

Can you stop trying to say my posts are worthless, other people do agree with me, so you're not the only voice of reason, other people do have different theories/thoughts/opinions

Yes: As an Ashleigh fan I really don't care if she goes or nah

Could have created any twist they wanted to... They could have done the reverse of what they've done... All up vote to save, Steven goes, the others decide which 2 out of the 3 remain. But they did what they did, and they clearly think these things through and work out what the most likely outcomes are going to be.

It's a simple enough point that seems to me to be an obvious truth. They come up with the twists with certain outcomes that they either want or don't mind in their heads. They came up with whoever gets the most nominations gets evicted knowing full well, like the rest of us, that Marlon was probably gone.

And if you don't understand this, then yes, you're naive.

Oh my God Miranda I actually agree with you! YAY! I wish she would stop saying she wants to go after spending a fortune on voting Jale out last week I really could do without it tbh.

This is an open forum, not a private one, everyone is allowed to post & have their own thoughts/opinions, I'm getting tired of mine being sweeped under the rug again.

I think the reason Marlon pressed the button was so that Ashleigh would be evicted. It didn't work though because of Ashleigh's fanbase.

New plan to ensure she is evicted. Give the 3 new housemates the power to evict without a public vote. Ashleigh is gone, nothing public can do about it.

Use Marlon as the test subject to soften the blow

I never said your posts were worthless, what an odd assumption to come up with.

Another strange post. Keep on topic please.

A simple point with an obvious truth...... which you can't even explain. :laugh: They seemingly are desperate to get her out that they'd give up phone vote profits, simply to annoy you. :shrug: Because the producers really give a sh*t.

So when someone other than Ashleigh is evicted on Friday will your story change?

You should write novels.

Why though?

The moment they decided to evict whoever had the most nominations knowing full well it was going to be Marlon. As those of us just watching a HL show knew it would be. And they having 24/7 access knew it would be with even greater confidence.

I don't need to answer why. I can't read their minds. There are twists that they will think through and go with depending on what the likely results are. That is just obvious.

They knew Makosi would get more votes than Vanessa... So rather than have the person with the most votes go and take out the biggest character left in the show, they decided the top two would face a HM vote knowing Vanessa would leave.

That's how the show works when they do things like this. Everything is thought out.

So now Marlon was in on it? :joker:

Why would they want Marlon gone? you seem to be posting an awful lot of words but never answering any questions put to you about your theories.

Except the details of the twist were announced BEFORE the housemates nominated that week of BB6 so the producers did not know who would nominate and who wouldn't.

Remember it was only the people who declined nominations that faced the public vote.

The producers are psychic now?

If the producers are creating a show, all the different players have their role to play. Kimberly and Steven have their roles, Helen has her role etc. Ashleigh's role was not to be the winner.

What is it you want me to explain? Why Ashleigh? I have no idea. But the fact is every decision they make, they have thought through the most likely consequences of it.

No, because I've already said that they set it up so it could only be one of a couple. The most likely of which was Ashleigh.

The post that seems to have bugged a lot of you is just me pointing out the ridiculousness of the person topping every popularity poll being evicted by other HMs because they decided to go with this twist, knowing full well what the most likely result would be.

oh -sobs-

So the housemates are all playing out roles? :joker:

She said she did not like Danielle and that Ashleigh seems to be unhappy in the house, doesn't mean she does not like her.

That's wrong actually. They changed that twist at the very last moment before lines opened on BBLB so the top 2 would then face a housemate vote. They even waited to see who did nominate and who did not before deciding which ones would be up for eviction. That whole twist was designed to get boring Vanessa out and they kept making it up as they went along to make sure it was her.

They didn't reveal that until after they saw who nominated and who didn't. I remember this very well.


See above. But keep on defending them. Your naivity is sweet

No it isn't because a) I don't keep up with polls and b) we have no idea who will be evicted.

The part of your posts which baffle me (I'm not bugged at all) is the fact that the producers think through these twists so much so that they are sure who is probably going to be evicted...... for no reason anyone can fathom.

The reason is the most important element.

It's like accusing someone of murder and saying they did it because they had the opportunity. But without motive it's meaningless.

Producers don't do things for the hell of it, there has to be a reason.

Defending who? I'm not defending anyone, I'm calling bullsh*t when I see it.

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They certainly knew Marlon was going to be evicted. And we all know Ashleigh is in serious trouble this week because of and only because of this twist. If we know that, then the producers know that.


Because they have their show planned in their minds and know who they want to stick around and who they're happy to see go. It's not rocket science. They wanted Vanessa out over Makosi because Vanessa was dull and Makosi was the last of the bigger characters left.

If you were creating a show with a showmance being one of the main storylines of the show, would you create a vanilla love story? Or, would you create a wacky and weird showmance with bonking, ex bf's and ex gf's, weird mothers, fingering, catchphrases and talking point after talking point after talking point?

You're not making a very good case defending them. do you honestly think they don't have what the consequences of the decisions they make are going to be in mind when they make them?

That's another point, I know for a fact there is manipulation goes on with the show, the way we are presented the highlights for example those clips are manipulated to make us think something else rather than what is actually happening a lot of the time but to say the producers are manipulating the entire show, coming up with big twists and so on to suit a preplanned agenda and affect one housemates without an actual reason for them doing it is just ridiculous.

It doesn't matter at all to the producers who wins this show.

What's ridiculous is that you can't see it when it's staring you in the face.