Has is stopped her from being popular in the house or out? No. Her behaviour has stopped her from being popular outside with the public and inside with certain others, and even now you get the sense that thanks to her warnings and the time she has to redeem herself she's been guided into being someone more likable. She'd have been out in week 2 or 3 otherwise.

Has it made her have to worry less about being evicted and therefore have a more stress free time? Yes

Has it allowed her to be involved in as much drama as she wants to without any worry she'll be evicted? Yes.

I can't believe someone is actually now arguing that a free pass to the final doesn't make someone's time in the house easier.

Yes, from our perspective it seemed easier for Jale. But from her perspective she could have gone every week for all she knew. And eventually she did.

No one is moaning about Helen's pass here. But it is f'n obvious that it has meant she has had an easier ride than others.

Jale's cheers told me no, it wasn't that hard for her.

I never said the pass doesn't make some things "easier" but you discuss it as though it makes her appearance "easy". Two very different things.

I'd already provided examples in the OP.

Jesus Christ, you're impenetrable.

She didn't know she was going to get cheers when her name was announced. And as I said, eventually she did go.

No, I said she's had in it easier than others. Such as Ashleigh.

To bullsh*t, I certainly am. We'll stop here because we've entered another of your never-ending cycles. I'm getting off the ride and getting a refund.

Yaki da. :xyxwave:

Ashleigh is a strong girl, she deserves to win.

And once again you failed, from the get-go, to provide any counter arguments and just posted smiley's and piffy remarks.

It's all your posts deserve my darling.

And yet you're still here replying. :laugh:

Is that a piffy remark and a smiley? :hehe: Oh dear.

Good God ,the state of this thread,I hope she's out next then we might get some peace,jeez there is support and then there is obsession.

I can't help it if you're all incapable of taking part in a discussion, which is what a forum is supposed to be for.

Too right.

Why?

She isn't close to having had the toughest time In there..

This isn't a discussion,it's an interrogation :hehe:

I might give Digital Spy a go. You get a slightly higher level of debate there.

On the contrary, she spent half her time isolated in the bedroom/pod away from everyone.

Good luck with that.

But that's the thing, it's not a debate because you can't accept opinions that differ from yours. People are "incapable" of seeing things as opposed to disagreeing.

God, you're still here. Josy offered some arguments (some of which I agreed with)... Neither you nor Kazanne do. Or when you do, they're laughable, such as thinking Helen hasn't had it easier than the others.

In a nut shell. You have answered yourself. In law everyone is an adult. You can fight wars, get married etc.

Stop being repetitive and obtuse for argument sake.

Ok love. I wouldn't want you to hurt yourself.

Maybe BB has hired me to respond.... you know for no reason? :hehe:

Try friends are us.

C'mon Marsh,lets go down the pub you've had such a lot to cope with,:joker:
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I say well done Marsh. Well controlled imo.

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Good point Josy :dance:

A girl who mopes around the house with a teddy bear, sits in the pod and bitches, doesn't join in in fun things like the pool party or the lads doing their pretend stripping, acts horrified that people are having sex in the bedroom.( Has she never seen the show????) Distances herself from all the girls cept poor Danielle, advised Danielle not to trust or have anything to do with Kim even though Danielle really wanted to still stay friends with Kim. Ashleigh is a waste of space as a contestant. There were so many others who would have given their eye teeth to have the experience and now the moaning bitch wants to go home. You know where the ****ing door is girl

Called having morals actually. Maybe she doesn't think the most profoundly private thing that people can share with each other should be put on display in such a vulgar manner in front of over a million people.


That would be the Kim who mysteriously disappears from the house and told lies to the person she was closest to about her relationship status.


Nice to see a young girl who isn't part of the let it all hang out in the crudest way possible culture.

Did you read what I posted? We still make distinctions when making judgements on people and age is something people take into consideration. It is perfectly f'n obvious that a person that is 36 years old is expected to be more mature and adult than an 18 year old.

Some of you really are thick I'm afraid.

exactly :clap1:

I love Ashleigh....