Favourites often don't win, the celebrations in my view are way too soon as other series have shown.

Me and my mates hate her,nasty backstabbing cow

Sorry but to me that is to her credit, someone really nasty who didn't care would have gone on regardless, the fact she has listened to 'authority of a sort' and been able to amend her behaviour is a good thing.

It demonstrates too that she can show respect and also look, we have only seen her have a talking to and then a final warning.When you and others can show me where there is more warnings,that are 'confirmed' and have been shown then that argument may have better substantiation.

Guided or not, her behaviour did change once it was pointed out as being unacceptable, I have lost count of the weeks ago that was now,it still shows she could do it and did do it and I say again that is to her credit.

Further condemnation of her would have been justified had she not done so and I would have been one of the first to do so too, as I did at the start of the series.

She said tonight she was the last REAL female left due to no help/passes WRONG she got a pass on the week after she got booed so every chance she would have gone,she also got one the week all females had power

Irrelevant. Ashleigh has survived evictions. Helen hasn't even been eligible to be nominated. Ashleigh and the other housemates have earned their place. Helen was gifted her place.

Exactly. There is no argument as to that. :thumbs:

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You say Ashleigh wouldn't have any storylines of note without her 'hatred' of Helen, but you fail to point out that 'all Helen's storylines with different HM's' of note have been nasty ones. Her bullying of Jale, her nasty treatment of Chris and Christopher, her nasty arguments with Matthew, Danielle etc. Her warnings for name calling and bullying. What storyline has she had that hasn't included nastiness? Kissing Ash? :sleep:
I don't see continuous nastiness and bullying as noteworthy at all...and I certainly don't see Ashleigh bitching about that nastiness and bullying as 'two faced' as you seem to because she wasn't being nice to Helen's face and she was saying what the majority of us were saying. What is your definition of two faced? :conf:

And the fact is, you can't possibly know what kind of storylines Ashleigh or any of them would have had without the presence of the awful Helen, especially in the early weeks. I don't forget how the HM's said the house was much better and they enjoyed it more when she was in the morgue....

It's noteworthy because it's basically been the singular running storyline of the entire series.

The week after she was booed, or chanted to get out, she was up with Jale. She survived. And topped the popularity polls from that moment since.

Noteworthy only for Helen's unpleasantness and for making this series one of the worst ever. What an achievement for her. :laugh:

Well with respect Ashleigh had no storylines for close on the first 3 weeks of the series, all we saw was a miserable,reclusive housemate who did and said absolutely nothing of note at all.
Also all Ashleigh could do in the main,when they were in the morgue, was talk about Helen while she was out of the house.
The girl was obsessed with Helen for goodness sake,it was like she was on a mission.
She actually only got a higher profile when she started the 2 faced backstabbing of Helen and Ash and still, that is the only thing she can be highlighted for.

I cannot think of one other thing Ashleigh has done or said that brings her to the forefront of this series, other than her Helen storyline and trying to get Ash evicted to get at Helen.
A lot of spiteful acts with one spiteful aim,does not make for a good housemate in my view and certainly not a winning one either.

She has in fact had only one triumph so far in the house, that was to ensure Ash was not saved,or considered to be saved in the all female power week, a week she herself could have likely gone had she been eligible to be up since then she was well and truly booed too.
She was however, probably saved then herself by BB making her immune that week too.
Something you regularly and surprisingly overlook, she has had 2 'free' immune weeks too,to help her go further in the series.

How silly, I'm 44 I don't fancy her in the slightest.

Same here. I have 2 daughters older than Ashleigh, one of which was bullied viciously at school. I feel empathy for Ashleigh and know the place she is coming from. I think she is enormously brave for trying to weaken Helen's position in the house, and she's the one person Helen knew/knows she couldn't/can't mess with. I admire and applaud Ashleigh for that.

Nothing wrong if you did, she's built by nature to be fancied by anyone aged 10-100!

I absolutely love Ashleigh! ASHLEIGH TO WIN❤️❤️❤️.

Ashleigh is the true winner of this series no matter what happens in the final.

What you surprisingly overlook is that Ashleigh was badly bullied at school! Then she goes into BB and finds herself in a position of being stuck with another one for 10 weeks. For the first few weeks she watches Helen shout and scream and bully Jale, Danielle, Matthew, Chris, Christopher etc and get multiple warnings and you wonder why she stayed in the backgroud? We hardly seen Chris or Christopher either for the first few weeks.

You seem to have expected a teenager to have marched up to a loud mouthed vile bully and tackled her! After the behaviour she seen from her with others who crossed her? So what does she do - she bitches about her with her friend - completely normal for a teenager.
So during girl power she uses her intelligence to weaken the untouchable Helen's position. She tries to get Helen's bestie, Ash, up for nomination and she is happy and excited when it works. This is the Ash who laughs at Helen's name calling and eggs her on, remember. All you can say is she was being spiteful and horrible as if Helen and Ash were the 2 loveliest people in there....

She's had storylines that showed how resilient and courageous she is when BB set her up - first when they gave Kim and Helen ammunition to slate her from the morgue - second they showed the video to Helen, Kim and Jale - third she got immunity from the public and BB unexpectedly gave others the power to take it away from her. Throughout all this, she kept her cool and her dignity and took it on the chin.
As she has done when nominated - unlike Ash and Steven who moaned and whined said they didn't deserve to be up!
She conducted herself maturely and well the week she had the power.

Also remember that Chris adores her, said she was amazing and wants to spend time with her. He said last night that he couldn't wait to meet her boyfriend because 'he is a part of Ashleigh that he doesn't know'. Chris is astute and intelligent. Do you really think he would want to spend so much time around a boring, uninteresting young girl all the time even if he did fancy her (which I think is rubbish, by the way).
If you have watched the video's you would see more of Ashleigh having fun and doing other things, which is the same for all the other HM's. The editing of the HL shows have been terrible this year.

So all in all, I really can't see why you write such venom about Ashleigh while finding excuses for Helen. But each to their own. :shrug:

Sleeping Beauty takes a couple of minutes from her eternal BB sleep to ask the mirror who the fairest one of all was. She was no very happy with the answer.

Ashleigh bullied at school, BS my dear. Its a story that's been invented to provide her with reasons for acting like a twat and a bitch. Please post proof of this ridiculous claim.

Regardless of whether she wins or not I think Ashleigh will do well outside the house and she has plenty of options to consider RE what she will want to do next:).

How do you know she was 'bullied' at school

because most people are bullied and once you bullied you hate bullies, i was bullied reason why i hate helen and most people hate helen for bullying

She said so - it's up to you to prove that she wasn't. Unless you can show the proof, it's rather cruel to accuse someone of lying or doubt them about something like that just because you don't like them.

But I'm glad it's the only part of my post that you can find to pick on....:laugh: I'm sure you'll try hard to find something else in it to dispute, but seeing you didn't the first time around, I assume you agree with it all really and it'll just be to save face...:laugh:

You have seen the amount of bullying she gets on this forum, why doubt she was bullied at school?

Poor Ashleigh :hug:

Bullied at school? Yet she has sat there day after day, bitching, moaning, been nasty & spiteful about other Hm's :conf:
She comes across more of a mean girl than a victim imo

Oh, come on, lets have some facts. If people are trying say her behaviour in the house has been affected by bullying, lets se some evidence. I would say there was very little chance of Ashleigh being bullied at school based on what I see of her character now, but that is purely my opinion

why would anyone lie about being bullied? you seem to know alot about ashleigh for someone who claims to 'dislike' her, #obsessed

thats different to bullying :sleep:
everyone bitches mainly teenagers and she is 18 so she still a teenager

Being nasty about the bully Helen you mean?
If a kid at school gets bullied every day and is nasty about the bullies, are you the type to hate on the victim?

We already know the answer to that one Achilles as many people hate Ashleigh for daring to be bitchy about Helen.

If you read my post properly i questioned her been bullied at school because she has been quite nasty in the house to some Hm's.
I dont care if she is a teenager, her bitching has not just been bitching its been nasty & spiteful.

Again, it doesn't matter whether it's unpleasant or not, outside of Steven and Kimberley it's the only thing that BB15 will be remembered for. That's kind of our point.

Did i say that? No.

:joker: Really? That's your answer "How do you know Ashleigh was bullied?"
"Because most people are".

:joker:

Ashleigh isn't a victim and Helen has not bullied her.

steven and kimberly? who are they?

I tend to think she was the one that bullied others,looking at her character now:joker: Shall we claim Helen was bullied,so that accounts for her behaviour?

they make it up as they go along to fit it in with their infatuations:hehe:

well thats utter bull****, ashleigh has never bullied anyone otherwise it would of been said by people. bitching is different to bullying.....