The PM is talking Fantasy
saying he will get the Beheader John
- like he will go in peace with any SAS?
He will blow himself up and the troops trying to get him
to be honest

http://news.sky.com/story/1335672/pm...haines-killers


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New UK Hostage Held By IS Named As Alan Henning

http://news.sky.com/story/1335770/uk...s-alan-henning

But you would have to kill
innocents near them at the same time of the bombs,
that will not work.

Look at Iraq

Maybe why we should not be involved with the Americans, after all it has been their policy of air strikes that caused these executions.

These creatures from IS, shouldn't be taking hostages in the first place,these hostages that have been murdered, it annoys me when they say on the news they have executed them, were taken ages ago,well over a year or more ago, they never had any intention of freeing them no matter what anyone did or didn't do.

This guy murdered today was just an aid worker for goodness sake, how do you have any chance of reasoning with the vile scum that murdered him other than ensuring by whatever means that they cannot murder or even take hostages again.

That's what ISIS and other terrorists don't understand, it means nothing to David Cameron if people are killed.
In fact if he's wanting to go to war then the media attention will get everybody behind it.

We used to say that about the IRA, now they get invites to Buckingham Palace.

Maybe time to talk to IS and recognise them defacto as a legitimate state.

That's what we always end up doing.

But he must take a Parliament Vote on this
again

I don't care what he does as to Parliament,he needs to stop the talking and do something.
Blow a Parliament vote, that should be a given anyway, all he needs to be sure of is support from the Labour party,of course the Lib Dems may drag their heels but he won't need them.
I would like to see Ed Miliband untie the PM's hands as to this Parliament issue before action.
If he knew he had that support, surely he could and would act but get moving as to it.

For once on an issue, he would have my full support to really make things happen as to getting rid of these vile barbarians.
Instead of meeting after meeting,act rather than just talk about it.
Also at those meetings are the same things being gone through again that all the meetings held after the Lee Rigby murder had discussed.

Nothing has really been done since that in the near 18 months since it took place,it is time for this PM to stop procrastinating and show some real statesman courage and leadership,and get everyone he can on board to deal with these creatures.

It is something he should have done last year after Lee's horrific murder on an English street anyway, instead of sitting on his hands with the 'tomorrow is another day' attitude.

Joey
so you want UK Air Bombs
Killing the public as well?
you have now gone Neo Conservative
I am in Shock

I want to see this organisation obliterated ,yes,whatever it may take. I believe some concensus can be found with the majority of Middle East leaders too and it is time, now that British aid workers are being murdered to get a move on as to achieving that aim.

I hate war and conflict but this is something that will actually help the Middle East countries too if this organisation was effectively dealt with.

Enough really is enough.

This whole situation makes me so angry.

No Joey
No way do I agree you Murder innocents
near the Terrorists
that just makes it worse
look at Iraq

You are Crazy

i've seen comments about how we should just 'nuke' them and I personally don't think that's right. So many innocent people would be killed

I think we need to send people in and take them out one by one, or w.e.

No American Public
and the President have said no troops on the ground
Just Air Bombs

dumb idea IMO

I am actually surprised at my own stance at this too,however I was really furious at the murder of Lee Rigby last year and now I am again, both for the American journalists murdered and now this British aid worker with an almost certain one more to follow at least.

How many other innocents like these hostages have to be murdered before govts. of the World see that this organisation is a threat to anyone,anywhere who are not of their thinking.

Innocent unarmed people, just helping or doing their job are being murdered by these creatures now.
My patience for one, and in fact I think possibly across the Country too,has well and truly run out.

They don't show any compassion for the murdered victims families, they strip the victim of their dignity and publicly by making a video showing the murder of same too while hiding behind having their faces masked.
Evil, absolutely evil, as the old quote goes more or less, for evil to thrive the good just have to do nothing.

Which is what we have done since Lee's murder last year, nothing.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014...attack-abroad/

He isn't happy with them

So like when America Carpet Bombed Iraq
you want that?

No, I am not advocating that at all and nowhere have I indicated so although I have said whatever it takes to clear the World of these beings then I would likely support it.

I have said we should be dealing with leaders we maybe would not like to but to whom this organisation is as big a threat to them as to our citizens.

Doing nothing but talking is not the answer, David Cameron should have been agreeing a stance with Ed Miliband after Lee's shocking horrific murder last year.

I will ask this point of you however, while adding that just sometimes desperate situations call for desperate and less than satisfactory solutions.
Do you really think if these creatures came here to any of our cities that they would concern themselves as to how many innocent people or Children would be killed because of their actions to 'make their point'.
I am sure the answer is no to that,it is for me for certain.

It is time for all who are genuinely appalled at this organisation to in any small way or major way take action to help get rid of them.
We have had 3 murders at the hands of these idiots and likely another to follow,all happening while we talk.
The only people who can stop doing this are the ones doing it and they are also the only people we cannot talk to and reason with.

I am really mad that innocent lives are being taken like this,how many more before someone takes the lead and does something with and from whatever leaders and whatever support they can get from them too.

Yes I know
but the only way to ensure you kill all
the terrorists
is by carpet bombing
which then kills innocents with them.

I don't think that needs to be the case if you are working with the Nations where they are and with their support and intelligence services too.

Having said that, what is the answer then, let them continue.
Sadly very bad things have to happen to move forward sometimes.

What you say is right,no doubt as to that.
For me, this organisation has to be got rid of and I could be likely persuaded now as to any measures to do so.

No the nations are not working with America.

Sure down under is

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The CIA has confirmed
its over 30, 000
members of IS
spread across the two nations

The US never carpet bombed Iraq. We always used highly sophisticated targeted bombs and missiles.

In an awful way, (not saying this is a good thing) I'm kind of glad that this is waking up the world to what these people are like. I feel like people underestimated what these terrorists are capable of. Just because there's been no 'attacks' for a couple of years in the UK/USA/R.O.W, doesn't mean that they aren't still at large.

People have been predicting for a long time that they would get strong again if we pulled the troops out too early. Looks like they were right, sadly :/

Good points Ninastar. I too am glad not only other Nations are waking up to this but also the Middle East countries too it seems.
These creatures are in effect the enemy of everyone in my view.

agreed. I wish we could have a huge world meeting and discuss what could be done about these people...

Another British Hostage
sadly now on new video talking.


A new video has been released showing another Briton believed to be held hostage by Islamic State militants.

In the footage, John Cantlie - understood to be a journalist - is sitting behind a desk as he speaks to the camera.

http://news.sky.com/story/1338066/ne...ritish-hostage

[The video marks a significant change of tactics for Isil, which has previously
released footage of hostages being executed in a desert.
In the new video, the hostage appears sitting at a table in a darkened room wearing
orange Guantanamo Bay-style robes and speaks directly to the camera.
The video is shot from several different angles and incorporates Arabic subtitles. ]

I better keep quiet, the level of how annoyed I am at these displays from these vile creatures just gets worse as to this taking of and parading of the hostages they have.

I really don't care now how at all it is done but wiping these things off the face of the earth should be the World's priority.

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This is John Cantlie of the Telegraph paper


http://news.sky.com/story/1338066/ne...ritish-hostage
Video on the above link


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Apparently ISIS are now plotting to assassinate Pope Francis :worry:

Said this earlier myself and I agree. It's a shame it took them kidnapping and killing people from our own countries for the government to truly wake up to these animals. They should have been on the radar when they were doing this to innocent Arabs in their own countries , but it was kind of brushed aside as they were fighting "the good fight" on the whole and rebelling against their leaders.

A few hundred years ago in the Dark & Middle Ages the Catholics were rampaging around Europe killing heretics and witches and people not on side. Many of our stately homes still have "priest holes" and that's from Henry VIII
Its not that long ago since the terrible problems with Protestants and Catholics in Ireland. Please God, that has to be over now - that raged on for centuries too.
Our history is littered with religious war & uprisings.

Obama is crazy for wanting to arm and train 'moderate' Syrian rebels thinking they can fight both Isis and Assad. At the start of the uprising there may have been moderate groups establishing a decent foothold but now they're barely on the map, they were swallowed up by the Islamist groups long ago. Those that remain don't have the means to effect anything really and arming them just runs the risk of those arms falling into the hands of Isis. Training them in Saudi Arabia is dangerous as well considering that the Saudi state is founded on beliefs a lot closer to Isis than those of the US. There was some truth in the letter that the Syrian government sent to the US earlier this week:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...b-9737292.html