I hate to say it/think it but I think you're right.

I hope that kids parents aren't reading any of this online stuff, they must be devastated enough as it is :(

People still thinking police men want to kill children

Disgusting

Shame on them

Let's just say playing with guns at such an early age... Hmmmmn !!! Balance of probabilities suggest that sort of person might just grow up with firearms and learn to use them on a casual basis.

You are right I'm no mind reader but I respectively suggest the writing is on the wall.

Nothing of interest here.




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A poster has mentioned in this thread that in other areas of the USa kids as young as 8 are shooting weapons encouraged by their parents. There was case just a few months ago of the sweet 9 year old girl shooting at a range who accidentally shot and killed her instructor. Do you think that sweet nine year old is gonna grow up to be violent too.?

I'm sure they don't but it seems that they're racially profiling and not being trained properly in dealing with situations like this.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...evastated.html

Here it is.

Look at the sweet kid in her pink shorts. So surrounded by all theses gun at such an early age this girls gonna be a serial killer in a few years?

imo it sounds like a normal 12 year old boy thing to be interested in "guns" and playing like that, as I said earlier in the thread my own 10 year old son is always running around with toy guns pretending to shoot at people and cars etc

Guns are dangerous in the hands of anyone who is not trained in how to use firearms. Not sayin everyone who handles guns at an early age becomes a gun toting psychopath but if you did turn bad guns would probably figure in your plans.




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You haven't explained how the world is a safer place now this 12 year old is dead but this cute little girl in her pink shorts has actually killed someone. Surely the world would be a better place with out her too?

http://i1298.photobucket.com/albums/...psebad2b76.jpg

If a 15 year old boy in the UK can calmly stab a teacher to death with people watching, there's not telling what a 12 year old boy with a gun could do.

(Yes, I'm aware it was fake, but the police and public did not know that)

Shame on them eh? But nothing about the cops who thought a child was about to murder them and BTW there have been very very few instances, all over the world, of 12 year olds murdering policemen. If this kid had been for real then he would have been the first I've heard of but if you know of 12 year olds murdering police then tell us all about them. These cops are the ones who should be ashamed.

If it's all about white racism and white superiority, why don't we see little ASIAN children being shot all the time? funny how the asian community has managed to make themselves immune to this evil white man's evil. how do you figure that happened...?

funny how the asian community, like other immigrant communities before them have managed to fit in, and raise successful children, and not just wallow in self pity like some other communities...

Indians, japanese, chinese all seem to be doing okay. gays and women who have been even been more discriminated against than blacks, hell gays still doesn't even have equal rights yet, but for some reason blacks are always the victims... i wonder why.

Every criminal i've ever met likes to paint himself as a victim.

Have you been in toys are us lately?... the shelves are full of toy guns. Lads for generations have played 'cowboys and indians', had futuristic lazor guns, played with water pistols.
It's entirely normal, more so in America than anywhere, but you are right...nothing of interest in prejudiced opinion.

Not sure how you think my opinion is prejudiced, but I agree toy shops are full of toy guns, unfortunately the U.S is awash with real guns and real bullets that actually will kill people.

The gun issue in the US is the real issue here the issue behind all these so called race killings. The fact is the police in the US will pretty much always shoot first and ask questions later exactly because the suspect anybody and everybody could have a concealed firearm.

And this includes young people , old people, black people and white people.

I don't think it's a racist thing with the police more of a survivalist thing.

The real problem is the sheer number of firearms in the US and the ridiculous ease with which people can get access to these dangerous weapons.




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[QUOTE=Nedusa;7390966]Guns are dangerous in the hands of anyone who is not trained in how to use firearms. Not sayin everyone who handles guns at an early age becomes a gun toting psychopath but if you did turn bad guns would probably figure in your plans.

I love your posts Nedusa and usually agree with you, but I think you're wrong here.

All this incident would suggest is; that with rogue cops, guns are sometimes also lethally dangerous in the hands of even those who are trained in how to use firearms.

With these deviants, the cop badge, far from being a 'Medal of Honour', is just a 'licence to kill'.

[QUOTE=Nedusa;7391181]Not sure how you think my opinion is prejudiced, but I agree toy shops are full of toy guns, unfortunately the U.S is awash with real guns and real bullets that actually will kill people.

The gun issue in the US is the real issue here the issue behind all these so called race killings.

Absolutely agree.

The fact is the police in the US will pretty much always shoot first and ask questions later exactly because the suspect anybody and everybody could have a concealed firearm.

This maybe a fact but that does not make it an acceptable practice by public guardians who have sworn to 'serve and protect'. There is a Criminal Justice System in place and a policy called due process of law.

And this includes young people , old people, black people and white people.
I don't think it's a racist thing with the police more of a survivalist thing.

I am not proposing that 'racism' is institutionally rooted in the police service in America, but the evidence that individual officers or even groups of officers are racist, is overwhelming. Racism of any description is unacceptable, but when it comes to anyone in a position of authority, then such people should be paragons and any racism in such people should be rooted out and the racists given long term jail sentences.

The real problem is the sheer number of firearms in the US and the ridiculous ease with which people can get access to these dangerous weapons.


I wholeheartedly agree Nedusa. 1,000%.

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/...d-460x276.jpeg
This looked real although as toy

Police told him to drop it


He did not.



In this Case the Police were just doing their job

My son has guns that look like that :shrug: I can't believe there was no other alternative then to shoot this child dead

You have a choice drop you gun
or be shot

That child did the wrong thing , sadly


Its USA Normal Police work

But he's a child, maybe he panicked? The Police should be trained better to deal with this sort of thing.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/n...-boy/19471925/

this is the call

The caller didn't sound overly concerned or scared though tbf and again, i know I keep repeating myself but a 12 year old playing with a toy gun like that caller described sounds about normal for a kid his age :shrug:

At no time did anyone say he was 12. It was a man and then perhaps a juvenile the caller said.

At no time did the caller (who called the cops mind) say - oh its just kids playing.

This was a gun that looked like a real firearm and not a toy

I've seen the picture of the boy, he looks really young, that article also states that he never pointed the gun at the officers, poor kid was probably trying to show them it wasn't a real gun.

You saw probably an old pic of the boy, he may have looked different to the cops. When the cops shouted down he made a move for the gun, cops do not wait until the gun is pointing at them otherwise they would be not many cops left

Well, if cops in America have a shoot to kill policy on any person carrying a gun that looks remotely like a real gun no matter what their age then maybe they should ban fake guns in America cos that is crazy.

And how do you know that picture is old, wow I don't know why you can't even entertain the possibility that the police might have made a bad call here and as a result a child is dead

:facepalm:

There are always so many assumptions in your posts. Why dont you stick to what we know rather than telling us what you probably think may have happened.

It was not a toy gun it was a replica, that means unless you hold it and analyse it it looks real.

The cop thought it was real and thought he was about to be shot. End of story.


Dont play with replica guns in public places in America

Thought he was about to be shot by a child? Thats some fine police work.

a youth and you dont die any different depending on who shot you

Did you know the colour of the officer who shot the boy?

Not even a teenager. Thats some threat.

Why is that relevant?

Jeff Follmer, president of the Cleveland Police Patrolmen's Association, said the officers were not told the caller thought the gun might be fake.

But it was clearly stated in the call that the gun might be a fake. That sounds like incompetence to me but no doubt that is justification to you.

http://www.ask.com/health/average-he...0d104f73bb0c07

According to Ask.com the average height for a 12 year old boy is 58-62 inches. Barely five foot. The officer must have been ****ting himself.

EDIT - and at that age girls are usually taller than boys./ Would he have been scared if it was girl? Its an absolute joke to say that officer was scared.

Yes he must have been, the kid had a gun, that the officer thought was real.. it's not the boy that was dangerous, but add the gun into the mix, then he is dangerous.

Rationalising the murder of a child? Some people have no shame.

At that age girls are usually taller than boys. Would he have been scared if it was girl? Its an absolute joke to say that officer was scared.