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wendywillow 15-01-2015 09:52 PM

oh jeez, now alex? this might hurt his chances


:facepalm:


talk about out of touch

sassysocks 15-01-2015 09:56 PM

Pretty fed up with all these people trying so hard to be oh so politically correct constantly trying to tell everyone else how to think and what they can and can't say.

Alexander stated an honest and personal opinion, whether you agree or not - deal with it.

Jose Mourinho 15-01-2015 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 7488902)
I understand tabloids deal in simple issues but i cannot debate with one of thier readers who condones their racist, sexist and homophobic outpourings

Bye

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! All I said was I read them, never once did I say I believe what I read or agree with it.. Funny how you lack so much intelligence that you think you can come to a conclusion about someone BASED ON such little information. Your stupidity yet again exposed.

So there we have it people .. yet again it appears Leather Trumpet (UKIP SUPPORTER AND NIGEL FARAGE FAN) comes to radical conclusions based on little, if any information much in the same way he comes to form radical conclusions about people with only the knowledge of what colour their skin is, or which country they are from.. Hilarious.

Jose Mourinho 15-01-2015 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by sassysocks (Post 7488940)
Pretty fed up with all these people trying so hard to be oh so politically correct constantly trying to tell everyone else how to think and what they can and can't say.

Alexander stated an honest and personal opinion, whether you agree or not - deal with it.

It's an honest and personal opinion for sure..and here is my honest and personal opinion. He is racist. Thanks.

abhorson 15-01-2015 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by The Penguin (Post 7488056)
A lot white Americans probably think "I'm glad there are no blacks in this neighbourhood" when they move into a new house.

Black crime is a major burden on American society. Go to any youtube video about Trayvon Martin or Michael Brown and see how many people think justice was done.


Told you. I see what you are trying to do. Save it for a different site.

The Penguin 15-01-2015 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by abhorson (Post 7488978)
Told you. I see what you are trying to do. Save it for a different site.

Nope. Race was brought into CBB by the person who complained about Ken's use of language and then said something much worse about a race of people.

The Penguin 15-01-2015 10:14 PM

I think that if Alexander O Neal wants something to disapprove of he needs to look at his own race who make up 12% of the population of America yet around 50% of the perpetrators of murders, robberies, rapes. That's certainly something to disapprove of.

abhorson 15-01-2015 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Jose Mourinho (Post 7488961)
It's an honest and personal opinion for sure..and here is my honest and personal opinion. He is racist. Thanks.

And i could say the same to you because Alexander is black. Don't you see the irony?

He has his views because many thousands of his countrymen were killed in horrific ways in recent years mainly by fanatics whom support a certain religion. And that is human nature. We all know it is mad bastards that do these crimes.

Are you a racist?

Jose Mourinho 15-01-2015 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by abhorson (Post 7489027)
And i could say the same to you because Alexander is black. Don't you see the irony?

He has his views because many thousands of his countrymen were killed in horrific ways in recent years mainly by fanatics whom support a certain religion. And that is human nature. We all know it is mad bastards that do these crimes.

Are you a racist?

No you can't say the same thing to me I never mentioned anything about his race. Not defending what a small minority have done, but that does not mean it's ok for him to BLAME every Arab.

abhorson 15-01-2015 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by The Penguin (Post 7489002)
Nope. Race was brought into CBB by the person who complained about Ken's use of language and then said something much worse about a race of people.


And you over the last few hours have said the word black on multiple occasions to make some weird point about the USA and the UK.

What exactly is your point?

The Penguin 15-01-2015 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by abhorson (Post 7489027)
And i could say the same to you because Alexander is black. Don't you see the irony?

He has his views because many thousands of his countrymen were killed in horrific ways in recent years mainly by fanatics whom support a certain religion. And that is human nature. We all know it is mad bastards that do these crimes.

Are you a racist?

Most arabs in America are actually Lebanese Christians and many are atheists and agnostic. He never said muslims. I doubt he dislikes Muhammad Ali. Read his full comment. He was clearly talking about a domestic issue of tension between arab store owners and blacks.
Did you actually read the whole thing of what he said?

abhorson 15-01-2015 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Jose Mourinho (Post 7489041)
No you can't say the same thing to me I never mentioned anything about his race. Not defending what a small minority have done, but that does not mean it's ok for him to BLAME every Arab.

Fair enough. but that does not make Alexander racist. Scared maybe. I am sure he knows it is only nutters that are terrorists or those that believe that a religion should not be open to satire.

sassysocks 15-01-2015 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Jose Mourinho (Post 7488961)
It's an honest and personal opinion for sure..and here is my honest and personal opinion. He is racist. Thanks.

Or maybe he simply doesn't like Arabs. His right.

If he said he didn't like the French or the Italians would he also be called racist?

abhorson 15-01-2015 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by The Penguin (Post 7489054)
Most arabs in America are actually Lebanese Christians and many are atheists and agnostic. He never said muslims. I doubt he dislikes Muhammad Ali. Read his full comment. He was clearly talking about a domestic issue of tension between arab store owners and blacks.
Did you actually read the whole thing of what he said?

You are putting your opinions across for goodness sake.

Ali could be his idol. Please stop this nonsense.

abhorson 15-01-2015 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Jose Mourinho (Post 7489041)
No you can't say the same thing to me I never mentioned anything about his race. Not defending what a small minority have done, but that does not mean it's ok for him to BLAME every Arab.

America is not a race. Alexander is an American.

Jose Mourinho 15-01-2015 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by abhorson (Post 7489072)
America is not a race. Alexander is an American.

Duh! did you even read what I was replying to?

The Penguin 15-01-2015 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by abhorson (Post 7489062)
You are putting your opinions across for goodness sake.

Ali could be his idol. Please stop this nonsense.

I'm reading what he actually said. He never said anything about muslims so why are you keep making it about that? He was talking specifically about his experiences with arabs in America, most of whom are not muslims.

You're the one spouting nonsense. You didn't even read his actual comments.

Jose Mourinho 15-01-2015 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by sassysocks (Post 7489060)
Or maybe he simply doesn't like Arabs. His right.

If he said he didn't like the French or the Italians would he also be called racist?

French and Italian is not a race.

The Penguin 15-01-2015 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by sassysocks (Post 7489060)
Or maybe he simply doesn't like Arabs. His right.

If he said he didn't like the French or the Italians would he also be called racist?

And what if someone didn't like blacks and said it before going into the house. Would that be their right?
Why was Ken evicted?

Jose Mourinho 15-01-2015 10:32 PM

I am not even sure half those shop workers he was describing are even Arab.

abhorson 15-01-2015 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Jose Mourinho (Post 7489085)
Duh! did you even read what I was replying to?

Yes and you assume that scared people whether right or wrong associate all that they are scared about as a racist.

To me that is a sad thing. And all too simplistic. And one that i will have no truck with.

Jose Mourinho 15-01-2015 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by abhorson (Post 7489104)
Yes and you assume that scared people whether right or wrong associate all that they are scared about as a racist.

To me that is a sad thing. And all too simplistic. And one that i will have no truck with.

Alexander is a race.. he is black but yes, also American, so you sir are wrong. And don't try to make me out to be someone who jumps at the slightest things with regards to culture and race, we have been discussing some BIG incidents here.

abhorson 15-01-2015 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Jose Mourinho (Post 7489109)
Alexander is a race.. he is black but yes, also American, so you sir are wrong.

Alexander is a name!

Jose Mourinho 15-01-2015 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by abhorson (Post 7489112)
Alexander is a name!

Ofc course it is but I thought we were discussing the person Alexnder O neal.. Do I seriously have to spell that out to you? Or you just here to chat rubbish?

abhorson 15-01-2015 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Jose Mourinho (Post 7489117)
Ofc course it is but I thought we were discussing the person Alexnder O neal.. Do I seriously have to spell that out to you? Or you just here to chat rubbish?

I will leave that to you Sir.

Jose Mourinho 15-01-2015 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by abhorson (Post 7489123)
I will leave that to you Sir.

Your probably better at it than me judging by your last few posts but ok.

The Penguin 15-01-2015 10:39 PM

Abhorson just latched into Alexanders comments and assumed without actually reading what he said that he was referring to muslim terrorists. He never said the word "muslim" or mentioned terrorism once. He only referred to arabs. In America most arabs are Christians.
He was clearly talking about arab storeowners where he grew up and his experiences with them.

Jose Mourinho 15-01-2015 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by The Penguin (Post 7489125)
Abhorson just latched into Alexanders comments and assumed without actually reading what he said that he was referring to muslim terrorists. He never said the word "muslim" or mentioned terrorism once. He only referred to arabs. In America most arabs are Christians.
He was clearly talking about arab storeowners where he grew up and his experiences with them.

Like most shallow minded people unfortunately he avoids the detail and goes with the most simple information to form opinions :)

abhorson 15-01-2015 10:42 PM

Just like BB, you decide!

The Penguin 15-01-2015 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Jose Mourinho (Post 7489129)
Like most shallow minded people unfortunately he avoids the detail and goes with the most simple information to form opinions :)

Yes I know and he was claiming I was somehow "making assumptions" by referring to what Alexander actually said.
He was the one making massive assumptions.

Jose Mourinho 15-01-2015 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by The Penguin (Post 7489139)
Yes I know and he was claiming I was somehow "making assumptions" by referring to what Alexander actually said.
He was the one making massive assumptions.

lol he did that to me too or tried. You see some people come to this forum and discuss things with passion because they believe in what they write about, some come here to argue for the sake of it and will drivel on and avoid the reality in order to try to win an argument. He forms part of the latter. And there are many of those, I wish TIBB could design a programme to auto ignore these fools.

Mystic Mock 15-01-2015 10:50 PM

Alexander and Ken giving older men a bad name with these types of comments.

Jules2 15-01-2015 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by SoBig (Post 7488442)
Are you kidding me? You don't think opening up a girl's robe to expose her breasts is wrong? He should be charged with sexual assault.

So much has happened in past BBs I think last year it would have just been smacked wrists. New grounds now, I felt really sorry for him tbh. He slipped up in his drunken stupour. It could have all been handled differently.

Mystic Mock 15-01-2015 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by The Penguin (Post 7487835)
Given that black on black violence is at epidemic proportions both in America and the UK I think he really should really have feared another black person in the house.

Do black people get jealous of each other like women then?:evilgrin:

sassysocks 15-01-2015 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Jules2 (Post 7489163)
So much has happened in past BBs I think last year it would have just been smacked wrists. New grounds now, I felt really sorry for him tbh. He slipped up in his drunken stupour. It could have all been handled differently.

BB have become hysterical this year. Total hypocrites - they whip everyone up into a frenzy with all the freaks they put in there aimed at causing friction constanly manipulating everyone into fights - then censor any free speech from the stressed, hyped-up hms.

They chuck out two hms for very little, despite all the hype, then sit back and allow some hms to insult and bully others at will. The show is a joke.

So a drunken tug at a dressing-gown, some unpopular and politically incorrect comments from an older man are unacceptable but bullying, name-calling and ganging-up on other hms is okay. Only in BBs twisted, hypocritical world.

The Penguin 15-01-2015 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by The Mockinator (Post 7489183)
Do black people get jealous of each other like women then?:evilgrin:

A lot of the black on black violence is turf wars between gangs so in a way it's jealousy.
Most black people aren't involved in any crime but it's a major problem which black people are in denial about. They prefer to focus on the rare occasion when a cop kills an unarmed black boy.

The Penguin 15-01-2015 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by The Mockinator (Post 7489158)
Alexander and Ken giving older men a bad name with these types of comments.

Ken's comments were nothing compared to Alexander's.

Jules2 15-01-2015 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by The Mockinator (Post 7489158)
Alexander and Ken giving older men a bad name with these types of comments.

Everything in life depends on the reason behind the deed. Ken wasnt being viscious to Alex, Alex just pointed out to him that in the company of some black people he wouldnt have gotten away with it. The other so called slight was once again generalising on a conversation.
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Generalising:-
Neither Ken nor Alex will suffer tbh as they are of the age where they have made their way in life. Whilst some of the public will criticise the other half will praise. This is life. Each one knows what is in their hearts. Each have their own fanbase. I do feel though that Ken may be annoyed, Alex will just carry on.

We all have our phobias, likes and dislikes, we all discuss our thoughts but naturally it doesnt go to press :cheer2:

I hope that Alex gets to the final as I would like to hear more of his singing and, I just like him......

Jules2 15-01-2015 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by The Penguin (Post 7489002)
Nope. Race was brought into CBB by the person who complained about Ken's use of language and then said something much worse about a race of people.

The thing is though Alex didnt complain as such, he advised Ken that should he use the word to another black man he may be in trouble. Ken then went on to say about the children, once again Alex told him that that would also be taken the wrong way in this day and age. So far as we know Alex didnt go around talking about it, he was just being a friend to Ken.

I can remember episodes in the past when so much has been made of the same thing plus obesity, all sorts, just for camera attention. Chloe had her pennysworth with Jeremy, such a fuss was made. Nadia and Perez went to the diaryroom and threatened that they would walk out if Ken wasnt removed.....Imo Nadia made things a thousand times worse.

abhorson 15-01-2015 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by The Penguin (Post 7489216)
A lot of the black on black violence is turf wars between gangs so in a way it's jealousy.
Most black people aren't involved in any crime but it's a major problem which black people are in denial about. They prefer to focus on the rare occasion when a cop kills an unarmed black boy.


Do you still not see what you are saying!

But i love freedom of speech, so can take it.


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