My point was more, some rulebreaks while technically the same thing, are worse than others :S Some insults are worse, especially personal ones. etc

I get the point you're making but I think that in cases like that, other infractionable offences are made so extra points are added, so one could be "insult" and another would be "offensive language" both worth one point whereas the other person would just get one point for the insult

If you get it, I didn't explain it very well

Yeah I get it

I do think a change to the system is long overdue tbh

But no matter what we do, lets be honest, there will still be a select few (usually those who are banned most often) who feel its all so unfair :laugh:

It's probably for the best that all infractions are anonymous given the propensity people have for taking things outside the forum.

Yeah, people will complain regardless of the situation, but I think with some of the stuff that's been mentioned, it'll be a lot clearer, a lot fairer and a lot harder to contest

You answered your own question about the TiBB Staff account, members have no need to know who infracted them, they do use it against mods, infact there is times when someone receives an infraction and starts accusing a mod of having a vendetta against them when a lot of the times it isn't even the mod they accuse that's infracted them :laugh:

As to the 'joke' comments, it doesn't matter how much you claim something you have posted was a joke or for a laugh and so on, if the person the comment is directed at finds it offensive then it's not a joke at all.

James, myself and Vicky receive the messages that are sent to TiBB Staff and as has already been posted if it's a genuine query we do post it in the mod section and discuss it or sometimes I pm the person in reply to explain the infraction etc, some can confirm this I'm sure..

Lastly, we do we admit when we are wrong, we reverse infractions and sometimes even bans more than you would think. Every single infraction and even warning that's given out generates it's own discussion thread in a reports section, if we see an infraction that we find to be a bit harsh then we say it and discuss what we think would have been more fitting, or sometimes we reverse the infractions again I'm sure some members that has had infractions reversed can confirm this.You also have to remember that we don't just go into a thread, or see a report and immediately go and hand out an infraction for what was reported, we have to read back and see how things started, check if the reported comment was in reply to a baiting comment and so on.

Omg this, I remember one time I posted a pic of a black lady and the reason for the infraction was "Don't push it" :joker:

EDIT: Oop it expires tomorrow, then I'll be infraction-free. Bad guy gone good era?

Yes,I can confirm this, had a least one overturned,maybe more.

You replied with a photo of a black woman to a post of josys that said



Surely it was self explanatory?

(proof above that every infraction has its own thread actually, as I couldn't have remembered that :laugh: )

Also most of them that say that are self explanatory. Just I used yours as an example :p

Like, why put 'baiting' or something when you are obviously going to know what you did wrong anyway?

Every infraction has its own thread? :umm2:

A) This is not a gif http://i.imgur.com/jiCG31T.png
B) It wasn't nasty, rude or spamming just by posting that picture. If anything it was in a jokey way (another good example of blurred lines between jokes and people taking offense)
C) "Don't push it" really isn't professional (which is the point Smithy was raising)

Idrc about infractions or how they're dealt with anymore, since my last one expires tomorrow :laugh: I just came in here to agree with a post I agreed with.

I don't want to cause trouble so I'll leave the thread.

Yup...as does every report. So when y'all revenge report people or just report silly little things because you dont like the poster, our 'new posts' gets spammed a lot :bored:

Sorry, I only used yours as an example as thats the one I saw and it was easy to find as it was your last one :laugh:

I just think it reflects better on the moderating team than a "no" which just isn't that professional

I am here for both of these, I think they could both work pretty well tbh.

:joker: Oh my god.

It's a wonder there's enough room to store all the sh*t on this site.

I agree that the infraction system can be messy but to be honest there is never going to be a 'set' system that can work, especially on here, there still is set points but I personally tend to go by what infractions a member has had in the past, if you for example had 10 infractions for insulting others then I would be more inclined to give you higher points for an insult than I would for someone that had 1 infraction in the past for insults...

Theres so many members with different points and infraction reasons that to treat every single rule break for each member the same way would be extremely unfair.

If 2 people are infracted at the same time and one is pushed into a ban then all I can say is that it's entirely their own fault, they must have broken more rules in the past to have high enough points to be pushed into a ban.

The straight ban thing, it can be extremely frustrating if arguing continues when we have already given out infractions to some of the members involved and maybe already posted a warning in the thread, arguing doesn't just affect the members involved it is also unfair on members that just want to reply to the thread topic to have to keep scrolling through drama, so a straight ban is the next thing.

Wait, are we not allowed to swear?! D:

or is swearing with the filter on okay? like with the ***'s

So basically we get treated for our past criminal record? D:

What happened to rehabilitation?

jay what are you reading about swearing?

I am going for a bath but i will reply when i get out Josy :flutter:

That's a good question Marsh... when will you be rehabilitated? We are all waiting :laugh:

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oh ****

:fist:

It's if you break the filter.

But I've seen mods do that so I don't think they treat that rule as strict as the others.

But how is saying **** breaking the filter? :worry:

True. :think: You've spotted an error in Vicky's logic again.

SackVicky

Its not :laugh:

If you purposely miss out letters (much like I did in my sweary post example) then its purposely avoiding the swear filter that James saw fit to install.

My views on the filter are pretty well known, but I respect that James thinks it helps keep the forum a nicer place :tongue:

Now Vicky's disagreeing with the boss.

SackVicky.

Oh thank god :joker:

Since we're giving ideas and stuff, could we maybe not have it so you could turn on/off the swear filter yourself? Because I think people would be able to judge if they would be happy seeing swear words or not..

An old forum I went on, made for teenagers, they even had it :think:

We should just ban Marsh

:shocked:

This has been asked before and apparently an optional filter is incompatible with the forum. Because the filter is applied when the post is made, rather than its being read...or something like that

Josy bringing possibly the best idea to this thread? :clap1:

Ohh, that's quite annoying :worry:

No he is OK

Oh dear. Sarcasm Arista. Sarcasm.