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Kizzy 27-10-2015 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 8249336)
No, I questioned his opinion, hence the reason I quoted him.

Well now you have mine... lucky old you.

Jordan. 27-10-2015 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Jordan. (Post 8249325)
Why was that relevant?

.

Marsh. 27-10-2015 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 8249339)
Well now you have mine... lucky old you.

Yes, I have your answer on how Dezzy came to his own opinion. How relevant.

Kizzy 27-10-2015 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 8249338)
The police officer's white, what's your point? :conf:

I made my point on page 1, try to be more observant Marsh.

Kizzy 27-10-2015 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 8249342)
Yes, I have your answer on how Dezzy came to his own opinion. How relevant.

You're welcome.

Marsh. 27-10-2015 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 8249343)
I made my point on page 1, try to be more observant Marsh.

But you just denied mentioning race had anything to do with it? :joker:

Kizzy 27-10-2015 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 8249346)
But you just denied mentioning race had anything to do with it? :joker:

Nope I didn't mention racism, I simply stated the child was black.
Your supposition led you to that conclusion not me.

Marsh. 27-10-2015 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 8249349)
Nope I didn't mention racism, I simply stated the child was black.
Your supposition led you to that conclusion not me.

No. This pretty plain statement did that....

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 8249150)
So by some fuzzy logic Black students should be assumed to have done something to warrant being abused?

This post suggests the incident occurred because the girl was black and because she's black she was assumed to have done wrong.

Even though it appears every other student in the class was also black but not involved.

Kizzy 27-10-2015 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 8249350)
No. This pretty plain statement did that....



This post suggests the incident occurred because the girl was black and because she's black she was assumed to have done wrong.

Even though it appears every other student in the class was also black but not involved.

Where did I use the term racism?..... Once again you are seeing things that are not there.

Jordan. 27-10-2015 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 8249350)
No. This pretty plain statement did that....



This post suggests the incident occurred because the girl was black and because she's black she was assumed to have done wrong.

Even though it appears every other student in the class was also black but not involved.

It's like banging your head against that YELLOW wall in the classroom

Marsh. 27-10-2015 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 8249353)
Where did I use the term racism?..... Once again you are seeing things that are not there.

You don't need to use the word racism. :umm2:

You insinuated that the girl was assumed to have done wrong because of her skin colour. That is an example of racism whether you explicitly use the term or not.

Kizzy 27-10-2015 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 8249356)
You don't need to use the word racism. :umm2:

You insinuated that the girl was assumed to have done wrong because of her skin colour. That is an example of racism whether you explicitly use the term or not.

You sure like to read things into situations don't you?
When you've quite finished making up what I said, and telling me what you think I said let me know.

Marsh. 27-10-2015 12:44 AM

:joker:

So targeting someone based on their skin colour is NOT RACISM.

Moving on.

Jordan. 27-10-2015 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 8249357)
You sure like to read things into situations don't you?
When you've quite finished making up what I said, and telling me what you think I said let me know.

Why don't you explain what you really meant then? I've already asked twice why it was relevant to bring up skin colour if you don't believe it was a race issue and you haven't said anything :worry:

Kizzy 27-10-2015 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 8249358)
:joker:

So targeting someone based on their skin colour is NOT RACISM.

Moving on.

Have you noticed me saying this is racism in the thread yet, no?

Then yes let's move on.

Marsh. 27-10-2015 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 8249361)
Have you noticed me saying this is racism in the thread yet, no?

Yes, then three pages later you backtracked.

Never mind.

Kizzy 27-10-2015 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Jordan. (Post 8249360)
Why don't you explain what you really meant then? I've already asked twice why it was relevant to bring up skin colour if you don't believe it was a race issue and you haven't said anything :worry:

Don't worry about it, I think the thread has been derailed enough tonight without dissecting my posts.

Kizzy 27-10-2015 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 8249362)
Yes, then three pages later you backtracked.

Never mind.

Maybe you saw it during the footage of the 30 mins prior to the assault on the black student?

Marsh. 27-10-2015 12:54 AM

Are you going to share this mysterious opinion you've been building up for three pages or continue derailing the thread with veiled patronising statements Kizzy?

Kizzy 27-10-2015 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 8249365)
Are you going to share this mysterious opinion you've been building up for three pages or continue derailing the thread with veiled patronising statements Kizzy?

It's rather insulting to constantly have words put in your mouth to be honest.
I don't have to explain my posts they are here to be read.

Marsh. 27-10-2015 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 8249367)
It's rather insulting to constantly have words put in your mouth to be honest.
I don't have to explain my posts they are here to be read.

Well when you continue to reply telling us how we've misinterpreted your opinion, try actually putting one across.

I have read and responded to your posts. If you don't want to explain them no one's forcing you back into the thread.

Jordan. 27-10-2015 01:00 AM

If you're not willing to explain your posts you probably shouldn't take issue with people misinterpretating them

Kizzy 27-10-2015 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 8249368)
Well when you continue to reply telling us how we've misinterpreted your opinion, try actually putting one across.

I have read and responded to your posts. If you don't want to explain them no one's forcing you back into the thread.

We... what is this a tag team?
I made my view clear, your skewed perception of what I post isn't my issue.
I have nothing to explain, and I hope that is clarified.

Marsh. 27-10-2015 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 8249370)
We... what is this a tag team?
I made my view clear, your skewed perception of what I post isn't my issue.
I have nothing to explain, and I hope that is clarified.

Tag team? :conf:

My "skewed perception" isn't your issue? So, why has 80% of your posts in this thread been about how I've misinterpreted your post? :conf:

If you're going to keep popping in to tell people how wrong they are, without actually contributing anything then what's the point?

Kizzy 27-10-2015 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 8249371)
Tag team? :conf:

My "skewed perception" isn't your issue? So, why has 80% of your posts in this thread been about how I've misinterpreted your post? :cons:

If you're going to keep popping in to tell people how wrong they are, without actually contributing anything then what's the point?

I don't 'pop' anywhere, you're taking exception to my reasoning in this thread and constantly commenting for some reason.
You will have to remain confused and whatever the other smiley thing is... With any luck the ridiculous badgering will end as it's gotten very boring and has ruined yet another thread.

Marsh. 27-10-2015 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 8249372)
I don't 'pop' anywhere, you're taking exception to my reasoning in this thread and constantly commenting for some reason.
You will have to remain confused and whatever the other smiley thing is... With any luck the ridiculous badgering will end as it's gotten very boring and has ruined yet another thread.

Yet it began with you quoting what I was posting.

So, if you don't like it why continue to question me?

But by all means sit on your high horse (along with your smiley mention) and look down on us lessors who aren't quite evolved enough to psychically channel your opinion across the internet.

Ammi 27-10-2015 06:21 AM

...wow, that was some excessive use of force, regardless of what led up to it ..I would like to see comments from staff etc present as well though and not just students ...I wonder if she had posed a physical threat to her class in what had occurred just beforehand...

Ammi 27-10-2015 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 8249264)
It doesn't really matter, the situation obviously didn't escalate to such a point where violence would be needed previously otherwise she'd have been taken down and removed when it escalated not after it had settled down to a point when she was calmly sitting at her desk.

The cop obviously didn't stick to procedure, throwing someone down to the floor using their desk and them dragging them around is not how you arrest someone who isn't offering physical resistance.

...hmmmm, thing is though Dezzy, we don't know what procedure is in American schools and with regards to weapons/firearms and recent killings in schools and colleges there...we're allowed to physically remove someone from a classroom if they are perceived a physical danger to either themselves or to others around them and although she wasn't in the video and just sat at her desk, she could have been just previously to that..or she could have a history of anger/aggression etc and security had been called ...yeah, it does here seem extremely excessive I agree and I'm not condoning it at all, but I think it's very easy for a few seconds of seeing it, to take the whole situation out of it's context as well..and the 'time lapse' could have been the time it took for security to reach the class when called/difficult on to call really without knowing it all...

arista 27-10-2015 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 8249436)
...wow, that was some excessive use of force, regardless of what led up to it ..I would like to see comments from staff etc present as well though and not just students ...I wonder if she had posed a physical threat to her class in what had occurred just beforehand...


Yes she will behave now.

arista 27-10-2015 06:43 AM

Debated on SkyNewsHD
Paper Review.

They Concluded they need Context.


The Teacher was not involved.

Ammi 27-10-2015 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by arista (Post 8249448)
Debated on SkyNewsHD
Paper Review.

They Concluded they need Context.


The Teacher was not involved.

..indeed..

jennyjuniper 27-10-2015 07:34 AM

Why were the police called to start with? Why was she asked to leave? Until I see or hear all the facts I can't make up my mind whether the police officer was in the wrong or not.

bots 27-10-2015 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by jennyjuniper (Post 8249477)
Why were the police called to start with? Why was she asked to leave? Until I see or hear all the facts I can't make up my mind whether the police officer was in the wrong or not.

yep, no-one can judge anything from a 30 second clip, for all we know the girl could have stabbed someone seconds before the video was shot making the response perfectly valid.

arista 27-10-2015 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by jennyjuniper (Post 8249477)
Why were the police called to start with? Why was she asked to leave? Until I see or hear all the facts I can't make up my mind whether the police officer was in the wrong or not.

Its A Security School Officer
who works at that school.

Marsh. 27-10-2015 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 8249436)
...wow, that was some excessive use of force, regardless of what led up to it ..I would like to see comments from staff etc present as well though and not just students ...I wonder if she had posed a physical threat to her class in what had occurred just beforehand...

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Originally Posted by arista (Post 8249448)
Debated on SkyNewsHD
Paper Review.

They Concluded they need Context.


The Teacher was not involved.

:clap2:

AnnieK 27-10-2015 08:14 AM

The thing that confuses me with this is that not one other student jumped to her defence or reacted at all.....surely if it was completely unjust and unwarranted the others wouldn't have sat by? I know I couldn't have done :shrug: Having said that it look excessive but doesn't quite add up to me.

Kizzy 27-10-2015 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 8249373)
Yet it began with you quoting what I was posting.

So, if you don't like it why continue to question me?

But by all means sit on your high horse (along with your smiley mention) and look down on us lessors who aren't quite evolved enough to psychically channel your opinion across the internet.

I posted comment on the forum is all, I didn't invite an interrogation.

I'm not a psychic but I predict this officer has some questions to face over his conduct.

By giving my opinion that is not being on a high horse or looking down on anyone.

Niamh. 27-10-2015 10:32 AM

Can we stick to discussing the thread topic and not eachother please?

Will. 27-10-2015 10:34 AM

I found it really uncomfortable to watch, and there aren't many things I find uncomfortable to watch.

Poor girl.

Kizzy 27-10-2015 10:42 AM

This site has a vid with a student interview, it was seemingly over a mobile phone.

http://www.wltx.com/story/news/local...dent/74645568/


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