Yeah Spike Lee does come across that way a bit. People like the actors mentioned in this thread would be better spokes people imo, I wonder where Will Smiths stands in all of this since his wife is boycotting the Oscars too :think:

Beasts of No Nation was catching a lot of Oscar Heat for quite a while and Idris Elba was looking to be a shoe in for a nod and the actor who played Agu was tipped for a while too. Will Smith was tipped for Concussion and Micheal B Jordan picked up some momentum for Creed. There was a film called Tangerine which had a black transgender actress who was a contender for the actress category.

He's not black but Benicio Del Toro was also highly tipped to pick up a nod this year.

Yeah, I'd be more interested in hearing from Jada Pinkett-Smith than Spike Lee. And Will Smith has got to be one of the biggest box-office draws of any actor, black or white... so he would make an ideal spokesperson.

morgan freeman would be the ideal spokesperson, he has played the president and God so many time and so convincingly, most movie goers think he is the superior being

Also, who wouldn't stop to listen to that voice :flutter:

Nobody is saying that, people are outraged because there are black actors who deserved nods that have been passed over for no apparent reason for performances that aren't up to scratch (I love Bryan Cranston but Trumbo was sentimental trash).

They have to write parts for themselves a nobody else will, how is that a solution?

Everyone knows that the oscar winner is rarely the one who deserves it. Particularly in the less high profile awards. It's America lovies!

I found this poster from 1919 which shows that african americans have been represented as far back as then. I'm sure there is more information out there if i look into it.
http://legacyfilm.org.uk/communities...36_489x321.jpg

It's interesting they were better represented then than they are now for sure.

Except they couldn't sit in a theatre and watch the film with white people then.

So they should be grateful for small mercies?

of the top 50 richets actors alive, 10 are either black or indian....2 are south American and sacha baron cohen is he Arabian/jewish? several jewish actors there too , Gwyneth paltrow, sandler, Seinfeld, stiller, owen Wilson,downey junior etc
not many disabled people in the list

That's what you took from what I said? Wow...

Will Smith's wife Jada Pinkett Smith needs to understand that she was only invited on the plus one anyways because of her famous movie star husband otherwise she would not have even been invited in the first place cos she can't act for toffee.

Okay not heard of any of those, As I understand it the selection panel is made up of whites so they need to look at that for starters

They can ride public transport and use hospitals. What MORE DO THEY WANT?

One movie with an all black cast makes that era of film have better representation? erm no.

Yeah, because she's clearly miffed because she herself hasn't been nominated. That must be it.

Lol... true.

I liked Niamh's opinion earlier. I know Hollywood and casting are all about looks... but why are roles that don't require any sort of race at all always cast white? Superhero movies... all white. Why is colour such a major factor in determining the actor chosen. And yes, it's the same for Indian or Asian actors as well. Master of None... the tv show on Netflix actually has a great episode that deals with this issue.

Spike Lee actually picked up an honorary Oscar last year and was described as "a champion of independent film and an inspiration to young filmmakers". Guess he forgot.

It's like when the black lady was cast as Hermione and the whole backlash it got showed how there is still a way to go.

Hermione is essentially a race neutral character and the kicking off about it was ridiculous.

Exactly :clap1:

Why are you both using the same sig :suspect: have you joined a cult :omgno:

who?

and where is your avatar?

:suspect:

Mokka and Marsh, must dig out my old one I know you love it :hee:

dont bring that barn roof back again :fist:

Keep Josy away from any of the balconies in TiBB Towers is all I'm saying

lol... In my defense... I used the quote first....

But Marsh can be just like me... I'm ok with that

Same old crazy debate. :bored:

As much as I think Spike and Jada have a point I wish they'd dedicate a little more effort to others issues rather than any perceived slight they feel the academy has shown them.

Which other issues?

Why can't they fight for equality where there clearly isn't any?

Jada's also spoken about the gender gap when it comes to Hollywood pay too.

Welcome back Marsh :thumbs:

I agree there is an issue here but not too sure how a boycott can affect anything. If they want to be political then there are plenty of issues where their input wold be appreciate and possibly affect change. I dont think this boycott will change anything and I dont think if they boycott for the next five years it will change anything.

There's always going to be other issues. But this is one area they are involved with and are affected by so this is obviously where their efforts will go.

And I wish them well. :thumbs:

I said it on the first page and I will say it again... A boycott is a very reasonable and effective way to get people talking about the issue... and to bring a long standing issue into the awareness of the greater public. Especially when it is big stars who are going to get big press reporting it.

It is already working, because it has people like us having healthy debate on the issue... and if it is true that the public dollars dictate what movie gets made or not made based on where we spend our box office dollars... then the public need to be aware of the issue... not just the executives in the offices.

Hollywood execs have far more power that Jada and Spike. They wont do anything if they dont want to. This debate has been about since Halle Berry won her Oscar, a full 15 years ago, and made it public knowledge she was the first black woman to do so. Not much has changed since then.

cynical... nothing is ever going to change... so **** about it and don't bother...

that is exactly how things don't change. :smug:

Dont shoot the messenger. This attitude has been cultivated over many decades where nothing ever seems to change.